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I know a fair few, I work with some farmers who have beef herds, so they can have a full time job and still manage small herds of 50-100.

My mates Sis married a dairy farmer, and that's the opposite end of the scale. 15 hour days, and can easily go a couple of years without a day off. They've got 3 kids too, I dunno how she manages it at times, or outs up with it.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 8:27 am
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Between 70%-90% of farm income is subsidies, even the Nfu aren’t really sure. Even British Leyland did better than that but we have to eat.

Some big lowland arable farms do very well out of this thank you and will have the cars and toys. most upland ones make no financial sense at all but how do you get out? Who do you sell too? What do you do instead? The most profitable crop any farmer will ever have is houses.

Currently subsidies are on the old EU Rules and it’s not really clear what’s coming next as the government are saying different things to different people. One vision is food production gets more commercial and becomes industrialized in a smaller space and the grants are spent spent managing what’s left for nature, recreation etc.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 9:30 am
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Maybe we could start paying a fair price to the producers, and less profit for the supermarkets that screw them down.

Just a thought


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 9:34 am
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The problem is the concept of 'a farmer' is so ridiculous as to be absurd. It's like lumping everyone who sits at a computer for work together.

I teach the son of a farmer with 10,000 ha of arable down in Suffolk. Twin prop private plane, Ferrari F40 in the garage, talk of buying an island in the med. I live next door to a farmer here in the Highlands who's kids qualify for free school meals. Within a two mile ride of me I could swing through one small immaculate farm where being a custodian of the land seems to be at the heart of everything they do and another that is a disgrace to the profession and are ostracised by the local farming community for their animal husbandry standards, their farm management, their polluting and their littering.

But to the urban keyboard warrior they are all just farmers.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 9:46 am
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I'm enjoying it, 3 episodes in. They do seem to have made things hard for themselves by getting a tiller and drill that's narrower than the tractor, it's as if they bought all the equipment for the little 60hp tractors they looked at, and then Clarkson went and spent his own dosh on the Lambo, which could probably pull stuff that about fifteen meters wide.

I'll look up Harrys Farm on YouTube, thanks for the recommendation. I've watched Tom Pemberton who is pretty good, and also over in the USA, Cole the Cornstar is good entertainment and demonstrates the American way of huge equipment, and eeking out every bit of productivity from the land by stripping anything resembling a hedge or tree (look at the earlier stuff, more lately he has been playing with his house and getting a bit clickbaity. I think the last one is Grassmen from Ireland.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 10:08 am
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Surely the Lambo is just product placement, I can't believe he's daft enough to have paid for it.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 10:35 am
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I think they put 40 or 60k down when the land manager listed his equipment costs. So must be secondhand.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 10:38 am
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I was also impressed in Clarkson clacking around in a 14year old Rangie – I didn’t see anything more blingy in the background anywhere.

He does have 3 though, although the L322 does seem to be his fave. He did explain on Twitter the Lambo tractor was cheaper than all the others of a similar age, and now knows why.

Enjoyed it in the end. Wasn't sure after the 1st ep but ended up sticking with it. Might even pay his farm shop a visit.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 11:12 am
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I hope they do a follow up series. I was a little surprised that they didn't do more or rewilding or regenerative agriculture as clarkson mentioned the issues with topsoil so early on


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 11:24 am
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How badly are farmers going to get screwed without their EU subsidies?

I've not read the details, but the locals in my parents village (it's not a village, it's 3 farms that built their houses back to back a few hundred yesrs ago for some company) have never seen so many ground nesting birds nests.

No one else has seen them, but they get their subsidies now based on how many nests there are so obviously they're there. 😉


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 12:55 pm
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Im enjoying it so far (4ep in) - although it's the usual Clarkson drama documentary. Entertaining, but complete drivel.

We live not to far from Clarkson farm, run a village shop, and can relate with the other 'characters' in the show. Having had previousa career in delivering new shops/ shopfitting/design and project management - the farm shop opening was a compete joke episode, but was great marketing at the time for the show which I seem to remember was supposed to come out last year.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 1:07 pm
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it’s as if they bought all the equipment for the little 60hp tractors they looked at, and then Clarkson went and spent his own dosh on the Lambo,

Perhaps, but the tractor was presented as having been bought first.

Surely the Lambo is just product placement, I can’t believe he’s daft enough to have paid for it.

