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On holiday so bought a copy of classic bike. I haven't bought a motorbike mag for years.
So im totally dumbfounded at what piles of poop people are restoring at huge cost.
In the classifieds someone is trying to offload a c90 for a grand. Rd 400 nearly 4 grand. Has the world gone mental?
I can see a market for bikes that were lusted over at the time but no one on earth would spend £2500 on a gt 500 would they?


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:44 pm
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what price for an MZ175 ?


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:45 pm
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You can have a good deal on a 'modern classic' Zx7R I've got lying about 😉

The ones you've list are the 'cheap' end of the market too 😯


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:46 pm
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you joking??? mint Yamaha RD/LC 250/350's are going for hideous money, some nearing the £7500 mark 😯


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:48 pm
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Someone has actually restored an mz in my copy.
Its now really worth about £2.50


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:49 pm
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It's all down to what people lusted after in their 'yoof' and couldn't afford, although why anyone would pay good money for a C90 etc. is beyond me. I've even seen a Honda Dream on offer as a 'classic'!

Have you seen what Z1's, GT750's etc. go for and thats without going near 'proper' classics, where some of the prices are truly eye watering 😯

If I hold onto my RF900 long enough it will be worth a fortune 😆


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:52 pm
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tbh I first saw this about 10 years ago when I bought my Dad a copy of Classic Bike. He showed me some old BSA that'd been restored at vast cost, and said that the particular model was crap and lousy in his day (50's-60's), and he could only imagine that the person restoring it had either never ridden one or had their rose-tinted goggles on.

Also a chap at work restored a CD175!


 
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I owned a number of bikes, some better than others, Honda125,BSA B40, Triumph Saint, CD 175, yamaha 80 -- best thing was a two year ban--- cycling all the way since!


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 5:56 pm
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I think stuff like Z1's. GT750's etc etc ARE classics but I too am amazed by the silly money that sh1te like Z200's and stuff seems to be fetching.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:00 pm
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I'm with b r's dad, most British bikes were shite. The first bike I owned that was truly a pleasure to ride was my Suzuki GS750. Got a picture of it on my office wall and still miss it after 30 years


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:04 pm
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I've been offered £14K for my Jota 😯


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:09 pm
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although why anyone would pay good money for a C90 etc

C90's are still good, strong runabouts and a hoot to ride hence they hold their value. They have a bit of a cult following in parts of Ireland too. I have one of those and a bantam - also silly momey (as well as a proper-ish bike), both off e bay for £600 and both would appear to have been bargains now. You're right about people buying what was about in their youth also what they had as a first bike seems to be popular hence money for more mundane smaller bikes


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:13 pm
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Wonder how much this would fetch:
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Posted : 03/10/2012 6:15 pm
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Hmm, people want a classic, see the prices of the good stuff and end up restoring something they'd have turned their noses up at back in the day.

Having said that, I LIKE C90's, RD400's are ace and I'd really like a decent MZ.
Mate had a tuned TS250 back in the day with a sidecar made out of a shopping trolley 😀
Great fun off road after a few beers. Quite fancy an ETZ300 cafe racer, tbh.

If I ever see a restored Yam XS250, XS400 or XZ550 I will wee on it, on principle.
GT185's were cack when they were new and anyone who bought a 250 Superdream instead of a CB250RS should have been sectioned.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:15 pm
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A mate sold a FS1E that was seized solid about 4 years ago and got £1700 😯 he thought it was a wind up but the day the auction finished he got a call and next morning the buyer turns up all the way from Guildford with cash in his hand. He was a FS1E nut and was as pleased as punch.

There is something lovely about a coffin tank RD 250/400


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:20 pm
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There is something lovely about a coffin tank RD 250/400

I preferred the earlier A and B 250/350s
Early RD125s are rocking horse poo and fetch a bomb too


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:23 pm
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Check out the price of RD500's and RG500's! £5k gets a ropey one.

Wonder what my 749S will be worth in 20 years time?


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:30 pm
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If I ever see a restored Yam XS250, XS400 or XZ550 I will wee on it, on principle

Jesus the 550 is one ugly bike - had to google it to see what it was - looks a bit like the vx800 which is also pig ugly!


