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...more specifically, Rockstone F105's, which seem to be provided under several names.

Fitted new to a car I've bought, not sure whether to "cope" with them until the need to be replaced or suck up £400's worth of replacement.

Thoughts, will I die?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:03 pm
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They're rubbery.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:04 pm
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RACIST!!!!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:06 pm
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http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Rockstone/Radial-F105.htm

It doesn't look great TBH you could well die. You can get decent budget tyres for OK money though. I've got 17 inch Maxxis MAV1 tyres on the wife's Honda and they are pretty good £60 each.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:14 pm
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Thats the worst one I found, then when you read this its not so bad:

http://www.tyretest.com/summer-tyre-reviews/rockstone/f105/


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 5:29 pm
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What other cost cutting routes has the previous owner made? Summer tyres should be cheap at the moment if you get them from somewhere that imports from the continent.

Or if the alloys are easy to get hold of cheap then get a set of winters for now and stick the cheap rubbish on eBay and get some wheels and summer tyres in spring.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 6:48 pm
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Check the brake pads and make sure they don't say Superstar....


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 6:51 pm
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Kryton...I know there's a serious side to this, but I was genuinely laughing when I read those tyre reviews that jools posted 🙂

You've picked some good weather to test them out!


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:03 pm
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Depends on how you value your life at £400. Have a look at Tyreleader for tyres. Just bought some from there, but you will have to factor finding a tyre shop to fit them locally.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:36 pm
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what size do you need, and do you know anyone who would fit tyres for you.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:42 pm
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Tires dont kill , the nut that holds the wheel kills.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 9:56 pm
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Kryton...I know there's a serious side to this, but I was genuinely laughing when I read those tyre reviews that jools posted

You've picked some good weather to test them out!

Mirth at my situation or the credibility of the comments?


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:11 pm
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I once (an once only) fitted budgets to the van. Event was the make and subsequently every bastard journey was an "event"! I complained they were dangerous and unbelievably hot my money back without and hassle about a week/100 miles later.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:25 pm
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Wouldn't he fact that Blackcircles use them provide any indication of confidence - I urge you to read the link I posted firs one more balanced reviews.

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No I guess not.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 10:31 pm
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From reading those reviews if it was my shiny new car and I wanted to stay on the road in the winter I would ebay the shite ones fitted and fit some premium rubber!
When I bought my last car I made a point of telling them that I wanted a full set of new tyres so as not to confuse the 4x4 system and that as the rubber was the thing that keeps you on the road I wanted a premium brand with top speed rating...to be fair when I turned up to collect the car it had a full set of Bridgestones ( one of the two makes recommended for the car) and the salesman said he nearly fitted some cheap ones but remembered what I had said and knew I would reject the car.
Even the wife's 2002 Beetle has a set of Goodyear Grip thingy tyres which replaced the horrendously noisy Klebers.


 
Posted : 14/01/2015 11:37 pm
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Is it a sub brand of a big company? I.e Fulda is owned by a biggie I think.

What size tyre is yours on?


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 7:03 am
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Mirth at my situation or the credibility of the comments?

The comments and the fact that so many people seem to have found themselves similarly frustrated by the tyres.

Might be worth sticking them on ebay as suggsey suggests. Someone will buy them.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 7:30 am
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Do you guys fit budget tyres to your mountain bikes?


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 7:32 am
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Most major manufacterers have at least one sub brand that the older but still perfectly good tyre designs were sold under.
BITD India Tyres were older Dunlops, IIRC Courier were Firestone, there were others but the names escape me, even Esso had their own branded tyres, when their 'service stations' sold more motoring items than food items!


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 7:48 am
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"Do you guys fit budget tyres to your mountain bikes?"

my town bike does .....

my car is the equivalent of a town bike.....


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:23 am
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Your car drives at speed though over all conditions throughout the year. Your town bike bimbles.


 
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You don't necessarily need to spend £400 quid. There are decent tyres out there for 60 or 70 quid a corner. If they're really bothering you and you don't want to spend much get some premium branded part worns. You should be able to get 4 with 6 to 7mm of tread left for under £200.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:42 am
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Kumho?