Lamborghini Trattori is a completely seperate company to Lamborghini Automobili and owned by completely different people.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 1:12 pm
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I really enjoyed it but mostly because of the sheep.

They were the stars of the show, along with Kaleb.

Low point was the dig at the cyclist during the lockdown. Totally unnecessary.


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 9:46 pm
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Low point was the dig at the cyclist during the lockdown. Totally unnecessary.

The ironic thing is the cyclist is charlie quarterman, and it's literally his paid profession to train on the bike

( see Will's tweet https://twitter.com/WillTidball1066/status/1404489834383745025 )


 
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Low point was the dig at the cyclist during the lockdown. Totally unnecessary.

The ironic thing is the cyclist is charlie quarterman, and it’s literally his paid profession to train on the bike

Its literally his paid profession to make derogatory comements about cyclists 😉


 
Posted : 20/06/2021 10:30 pm
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Whoever made the tractor the price on the books is too low (if either figure above is near the mark) which adds support to the idea it's some kind of product placement deal.

Now and then Clarkson says something perceptive and useful. Somewhere around 1995 he described the rear suspension of the Frontera as rickshaw technology and he suppported remain. Apart from those two points I'm stuggling to think of anything.

The original Miura was made by the tractor company, that much I remember.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 7:27 am
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Finished it last night. Even the Clarkson-esque pondering was a little emotional after the books were revealed. I wonder whether the lifestyle will really persuade him to stay. The Bentley sequenced rather ruined a decent final chapter in my view.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 7:52 am
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Whoever made the tractor the price on the books is too low (if either figure above is near the mark)

He's repeated in a number of articles cost him £40k second hand. There are a few R8s around that price.

Wouldn't it be the depreciation over the lifetime of the asset anyway when working out profit? You wouldn't just sub the cost of the asset in one year? (Well, you might do it on the TV for dramatic effect.)

https://www.fwi.co.uk/machinery/whats-in-your-shed/whats-in-your-shed-visits-jeremy-clarksons-400ha-farm


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 9:17 am
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I enjoyed it, yes there are stage parts but the people that help him are the series. Kalib and Charlie make it.

Long and short of the series is it goes to show how hard it is to be a farmer, my brother has 200 acres half of which he has now turned over to re wilding and marsh as he gets paid for doing it and there are less hoops to jump through.

Sad fact of the matter is its going to get worse, Bullshit Boris is holding up the deal with Australia as the deal of the century when all they are after is a direct market with their lamb and beef, their PM even said so. We have a load of soft fruit farms around us and they are screwed at the moment because the migrant workers haven't come to pick the fruit. Local adult and kids not interested in the work.

The farming industry will go the same way as our fishing industry, Boris will shaft them then look them in they eye and say they are being helped.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 10:10 am
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The original Miura was made by the tractor company, that much I remember.

No, it wasn't.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Lamborghini

And as pointed out, a couple of times now, it was bought second hand.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 12:39 pm
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Ferruccio Lamborghini (Italian pronunciation: [ferˈruttʃo lamborˈɡiːni]; 28 April 1916 – 20 February 1993) was an Italian industrialist. In 1963, he created Automobili Lamborghini, a maker of high-end sports cars in Sant'Agata Bolognese.
Ferruccio Lamborghini

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Ferruccio Lamborghini
Born
28 April 1916
Cento, Ferrara, Emilia-Romagna, Italy
Died
20 February 1993 (aged 76)
Perugia, Perugia, Umbria, Italy
Alma mater
Istituto Fratelli Taddia
Occupation
Mechanic; winemaker; industrialist; entrepreneur
Title

Cavaliere del Lavoro
Commendatore Ordine al Merito della Repubblica Italiana

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Spouse(s)
1st wife: Clelia Monti (d. 1947), mother of Tonino
2nd wife: Anna Borgatti (divorced)
3rd wife: Maria Theresa Cane, mother of Patrizia
Children
2
Autograph of Ferruccio Lamborghini

Born to grape farmers in Renazzo, from the comune of Cento in the Emilia-Romagna region, his mechanical know-how led him to enter the business of tractor manufacturing in 1948, when he founded Lamborghini Trattori, which quickly became an important manufacturer of agricultural equipment in the midst of Italy's post-WWII economic boom. In 1959, he opened an oil burner factory, Lamborghini Bruciatori, which later entered the business of producing air conditioning equipment.