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:31 pm
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Wonder what my 749S will be worth in 20 years time?

nothing at all you should swap it for my ZX right now 😉


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:32 pm
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Flip side of that coin is that I hated X7's 😕 never really figured out why.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:35 pm
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I'm one of those who wishes he had never sold his 50 cc Gilera Enduro. Pre restriction model with pedals.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:38 pm
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My brother had one of those Gileras which my parents bought for him a year in advance to miss the restriction.
When my dad found out that my brother was riding it at 15 him and his mate carried it upstairs and put it in my bedroom so he couldn't ride it!
Of course this just meant that when our parents were out it would get a pint of petrol and get revved to bits with the windows open.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:44 pm
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If I ever see a restored Yam XS250, XS400 or XZ550 I will wee on it, on principle

Jesus the 550 is one ugly bike - had to google it to see what it was - looks a bit like the vx800 which is also pig ugly!

🙂
They were Yamaha's 'answer' to the CX500. I don't think they really understood the question, tbh.
I think they deliberately made it ugly so it could compete.

I'm a bit weird though, I quite like CX's having spent a few months riding one in the 80's.
It handled amazingly well compared to the various piles of crap I'd cobbled together before that.
The 'Custom' version was genuinely repulsive:
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Yamaha didn't really get the hang of 4 strokes for ages - still quite fancy an XJ650, they were lovely to ride, if a bit soft:
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Posted : 03/10/2012 6:49 pm
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I love the modern classics, we have a couple 70-80s Beemers, all amazing value compared to any thing else, ie newer and older. Great that they have cheap insurance, just shame they pay normal tax for something not much different from a full classic and only comes out on the odd weekend in summer.


 
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Yamaha didn't really get the hang of 4 strokes for ages

I dunno, the 70s XS500 wasn't a bad bike the XT500 was a riot


 
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If I ever see a restored Yam XS250, XS400 or XZ550 I will wee on it, on principle
I had an XS250 for 3 weeks, which was how long it took me to find someone stupid enough to buy it after the first ride!

Jota - please don't rub it in that I turned down an immaculate Jota for £3,500 12 years ago 😳


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:54 pm
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[i]There is something lovely about a coffin tank RD 250/400

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Yes, but you need the later E/F as they'd electronic ignition and over-pipe foot rest hangers. I had a blue one on 'L'plates 🙂


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:55 pm
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Worship the Maggot 😆


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:57 pm
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GT750's etc. go for

Silly money, shame my old man sold his Kettle in 1988 or something!

his current bike is worth a reasonable amount though, (excuse my old nail in the background... mind you if I had the Dakar version I wouldnt be for selling that).
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Posted : 03/10/2012 6:58 pm
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[url= http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/stocklist.html ]http://www.classicbikes.co.uk/stocklist.html[/url]
£20k for Kwak 900 😯


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:59 pm
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Yamaha didn't really get the hang of 4 strokes for ages

I dunno, the 70s XS500 wasn't a bad bike the XT500 was a riot

Yep, your right about the XT/SR. Lovely bikes.
XS650's were nice too.

Sorry, I really meant multi's, should have been more specific:
XS750/850's look nice, but I wouldn't really want one without a lot of spares and a big tool kit.

And I have to disagree about XS500's. Perhaps the one's I encountered had all been knackered by the 80's, but they seemed to go bang with frightening regularity.
Ugly too. 😀


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 6:59 pm
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Funnily enough, if I wasn't about to move house and had more time, I would be seriously tempted by [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/170917690147?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 ]This One on Fleabay[/url] as my GF is keen to do her CBT!


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:01 pm
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I wouldn't touch someone else's unfinished project [again] 🙂


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:04 pm
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^ True that 😉


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:05 pm
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I wish

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Posted : 03/10/2012 7:07 pm
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I'd be suspicious too but if it all goes wrong the spares have got to be worth the BIN price!


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:08 pm
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I'd be suspicious too but if it all goes wrong the spares have got to be worth the BIN price!

