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I remember when I started my first proper career type job. I was productive for at least 7 hours out of an 8 hour day. I even worked in my own time as I didn't consider learning stuff to be work.
Now, six years later, a good day is probably doing two productive hours, a normal day is one, and a day when I can't be arsed involves reading about 1980s tv shows on wikipedia, arguing with strangers on the internet, and checking the job boards every five minutes in case an opportunity to get out of the office and back into the field pops up. Needless to say, requests for me to stay late are met with a blank stare followed by me putting on my jacket.
So, for how many people does this sound familiar? Btw, just in case you're wondering, this feels like a cba day.
Between all of that and planning my redundancy / departure within the next 10 months I have little time for this 'work' you speak of!
I work 12hr shifts, which I think are massively counterproductive. If I get to 8hrs still with a degree of focus it's a miracle, but usually it's closer to 6. The final day of the week on shift see's everyone demob happy and hardly anything get's done. How the powers can't see this and put us on something 'normal' I don't know. Only working 154 days a year is pretty cool though 😛
A friend's outlook:
"I don't even think about work when I'm in the office. They'll rightsize my headcount in a heartbeat the moment that they think it'll add a penny to next quarter's bottom line, so I'm getting my retaliation in preemptively. Curiously, the more I slack off, the more they over-value my skills."
Only working 154 days a year is pretty cool though
Where is that? I used to work a similar number of days when I was working offshore. The downside I was on 24 hours notice to go offshore for most of the year. Not conducive to a decent social life 🙂
I see the public sector workers have got in early today.. 😉
I mean, surely you can't be working in the private sector with those attitudes.
How good are smartphones now for just this? Saves the company seeing your endless browsing .... As I'm sat at my desk on this...
I see the public sector workers have got in early today..I mean, surely you can't be working in the private sector with those attitudes.
Private sector for me. Public sector doesn't pay enough to mess about on STW all day.
payback for 12-36 hour shifts(12 paid for) when im in the field......
This is why I don't employ anybody - I'd rather pay double for freelancers because I get 10 times the value
Its an odd system we have for employment in this country: Set a pay rate and a number of hours and regardless of whether you achieve anything with the day the employee can get paid and go home. If its important that they do achieve something you can pay them more per hour to stay late and do the work they should have done in the day. It incentivises slacking, the bigger the workplace / project the more this happens. I had a friend who worked fitting out the Millennium Dome - in the day he'd do his work, at night overtimers and night shifters would un-do his work - to make more overtime for themselves later.
If you work for yourself its the opposite deal- I don't get paid more or less if a do a job quickly or slowly, I just have to get it done. Get the job done quickly go home early. Work hard mon tues weds, finish early on thurs take friday off.
Big employers only seem to value having a bum on the seat between 9 and 5 and what they get in return for that is employees who do [i]just[/i] enough to not get sacked and no more. Its like employing soup.
BruceWee: you are me and I claim my £5
I start my new job on Monday. I can safely say I haven't done more than 10 hours work all year.
Looking forward to the challenge, but it could be a bit of a shock!
I was on secondment recently for fifteen months and worked in a role that was busy, took up all my time and occasionly was quite pressured. The office culture was supportive, inclusive and very positive. I hardly had any time to look at the internet and the days flew by.
I really enjoyed it but now having returned to my old role which is repetitive, dull and has no scope for learning any new skills at all I can feel myself slowly caring less and less about anything and I'm out the door at 4.50pm every day on the dot.
Not really sure what my point is other than erm, yes I do how you feel really. And I need to escape this job fast. But in my experience it seems some employers will get out of their staff what they put in, and if they can't be bothered putting much in then their staff will most likely not give a sh*t.
Don't see the point in idling about.... You're paid to do a job, do it.
Incidentally I work for the full time that i'm at work and very rarely get away on time. And then get moaned at by Johnny public for having the temerity to take a break in the middle of my shift. In the public sector.
Don't see the point in idling about.... You're paid to do a job, do it.
Dunno, my experience is if you do your job you just get more stuff piled on until you're overstretched whereas people who don't do their job get given less to do.
I decided to switch to the other side of the fence a while ago. Pays the same.
Typical of the shocking amount of waste in the private sector.
Get your lazy ass into gear and earn more money for the country so you can pay my pension.
BruceWee I work with lots of people with a similar attitude to yours. Often they manage upwards well and are valued by the bosses.
I myself go through different stages - when I am engaged I work really hard often far more than the core hours - I would say I do this 60% of the time.
The remainder I confess I slack off a bit - I still think my employer gets good VFM from me (and fails to recognise/acknowledge it).
I can see the slacking % increasing as I am getting fed up with being one of the few that actually works hard.
Dunno, my experience is if you do your job you just get more stuff piled on until you're overstretched whereas people who don't do their job get given less to do.
True dat. Until you do so little you get promoted to get you out of the way. Though it does depend on the size of company of course.