Lamborghini founded a fourth company, Lamborghini Oleodinamica in 1969 after creating Automobili Lamborghini in 1963. Lamborghini sold off many of his interests by the late 1970s and retired to an estate in Umbria, where he pursued winemaking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_Trattori

https://historyofyesterday.com/lamborghini-from-tractors-to-supercars-34c5ee9c8534

During this process, he realised that he could easily compete with Ferrari by using his tractor components in a supercar format leading to him potentially making triple the profits Ferrari was making.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 12:48 pm
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Ffs Ed read what you're actually posting, the car and tractor businesses were seperate companies! Just because he used tractor bits doesn't mean it was the same company.

And in any case, even if they had the same owner then they certainly don't now and haven't since 1973!


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 6:29 pm
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Some smaller and older Lambo tractors for sale

https://farm.autotrader.co.uk/search?postcode=SW1A1AA&category=TRACTORS&make=LAMBORGHINI


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 6:36 pm
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Squirrelking, read back. I din't even mention the cars in my first post, you jumped in assuming I had, I hadn't.

Then you get upset about me pointing out that it's the same guy with the same factories which in the early years of production of cars made parts for both.

For organisational reasons and to protect one activity from another in case of financial difficulties it's common to have multiple companies, fact is that in the early days the cars and tractors were products made by the same boss using resources within his businesses. I've only refered to a period and a model made when that was the case.

Other people can read you know. Why do you provoke these spats? Because provoke you do, by "correcting" me on thngs I haven't mentioned, accusing me of having my facts wrong when I haven't. You need to pay more attention to what I have written and less to what you imagine I've writen.

Incidentally if ever you've had a good look at a Miura under that famous skin (I have, my neighbour had one) the way the parts are made is much more tractor than even 60s state of the art.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 7:28 pm
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Awa and bile yer heid in a pan o yer ain pish.

You keep desperately trying to prove yourself right despite the fact it was pointed out before you even posted that it was second hand. I'm also struggling to see the relevance of a Lamborghini tractor product placement unless you were to believe they were the same company. Anyway, believe what you like.


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 7:44 pm
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Some smaller and older Lambo tractors for sale

And some Lambo R8s...

https://www.tractorpool.co.uk/used/a-Tractors/24/b-Tractors/95/c-Lamborghini/334/model/R8+270/


 
Posted : 21/06/2021 8:44 pm
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By pure chance, the camping and caravan club site MrsMC has booked us on is the one next to the Diddly Squat Farm Shop. There is an empty pitch and a hedge between our tent and his car park.

It's been interesting since we've been back on the site this afternoon. Steady stream of high end supercars, Imprezas etc and a fair number of chavved up Corsas going in to have their photo taken next to the sign. And then struggling to get out cos of the mud. Lots of over revving, turbo whine, exhaust popping and wheel spinning as they struggle. To the point that someone sounding like he was connected to the farm shop came out and gave a driver an absolute roasting for being a dick.

And a fair few spectators on the road come to check out the cars as well.

Be interesting to see if this makes series 2. And I was a big fan of the first series, thought he probably educated a lot of people about the reality of UK farming, albeit in his own special way.


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 4:45 pm
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Made it to the end of the auction in episode 1. What a knob. Nothing endearing about him at all.


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 4:54 pm
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What a knob.

Well… obviously!

Really enjoyed the series though.


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 5:16 pm
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What a knob.

Well… obviously!

Really enjoyed the series though.

My view as well


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 5:22 pm
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Mrs Binners appraisal (who works for an environmental charity):

“I really enjoyed that, while at the same time still absolutely hating him”

Personally I reckon Clarkson is a very very intelligent bloke and that’s exactly the reaction he’d gone for


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 6:00 pm
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Most of my family are in farming, Dairy x 2 Arable x 1 Organic Beef x 1 & Organic Veg x 1

Their view is he is a knob, but the program has possibly shown some its not all "an easy job"

My sister is the Organic farmer (she is a member on here) and I helped fix her 1976 Ford 4000 last week while I was staying for a week. She is awaiting a 1985 SAME Explorer 75 (same firm that makes the Lambo Tractors, SDF)

1 dairy farm is struggling with pretty much everything due to a legacy of prices and bad luck (mostly TB) the other is just about profitable and due to the investment in 8 robot milking machines is seeing a better life, he even managed to go rallying in Anglesea last week! He is also lucky his 2 sons 13 years old both help out a huge amount.