It's the sleep and sanity you'd lose between buying it and giving in a gibbering wreck that's the killer


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:10 pm
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CX500 Eurosport HAHA!
When I sold it I had to take it to the bloke.
I hadn't ridden it for a month or so having got a CB700n Nighthawk to replace it.
Christ the old CX was "hinged" in the middle just like they said. Really felt it after the bike change( & the 700 was no handler!!)


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 7:12 pm
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My Z900 is worth a few quid, although I am seriously tempted to sell it and buy a Speed Triple instead...


 
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And I have to disagree about XS500's. Perhaps the one's I encountered had all been knackered by the 80's, but they seemed to go bang with frightening regularity.
Ugly too.

Never owned one I don't think so can't really recall how reliable or otherwise they were, I certainly didn't find them too painful on the eye though and they rode reasonably as I recall.

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Posted : 03/10/2012 7:28 pm
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Posted this a few days back, but I think it's rather nice so worth another look:

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with bike rack:

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Posted : 03/10/2012 7:31 pm
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I had a KH 750 triple in purple, I wonder how much one of those are worth now?


 
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Yeah my cousin (god rest his soul) had a KH250 triple, after that a KH500 and a CB900R.. He'd love this thread.

I had a BSA C15 trials that was given to me in bits in a bucket and a friend of my mothers helped me rebuild it, bloody thing was heavy and noisy as hell but it had charm, wish I'd kept it now.
Also I'm an ex FS1E owner, long live DUJ 1L, it was the pre restricted version with pedals and a gold tank and It was soo sexy.

That Beemer ^ that is sexy.


 
Posted : 03/10/2012 8:53 pm
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I preferred the earlier A and B 250/350s
My LBS has a couple in at the moment. [url= http://durham-bikes.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=26&products_id=220 ]This One[/url] and also a gold one which he doesn't appear to advertise. He likes his old 2 strokes and I think some of them are priced to NOT sell 😉 Amazes me how small they look nowadays!


 
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Seeing that photo of the FS1-E reminded me of a BIKE article with a pic of a journo in a superman pose to get the claimed top speed - the 50kg strips of wind that bought the things had no trouble. Mention of one of those banzai Kwaka two-stroke triples reminded me of a girl that died on one and the limp her boyfriend still has, another nice girl died on the back of a Yam 500, her boyfried still limps too. My parents' neighbour has a Ribery scar (and a limp)to remind him that Honda 50 versus Jag head on is a loser.


 
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This is a gather round, have a beer and remember thread.

Puch 50 2 speed (slow and slower), MZ50, Z200, KH400 (ace) and I've still got my Guzzi lemon mk 1.

I've ridden loads of the bikes discussed here; stan Stephens tuned 350LC, CX500 (despatched on one) Katana, my fav would be either the exup bimota or the RG500.

And yep rode a Jota, sorry but I clearly lacked the presence(!) to make it handle gentle weave got interesting at 120!

I love two wheels 🙂


 
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Seeing that photo of the FS1-E reminded me of a BIKE article with a pic of a journo in a superman pose to get the claimed top speed
My Dad was clocked by the Police allegedly doing 53mph on mine (long steep hill, flat on tank, feet on rear pegs) leaving work one night. When he took off the helmet the copper got such a shock at seeing it was a 46 year old he let him off 😆


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 7:16 pm
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Genuine question. How much for this one?
An enjoyable project at the time but I just don't use it.
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Posted : 07/10/2012 7:26 pm
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I had a KH 750 triple in purple, I wonder how much one of those are worth now?

A what? 😉


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 7:36 pm
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It's a proven fact that KH750's are the main cause of the greenhouse effect (and any other form of air pollution)


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 7:46 pm
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The KH750 got banned from further importation, if IRC, which immediately put it's value up back in the day


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 9:22 pm
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There's a shop opened up near me that just sells Heskeths. God knows what one of those costs.


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 9:26 pm
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Wish I still had my old Honda 400/4 (ULD 491R where are you now?) and that I had finished my Benelli 654 project rather than selling it for a song! I think it eventually went to a guy who wanted to turn it into a low rider!


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 10:01 pm
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This is worth money.

Can't say I'd pay money for anything Japanese and use the word classic in the same breath.

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This on the other hand...


 
Posted : 07/10/2012 10:12 pm

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