[Closed] Chef's knives?

Stuff Global - one word, Kasumi

Pricey yes but absolutely the best knives I have used...

Cheers

Danny B

OK, more accurately the rivets in the handle have started to come out

Global - pah
Kasumi - pah

What you want is a Cut Brooklyn or a Blok.

Going to get myself a Blok before Christmas, nearly as exciting as a new bike.

Going to get myself a Blok before Christmas, nearly as exciting as a new bike.

Better nip on 2-3 months waiting list.......for a knife! 😯

Head yourself down to a decent Chinese supermarket, get something very good for 10% of global and similar

Im rocking Sai Knives for demo's and cookery schools and Wusthof for the kitchen ,remember if a Wusthof breaks in any way they will replace it ,even a 20 year old will get replaced for free .

Wusthof +1.

Although, in true STW style, my knives are made by blind, virgin nuns, who live in caves in Calabria. They make the knives while clad only in a crown of thorns and smeared in olive oil, obviously.

'Rocking'' a knife?

Try EdenWebshop.I bought their own branded Eden Chefs Damast steel knife and it's pretty damn sharp and has kept it's edge for a couple of years now with regular care.

The only down side is it's pretty brittle steel and it's quite thin and exceedingly sharp I'm constantly worried about chipping the blade.

http://www.procook.co.uk/shop/knives-scissors/santoku-japanese-knives?optm_key=new&gclid=CInjyIPy_bkCFSTKtAodxXEA0g
Set of four santoku knives for £14?
http://www.procook.co.uk/product/procook-japanese-knife-set-4-piece

Shun or global can't go wrong

I bought one of these at the Great Yorky Show. 4.5" utility knife, about £30, It's as sharp as a really sharp thing, I've used it loads & I still haven't sharpened it cos I don't need to yet...

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I've got a Global, but I wouldn't buy another. I didn't realise that the blade is just welded to the handle, so it's possible to snap the blade if pressing on it, like smashing garlic. I'd much rather have a full tang, or stick tang, in the case of those procook santoku knives.
I'm probably going to get that set of four when they're back in stock; can't see how you can go wrong for £14.

http://www.zwilling.co.uk/en/artikeldetails/items/31118-181-0.html

[url= http://blok-knives.co.uk ]These things are beautiful![/url]

if you want a knife to use pop to the shop of dreams TK MAX
they sell zwilling seconds at around £14

Another vote for Wusthoff plus add Sabatier

I've handled some Zwilling knives and they don't feel as highly finished as others. The have quite square edges on to of the blade which I don't like.

I have had my 2 Sabatier knives for 5 years, and they are used constantly. I haven't had to sharpen them yet.

if you want a knife to use pop to the shop of dreams TK MAX
they sell zwilling seconds at around £14

My brother did a course at a college and was issued with a set of "The Smithfield" knives. Cheap looking and plastic handles but by Neptune's bollocks are they sharp and they hold their edge magnificently. He gave them to me and I use them regularly and they are an absolute joy.

If I was to go looking for replacements then China Town would probably beckon. Or TK Maxx. 8)

Tojiro DP range are very good introduction into japanese knive, inexpensive compared to others too.

For all-round 'everyday' cook's knives, I'm currently a fan of Porsche, Robert Welch and Aldi knives. Got Global (and a stone) among too many others but don't rate them.

For slightly left-field, have a look at Marttiini from Finland.

http://www.macknife.com/kitchen/home.html

I've tried most brands over the years but still end up going back to Wusthof, the amount of lads that have worked for me that want the same as the chef Wusthof should be given me mine for free the amount of money I've helped them to make.

plus 1 for Robert Welch. The 25cm cooks knife is great for those "that's not a knife THIS is a knife" moments

I've had a Gustav Emil Ern 8" Chefs knife for about 20 years, its used for everything, it gets a quick rub on a steel now and then and its been superb. I was nearly in tears once when I dropped it and the very end 1mm of the tip broke off.
I'd defo buy another, but they do cost a wee bit.

TK Max ...

Or

[url= http://www.japanesechefsknife.com/TenmiJyurakuSeries.html#AogamiSuper ]Order from here if you really want a good knife[/url]

Kin Knives for me. Arguably a bit fragile for some folk. But I'm a delicate flower and they are beautiful things.

To be honest, I'd just go to a shop and see which you prefer. They seem to be such subjective things.

Take Global, some seem to love the way the they feel. I think theyre a pile of poo.