The arable farmer is doing well as he grows mostly high quality milling wheat as I work in flour milling I do give him a guide at what wheats we are looking for next year

The Organic beef farm was a dairy farm previously, but sold some land and buildings in an area where you can't get planning permission unless there are existing dwellings, kerching he could afford to do it.

Harrys farm is more of an education for those that want to progress on from Clarksons farm


 
Posted : 31/07/2021 7:02 pm
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It was pretty good.apart from when he tried to inject some of his 'controversial political opinions' into it.


 
Posted : 01/08/2021 7:20 am
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Clarkson plays a specific character...thats his USP and had made him extremely successful and the fact he's so polarising in terms of style means his strategy is working. Like most people playing a character we're not sure what he's really like, but that doesn't stop people judging by appearances. Ultimately he's done some stuff I like and some I've not, but I think this is one of his best things yet. I thoroughly enjoyed it but Harry's farm is more informative but Clarkson is coming at it from an entertainment angle and Harry from a more 'educational' and a straight 'day in the life of' format so both can be enjoyed side by side. They're neighbours anyway so you can bet your bottom dollar the Harry has been involved in the background somehow.

Not aware of any controversial political opinions he tried to push!


 
Posted : 01/08/2021 10:35 am
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Not aware of any controversial political opinions he tried to push!

There was a couple of Brexitty "Euro H&S" throw away lines but he knows his market well enough to not offend too many.

Clarkson is definitely a character he plays. If you read his books, amongst all the anti cycling bull shit there is a surprising amount of pro cycling talk about providing proper cycling infrastructure. We all focus on the buts that support our opinions/perceptions/bias.


 
Posted : 01/08/2021 5:59 pm
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Having avoided the Clarkson/Hammond/May stuff since they left Top Gear and to be honest getting bored of their routines in the last few seasons of TG, this first season was surprisingly quite watchable. Finished it tonight, typically binge watching two episodes per evening. Have to admit I nearly ditched it early on because it felt like watching TG Clarkson pretending to be a farmer, but it grew on me, because among his gaffs there were glimpses of what farmers go through and Clarkson's rapport with Caleb worked quite well.

The question is... Will the recently announced second series not feel stale?


 
Posted : 01/08/2021 10:13 pm
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Not aware of any controversial political opinions he tried to push!

There were a couple of anti-woke leftie type lines he pushed like "one avocado produces as much co2 as a year of driving a polo" which would be clear lies/jokes to most people, but there's plenty of viewers who will take that shit at face value and use it to justify their own opinion.

Overall I enjoyed it, although I would have loved to have watched it with my dad (who is a farmer) to get his live reaction.


 
Posted : 02/08/2021 9:36 am
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@n0b0dy0ftheg0at Depends what they do with it, doesn’t it?


 
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“one avocado produces as much co2 as a year of driving a polo”

Apparently two small packaged avocados have a carbon footprint of 846g. Official VW Polo emission figure is 120g/km for the smallest engine so a VW Polo will need to drive for 3.5km to have the same CO2 footprint as an avocado. OK not a years worth of driving but quite surprisingly high. So behind Clarkson's exageratted comment, which by-the-way- is actually supporting the environmentalists so hardly anti-woke, there is a real issue.


 
Posted : 02/08/2021 1:36 pm
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Apparently two small packaged avocados have a carbon footprint of 846g

Another reason to hate the nasty green abominations


 
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Love them!


 
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Thanks to being laid up with Covid, and after much deliberation, I’ve watched the latest series.

For those of you who understandably don’t want to watch it, don’t worry you haven’t missed anything. Nowhere near as good as the first series, and sadly he is more Clarkson in this one.


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 10:49 am
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Glad to hear that - loved the first series,  raised a lot of very good points under the Clarkson theatrics, but very conflicted if I should watch this new series, so I won't.


 
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I like the vibe of this one. It's less 'in your face' than the first series - which helped make the first one so great - but another load of episodes of that would be tiresome.

They've cleverly produced / directed it much like the old top gear - with (now) well established characters and still new/interesting 'plot lines' because there's still lots to explore in farming.

