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I've always thought my house (modern design bungalow) would look great clad in natural wood. Something like [url= http://www.russwood.co.uk/cladding/casestudy.php?ID=25 ]this[/url]. The house is currently half clad in painted timber and half rough rendered.

Has anyone taken on a project like this?

If so did you DIY and what kind of time and money was it?

Thanks!


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 6:10 pm
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First thing you need to look at are any Planning issues.


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 6:48 pm
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Sounds interesting will be interested to hear the experts opinion on this. If you do this I would have thought that it would be a opportunity to stick a load of insulation behind the cladding.


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 7:08 pm
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Definitely worth putting insulation behind it. You may qualify for energy efficiency company or green deal finance if adding insulation too.

Make sure you allow for a ventilated cavity behind the cladding.

Insulated render is another and possibly cheaper option, if you are looking for a new look.


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 7:13 pm
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Make sure you allow for a ventilated cavity behind the cladding.

Like cold roof type system?


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 7:19 pm
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Look up rainscreen construction.

Yes but not DIY.


 
Posted : 27/01/2013 9:18 pm
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Thanks - i did see some examples of insulated render which looked interesting.

The possibility of getting a grant sounds worth following up too!


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 1:40 pm
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acjim if you are looking at and insulated render system, you cannot DIY this if you want to get a green deal grant. MIt must be installed by a registered applicator.


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 1:45 pm
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DIY would be much cheaper, the green deal grants are just loans which aren't at a preferential rate.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenerliving/9830999/Be-wary-of-Green-Deal-warns-consumer-watchdog.html


 
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Just remember to lay your boards 'heart out'. This is so that as the boards season, the edges will naturally curl into the building. Be careful not to use too many fastenings as the seasoning process will shrink the boards slightly and can cause splitting if they are fastened too often/much.

Ideally you would use rift sawn i.e. growth rings going vertically through the board when viewing the end-grain. Specifying this is expensive as the tree cannot be sawn all that economically.

How do I know? I was one of the guy's who did this (using Western Red Cedar)

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Posted : 28/01/2013 6:26 pm
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I wouldn't use timber in this country
Try these [url= http://www.vivalda.co.uk/decorative-cladding.aspx ]Decorative cladding[/url]


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:15 pm
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IIRC Insulating your house is now permitted development, so planning issues are less if thats the aim (conservation area permitting)


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:20 pm
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The permiited development ruling is quite recent.It was only announced in December.


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:40 pm
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I have seen some excellent examples were aesthetically challenged 70's houses have been transformed with the use of timber cladding ( guess it only works well on detached houses)with styles from Scandinavia and New England. You could also take the opportunity to add insulation.

I built a full log house. The Garage was built with breeze blocks and clad with wood to match the main house ( no insulation) no problems so far about 5years old now. ( any excuse to show pictures 😆 )

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Posted : 28/01/2013 7:41 pm
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http://ww.natural-building.co.uk/pavatex_pavaclad_masonry_external_wall_insulation.htm

Been done lots, NBT have plenty of experience of this. We have friends with an old house externally insulated and timber clad.

Main issue is reveals, doors and roof overhang (of lack of) and the detailing can be really challenging unless you are re-roofing and new-windows.

I wouldn't use timber in this country

😆 😆 😆
Really? It is one of the oldest building materials in UK, and world. Proven over tens of thousands of houses and hundreds of years.
*walks off muttering*


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:42 pm
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Thermowood?


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:46 pm
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I wouldn't use timber in this country

Really? It is one of the oldest building materials in UK, and world. Proven over tens of thousands of houses and hundreds of years.
*walks off muttering*

I am also walking off muttering 😀


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 7:56 pm
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Slack - that is lovely, where is it?


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 8:47 pm
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Bear

Weald and Downland Open Air Museum - Singleton, West Sussex

The Gridshell. It's their workshop!

[url= http://www.wealddown.co.uk/ ]Linky[/url]


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 9:29 pm
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I'd heard it's really hard to get planning permission for wooden houses in the uk.

How hard is it to get wooden cladding for a crappy 60-70's house then?


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 9:35 pm
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I'd heard it's really hard to get planning permission for wooden houses in the uk.

As ever, depends on your location and planners priorities or preference.


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 9:37 pm
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Take a look at the TRADA website. They have a good book on cladding including lots of details around doors/windows and recommendation of fixings. Quite an expensive book but well worth it.


 
Posted : 28/01/2013 11:10 pm
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Righog - nice chalet!

Is that in the UK, or Europe?

Yeah, totally agree: wood is entirely suitable in the UK, so long as its the right species, or correctly treated.


 
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I wouldn't use timber in this country
Really? It is one of the oldest building materials in UK, and world. Proven over tens of thousands of houses and hundreds of years.
*walks off muttering*

I am also walking off muttering

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Building in wood Structurally yes,


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 6:56 am
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Wood framing and cladding is totally suitable in this country if the correct timber is used and detailed properly. If you think otherwise you clearly don't know what your talking about.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:11 am
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I would advise buying a copy of Trada's book on timber cladding. It's very informative & has all the relavent details in.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:18 am
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Righog - nice chalet!

Is that in the UK, or Europe?

Yeah, totally agree: wood is entirely suitable in the UK, so long as its the right species, or correctly treated.

Spongebob, it is in Northumberland.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:52 am
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I wouldn't use timber in this country

I bet you'd object to straw bale and cob as well!


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:57 am
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I wouldn't use timber in this country
I bet you'd object to straw bale and cob as well!

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Nope as its used internally with an exterior finish


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 9:07 am
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To be fair to the I wouldn't use timber in this country.."Brigade" 😀

The Banks and Buidling societies have exactly the same attitude, just try to get a mortgage for one !

I would love to build a straw bale house.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 9:08 am
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Lovely looking cladding that slackalice!


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 9:14 am
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The weather is much more extreme in New England but wood is fine there. Ditto Scandinavia!


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 11:29 am
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Given that properly specc'd and detailed Western Red Cedar has a 60 year service life as cladding, I'd say that was OK.

grant - cob tends to rely on a good hat and a good pair of boots - only usually has sand/lime applied in very exposed positions.

TRADA are your friend for all wood goodness.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 11:56 am
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Even something like UK grown sweet chestnut or larch has a cladding life of 15-25 years - as much as most render and more than paint.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 7:47 pm
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Just curious - is Swamp Cypress, T distichum, available in the UK as cladding?


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:01 pm
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Worth checking how well your insurance take the change to timber outer too. Premiums might go up somewhat.


 
Posted : 29/01/2013 8:08 pm
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Why?


 
Posted : 30/01/2013 7:48 pm

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