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Anyone into their classical music know if there is there a name for the combo of conductor / composer / performer together?
I suppose Maestro but it's not a specific term, and composer and performer and conductor is quite a rare one
Conductor and performer is usually leader, which is also used for the player sat at violin 1 in a big orchestra... fuzziness abounds in music when applying labels
Is it not a bit Schrödinger's cat, as you're either conducting or playing - but not both - in an orchestra?
No idea - but I did see at the weekend Apple have launched a specific app for Classical Music...
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/apple-music-classical/id1598433714
I think the OP means a name for the combination. for eg
Royal Phil playing Mozart under Previn.
Which I would call a performance.
Scratch that... I'd call it a concert
Do you mean all three roles in one person, or instances of the three people in the same performance?
I'd suggest 'polyrhythmath'.
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Is it not a bit Schrödinger’s cat, as you’re either conducting or playing – but not both – in an orchestra?
You can conduct from the lead instrument - it's not uncommon for a composer to "conduct" their own work from (say) the piano. Haydn was well known for it but it happens now as well.
Is there a name for the combo of conductor / composer / perform
Not really. An orchestra will have 2 or 3 conductors, same as they'll have "extra" musicians across a range of roles to account for illness, holiday, multiple performances etc and an orchestra will play a range of music from various composers. You get some orchestras and conductors who specialise in a couple of composers - Herbert von Karajan was well known for his Beethoven for example and even now the first CD digital recordings of Beethoven that HvK conducted are regarded as a benchmark.
Also, a lot of musicians, even in big orchestras are freelance and will take whatever work they can, it's not uncommon for someone to be off doing (eg) a West End musical run then back at their "home" orchestra.
My Dad played in the Royal Philharmonic but did loads of other work - cruise ships, films, West End and even a bit of fill in work at other orchestras.
You know the opera scene in Mission Impossible: Rogue Nation? My Dad is in that. Also, he is now utterly bored to tears of that opera, having played it for 6 solid weeks while Tom Cruise jumped around on rafters overhead.🤣
Is it not a bit Schrödinger’s cat, as you’re either conducting or playing – but not both – in an orchestra?
You can act and direct a film simultaneously.
(And that's not really a S's cat situation)
You can, and it's not fully.
But directing a film in real-time whilst acting in it? Nah. The stop-start nature of directing helps.
I can sit on the loo and read the paper if it helps.
We need a bit more clarification from @sillysilly
Do you mean the partnership/combination which includes all three elements or a person who writes, conducts and performs all at the same time?
My mate Jim has written a piece for our choir and he will be singing and conducting at the same time if that helps?
I think everyone is over-complicating the question! The answer seems to be “no” though.
not actually out for a couple of weeks yet! Would be interesting to see what (if any) term they use.but I did see at the weekend Apple have launched a specific app for Classical Music…
'first CD digital recordings of Beethoven that HvK conducted are regarded as a benchmark' and the 9th Symphony determined the diameter of the CD (12cm)
‘first CD digital recordings of Beethoven that HvK conducted are regarded as a benchmark’ and the 9th Symphony determined the diameter of the CD (12cm)
Not really, it determined the playing maximum playing time of a CD at 74 minutes 33 seconds, as that was the longest performance at that time, a 1951 recording by Wilhelm Furtwängler, and Sony insisted on 12cm for the disc diameter because Philips factory could only manage 11.5cm, which would give Sony an advantage. HvK insisted on the proposed new format be able to cope with handling the 9th Symphony.
An irony is that U-Matic digital recording tapes used for mastering could only manage 72 minutes, it took advances in technology before CD’s could handle a 74’33” recording.
https://www.classicfm.com/discover-music/why-is-a-cd-74-minutes/
I’d suggest ‘polyrhythmath’.
Or smart arse