Great to have such a large platform continue to show how hard agriculture is and how hard our farmers work to keep us fed.

Big fan, personally


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 1:14 pm
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I watched several last night and enjoyed it, thought it was just as good as the first series.  Even my wife started watching and enjoying.


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 1:43 pm
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A captive audience here as I'm sofa bound at the moment, but I'm quite enjoying it 4 episodes in along with some genuine interest in some aspects of it.


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 5:27 pm
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More like Clarkson? Excellent. Cheers for the update. Will watch.


 
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@daveylad - don't do it!

It'll make you bad fettle - Clarkson and his farming mates say some bad things about Brexit!!!


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 9:20 pm
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5 episodes in enjoying it so far, as good as series 1 IMO.


 
Posted : 11/02/2023 9:46 pm
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Thoroughly enjoyable telly.
How he hasn’t had a heart attack I don’t know.


 
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Enjoying it also, only watched one so far.


 
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Still not convinced he's as thick as he makes out. Raising a few chuckles here though.

Gerald is still the best 😂


 
Posted : 13/02/2023 3:10 am
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Farming looks great with Clarkson & Amazon's millions behind it (see also Harry Metcalf - Harry's Farm) and a Charlie and Caleb by your side, but I doff my hat to all the normal vocational farmers out there.

The living fence episode was interesting and good for highlighting traditional skills.


 
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We enjoyed the second series too, As much as it is by and large scripted and set out like a million other shows and entertainment programmes, there are time where I believe Clarkson was genuinely moved / flabbergasted by the seemingly ridiculous structure of governing bodies and councils etc.

Irrespective of what you think of the guy, some of the restaurant application scenes and processes looked downright dodgy and ill conceived - on the part of the 'establishment'


 
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It will certainly have introduced the fact that yet another aspect of brexit is a total disaster to the cyclist hating community.

If starmer wants to keep the gammons happy and a sensible eu policy , mr clarkson needs to be his best friend.

When we now have to engage with our reality denying relatives we can casually mention every 5 minutes how the farmers are getting shafted .


 
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It's a great series.

Like him or not it's a far more honest look into farming than the usual fluffy country file take on it.


 
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I'm conflicted because I enjoyed the first series and would almost certainly enjoy the second series, but I don't really want to support his raging misogyny so I guess not watching it is my tiny tiny tiny protest.


 
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Clarkson and his place in the British psyche is deeply annoying as he can be a very thoughtful and empathetic communicator, the few history documentaries he did a decade or so ago were excellent and somewhere in the multiverse there's a reality where he left TG to focus on that and  is now a respected national treasure.

Sadly, the need to pay the bills means he's now very much trapped inside his own creation of a boorish pantomine oaf who's every proclamation is taken far too seriously by the 'Jezza 4 PM' crowd. Who worship the very ground he walks on because he gives them a permission structure for them to express their own lazy bigotry,

Sometimes I almost feel sorry for him, then I go for a ride with the kids and remember what he's said about cyclists over the years as idiots in Range Rovers squeeze past an 8 year old and a 10 year old rather than waiting a few seconds to pass safely..


 
Posted : 13/02/2023 10:57 am
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Watched it and enjoyed it. You really have to feel for him in his dealings with the council. There is a real feel of 'well if it's Clarkson we will reject it' without any thought for the reality of the situation and the benefits that his schemes could bring.
Having been on the wrong end of similar decisions from a different council because an influential councillor didn't like me or my family, regardless of the harm that rejection would cause to the community at large. I can tell you that the council meeting that was filmed was very true to life.
Local politics is full of NIMBYs and small grey men (and some women) on power trips.


 
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You really have to feel for him in his dealings with the council. There is a real feel of ‘well if it’s Clarkson we will reject it’ without any thought for the reality of the situation and the benefits that his schemes could bring.

No I don't have to feel sorry for him.
He's a **** of the first water.


 
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You really have to feel for him in his dealings with the council

Not really. Given his os screen persona he is probably deliberately provocative and decides its good for his PR to propose all sorts of things he doesnt actually want to do to appeal to his supporters


 
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Likewise a bit torn. I think he's a bellend of the highest order but the stuff he's doing to highlight the problems in farming is brilliant and the programme is very watchable to anyone familiar with farming or those who haven't a clue. I work work on our neighbours farm regularly and have contact with lots of farmers in the area - I've not heard one of them say a bad thing about the show yet - they all love it because it's telling folk how bloody hard it is to make farming work.