Oh and plus 1 for Zwillings Henckels, If I wasnt prepared to sell largely spare body organs to have a lovely lovely knife. Zwilling is what I'd get.

hmmm knifey knives, lovely

I use a set of Victoria nox knifes, they feel and are amazing, however there not the new breed of Victoria nox,they've been handed down through two generations and are from the 50's.

new ones arn't as nice unfortunately

Someone on here recommended Victorinox when i asked, got one, and to be fair it is a very nice knife and not that badly priced.

Before deciding which knife (Continental or Japanese) you should consider your style of cutting as well.

Continental knive are made of thick hard steel 55-57 hrc and hold edge at around 20* angle.
They are durable, don't chip as easy and are relatively easy to sharpen up.

Japanese knive use even harder and thinner steel at 60-63 hrc and hold edge from 17*-13* angle.
VG10 steel is relatively maintenance free, no need to worry when puting it into dishwasher etc. At 60hrc its good enough to cut thin tomato slices as well as crushing bones without fear of breaking blade.

If you were knife afficionado you could venture into damascus carbon steel blades 62+hrc and those extreme 13* angle edge, but those are more boutique and require some maintenance and care after every wash.

To own japanese knife, one needs to learn to work/sharpen with wetstone to get most out of exquisite blades. So Continental knive are easier to live with in that respect (handle knife sharpeners are handy and easy to use).

There is no such a thing of knife staying sharp for ever, but Japs do hold their edge better.

As chef's knife I personally wouldn't go shorter than 21cm but would couple it with 12cm pairing knife. You also need to consider your kitchen size before opting for 27cm blades, they are extremely Pro and usefull but man, you've got to be serious to use them (chopping zombies in half more like).

So here you are, HTH and the reason Tojiro DP were recommended for VFM.

http://nipponkitchen.com/acatalog/Tojiro_DP_Range.html

and review
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/856342/

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/food-for-men/best-kitchen-knives-under-100

Robert Welch. Don't cost the earth and used by the best catering school in he country (Ashburton). Good enough for them, good enough for me.

Makro, if you have a card or know someone with a card do Henckels knives. Reasonable cost too.

I've got a couple of Wusthoff Classic Ikons that seem to do the job alright.

Leaning towards the Wüsthof, I think. Will have to go and find somewhere I can hold one.

I wanted a global but when i tried one i really didn't like how they felt. Bought Henckels Twin Fin instead, could not be more pleased with them. Crazy sharp, thin, great handle and well balanced. Will buy more when i can afford...

What charliemuingus said - chinese supermarket and get something like

£4.50
[url= http://www.tradewindsorientalshop.co.uk/acatalog/Kiwi-Brand-Knife.html#.UlHY0NJwpMM ]small cleaver[/url]

I use it for everything but chopping through bone (different cleaver for that) - even peal fruit with it.

Also get youself a diamond stone [url= http://www.screwfix.com/p/forge-steel-diamond-sharpening-pad-3-x1-3-pc/36996 ]stone[/url]. Super easy to use. If you sharpen your cleaver every week you will need a new cleaver in about 5 years.

I also own a few of the German soliegen knives above and some pressed knives but the cleaver is the most used by far.

Had a look in TK Maxx in Bath, and they had a couple of Santoku knives for £12.99, so I'll get a set of those Procook knives for £14.99. I don't have a Chinese warehouse too local to me to go to.
Did pick up a nice little paring knife with riveted handle for £2.99, though. 😀
Had a quick Google, and there's a Chinese warehouse in Bristol; their small cleaver like Earl's is £34.50... 😯

It doesn't matter

I bought my mum a henckel japanese chopping knife. She much prefers her cleaver she got for £2 from a local discount shop. I agree.

Anther important this is how to store them. they go blunt very easily if you just chuck them in a draw.

They cost a bit but the Shun Santoku is what I would recommend. You will also need a wetstone for occasional sharpening but it's actually easier than you might think.

I wonder if any any failed chefs would've reached the top if only they had expensive knives.

Nice things are nice to have shocker

Expensive and nice are not synonyms.

Here's three of my Global knives. Replaced by JL, with a bit of coercion, under Globals now discontinued lifetime warranty

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vinnyeh those been in the dishwasher?

my Global chefs knife is 13 years old. 5 of those years used 10 hours a day in a kitchen, the remaining 8 years used daily. OK, the tip has snapped off (trying to undo a screw) and it takes a bit of work to get an edge these days, but it's served me very well indeed.