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:44 am
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I have no choice but to test them as I'm on my way to collect the car now and then I have a two hour drive back - during which I'll take it easy. I'll stop at a petrol station and check the pressures as IME tyre companies are notorious for sticking 30psi in everything without thought.

I can't remember - do you have to wait for new tyres to "deglaze" or wear in?


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:49 am
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Years ago I bought a MX5 and the main dealer fitted 4 new SA budget tyres as part of their PDI. It was fine until you went around any greasy corners etc 😯


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:53 am
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no feeling the corner from me im afraid - its a public road not a race track.

my two forays into branded tires in the way of pirelli p6000s and hankook optimas s were that they did not give any more perceivable grip at the speeds i drive - but wore out much faster. YMMV

done alsorts of tires from cheapos - got 40 quid a corner things ive never head of from franks fast fit in dundee atm - van weight and speed rated - and have done 30000 miles now - still got 4.5mm at last check and i certainly havnt been seeking any ditches. - ive had part worns from the persely on my fiesta for 15 quid a corner - ive had aggressive remoulds on my 4x4s - as they tend to get damage from off roading.

the only blow out ive ever had was from a toyo open country (again a branded tire no less) on the front of my land rover - at 45mph on a country road .....

but if you get a warm fuzzy feeling from your tires starting to slip as you hit the limits of grip in corners then you probably want to get some all singing all dancing mega grip XLs and continue as you were at speed - while remembering that regardless of your tire if your driving on the edge on a public road where someones spilt some fuel perhaps.

and yes kryton good call on the tire pressures - IME this is of more importance than the type of rubber fitted , amaizes me how many folk will spend 150 quid a corner on tires and then not touch them till the next mot - dont know about you but even at my bimbling i can feel the difference in the drive from a soft tire.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:53 am
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pirelli p6000 are known ditchfinders!


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 8:54 am
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but they are big branded .... surely by STW logic that makes them betterer than rockstones.......

they might be ditchfindery on your performance car ... on my 1.6 hyundai lantra they came as OEM and seemed to cope fine with "driving"


 
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Kumho?

+1 for Kumho.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 9:14 am
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but they are big branded .... surely by STW logic that makes them betterer than rockstones

Usually however I've heard/read etc soo much on those particular tyres that I wouldn't touch em!

On a cheap car- its a balance of economics though. On a fair chunk of money I'd spend slightly more on bits and bobs.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 9:16 am
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I can't remember - do you have to wait for new tyres to "deglaze" or wear in?

Yeah, they can take a while before they start behaving themselves.
I had a pair of Vredesteins years ago that took about 400 miles before they 'bedded in' - up to that point they were all over the place. I think it's mainly the mould release agent, although I haven't noticed it too much for a few years.
My car came with Formula F2000's fitted to the front after pointing out to the previous owner that the fronts were almost bald and he could either knock £150 off the price of the car or replace them. He put the cheapest tyres he could get on - I found them online for £36/tyre and they were horrendous in the wet. In the dry they weren't too bad, but the slightest bit of moisture on the road and all bets were off. Exits of a roundabout in 3rd with gentle acceleration and the traction control light would be on with the front end of the car wandering all over the place. I got rid of them.

If you are looking to replace and now somewhere that will fit supplied tyres - have a look on Camskill.
Kumho are a decent 'budget' tyre (as already mentioned) and I've been using Matador for a few years now. I think they are owned by Continental and the MP46 tyre I generally buy is quiet, predictable and seems to last well. They are only about £52 for a 205/45/16.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 9:23 am
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Well, after I'd left the forecourt I took them from 1.9 bar to the more appropriate 2.7 and 2.5 respectively at the BP station down the road.

No issues at all over 120 miles. It was raining on the coast and I gave it a little nudge on a wet empty roundabout, and a hard boost off a give way - no spinning or traction control kicking in.

As Trail Rat says, seems not to be an issue for "driving" perhaps just being teenage and emergency stops is so,etching to be wary of.


 
Posted : 15/01/2015 6:39 pm

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