 
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Local politics is full of NIMBYs and small grey men (and some women) on power trips.

Who, ironically are the precise audience JC's antics are aimed at, overwhelmingly white, older, think owning a V8 Jaaaaaaag constitutes a personality and don't want any tractors/cyclists/poor people holding them up on their way home from the pub.


 
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I enjoyed it


 
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Likewise a bit torn. I think he’s a bellend of the highest order but the stuff he’s doing to highlight the problems in farming is brilliant and the programme is very watchable to anyone familiar with farming or those who haven’t a clue. I work work on our neighbours farm regularly and have contact with lots of farmers in the area – I’ve not heard one of them say a bad thing about the show yet – they all love it because it’s telling folk how bloody hard it is to make farming work.

Similar to my thoughts, although i haven't actually watched the series, just little bits here and there, will do sometime this year, but i do struggle to work out what the goal is for Clarkson, he has more money than he'd ever be able to spend, years of earning and then Amazon giving him buckets of the stuff, i don't think it's money, fame or adoration he's after, it really seems like a project he's doing that isn't directly about benefiting him, maybe a life's ambition, love or whatever, haven't a clue, but he does seem to be fighting hard (well shouting loud maybe) for little things.

As previous though, Clarkson is someone who tends to be reasonable in certain scenario's, such as Brexit, farming, etc, then he goes into his weird persona for other things, says stupid things to get attention and just isn't clever enough to play the long game in a lot of that, he's no Piers Morgan in that game, which probably is a good thing for him!


 
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it’s a far more honest look into farming than the usual fluffy country file take on it.

Countryfile makes no bones about the issues facing farmers across the UK, especially in the marginal areas like hill farmers. Adam has pointed out the issues he faces with rising costs on his farm, doing comparisons with a neighbouring farm who uses different methods to see if the results improve productivity with reduced costs, which was the case; however, changing established methods comes with costs of their own, as he was quite open about.

I haven’t watched Clarkson’s series, I’ve got more things I want to watch than I have time available for already.


 
Posted : 13/02/2023 8:10 pm
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Despite being aware of just how much of a knob Clarkson is I'm finding the series easily as enjoyable as the first and very informative. I certainly sounds like some little Hitler(s) in the local council has it in for him.


 
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Countryfile has to be one of BBC TV worst programmes, Adam definitely doesn't look like a hard up farmer and like the rest of the presenters very patronising and why do they still give old grey head John Craven a few shifts, if he was female he'd have been punted 25 or more years ago
Landward is a bit more down to earth no pun intended


 
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I think it's a great illustration that, just because you don't like somebody, or they often do/say things you don't agree with - you shouldn't automatically dismiss everything they do/say. Goes the other way too obviously.

I'm finding the grand tour increasingly unwatchable, and his piece on Megan was vile. But Clarkson's farm is excellent.

I do think the lambing shed was made with the express intention of turning it into a restaurant - but I also think that the local council/whoever are being utterly ridiculous in not allowing a car-park. I thought they would make more of the local farmer's cooperative needing the shop/restaurant - as that surely the best way to shut down nimbyism from the local residents.

I was left feeling that effective diversification is going to be the name of the game for British farming, but that's not just a magic word - you actually have to support farmers to do that.


 
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Watched it and enjoyed it. You really have to feel for him in his dealings with the council. There is a real feel of ‘well if it’s Clarkson we will reject it’ without any thought for the reality of the situation and the benefits that his schemes could bring.

There's a big bit of reap what you sew here- he's got previous for abusing loopholes (and boasting about it in the press), and of breaking promises/commitments made in the planning applications, so the rejection isn't just about the new application. Like Batfink says, they built the shed in 2020 with the pretty obvious intention of "converting" it and planning people hate that sort of shenanigans.


 
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I think it’s a great illustration that, just because you don’t like somebody, or they often do/say things you don’t agree with – you shouldn’t automatically dismiss everything they do/say.

Maybe not but I won't be watching the **** or supporting him by watching him. I can live with missing out on anything he does that is good.


 
Posted : 14/02/2023 6:54 am
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I think it’s a great illustration that, just because you don’t like somebody, or they often do/say things you don’t agree with

There's saying things I don't agree with and being a vile, misogynistic, racist person, the two are very different.


 
Posted : 14/02/2023 7:13 am
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Anything with Led Zeppelin at the end is fine by me...
I take it for what it is and reading too much into it, would be a mistake.

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Posted : 14/02/2023 12:40 pm
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Well just finished this season. Thoroughly enjoyed it, yeah it’s staged a bit there was even a joke about that. However, he’s still showing the issues with farming and mentions how he’s fortunate that he has large income outside farming. It may help as it’s such a nostalgia trip for me helping out in my grandparents farm, especially so soon after losing my gran. Had some amazing times on the farms, learning wildlife, high work ethics and enjoying life.


 
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I enjoyed this one too, despite him being a knob.

I think the amount of direct abuse deloved by Caleb helps.

Bit torn on the Council Nazis, torn between them being painted that way, and personal experience of both exactly that type of person, and in the Cotswolds just a few mile from Ckarkson Farm.


 
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I'm enjoying the  series so far (I'm up to about ep6)...

I also live and run a business (small village shop) in the Cotswolds and I have to say I'm split over the council's planning decisions. I agree with them that the cafe / restaurant should have been refused, although the buisness plan is sound the reasoning for it's location and planning app was not. Every village, town in the area is filled with sites that could be used for his venture into a restaurant. In fact it'll probably do far better in central Oxford than it would on Diddle Squat. He seems set on creating a mini Clarkson Land tourist destination rather tha actually creating the buisness he's says he wants.

However the following application refusal for the carpark was an obvious obstruction, but I'd guess based on his previous conduct with planning, and subsequent rule bending.<span style="font-size: 0.8rem;"> I find the way the the 'farm shop' is run increasingly frustrating, the principal is great, the execution is not - hence planning enforcement having to be involved.</span>

His buisness ethics are all over the place, saying one thing and doing another - specifically the way the shop is run and his attitude towards nature Vs farming.

If Diddly Squat aka Clarkson Land, was closer to where I live, I'd expect he'd have exactly the same reactions from the locals and planners.

The show it self is great though, but the man is still a knob.


 
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the irony is that given I cant see Clarkson being likely to support labour then the councillors he despises are probably the ones he votes for assuming he bothers to vote.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:44 pm
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I'd love to watch it, but being a small family farmer my disposable income won't stretch to an Amazon Prime subscription for the purtpose of watching 1 series. 😉


 
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the irony is that given I cant see Clarkson being likely to support labour then the councillors he despises are probably the ones he votes for assuming he bothers to vote.

I just looked up the councillors in that meeting, having watched the episode last night - the lady and gentlemen that was supportive are both lib-dem I think, and the rest that refused, that I could identify from there council mug shots, including chair of the meeting, are conservative.

The thing I found frustrating about series one was Stratton Parker's involvement as Land Management consultants - the fees for which a re huge, most farmers wouldn't need them or be able to afford them - so if you took their fees out of the equation, he'd have been 150k in profit in  year one.


 
Posted : 16/02/2023 12:55 pm
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Enjoyed Series 1 for what it was - 'Top Gear In the Country' - lots of fake cock-ups and staged content.

I have been a big fan of Clarkson for many years, but I must admit his latest behaviour has gone too far and he has almost become a parody of himself and his irreverence has tipped into the plain offensive. I was therefore quite reluctant to watch Series 2.

Nevertheless, I did over the last couple of evenings having read this thread.

Felt like an altogether more humble, genuine underdog story and I thought he came across well. Bit of a return to form where he reigned in his tendency to be controversial for the fun of it. If he picks his battles well and uses his fame to highlight idiot behaviour (the planning meeting scene was a classic gathering of 'people I wouldn't want to meet'), then I think he is in his groove.

Anybody battling burocracy, nimbyism and the total lack of any post-Brexit agricultural strategy by this sh1tshow of a government have my total support and sympathy.

Clearly the revenue from the show gives him the luxury of throwing money at problems and equipment that the average farmer simply could not afford to do, but it does highlight the issues facing the farming community in a relatable way that nobody else seems to be doing outside the industry itself.

That's it from me, I'm off to (accidentally) run over/shoot a few badgers!


 
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