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...that'll buff right out.
That will be some insurance claim...
Guy shouldn't of pulled out in fairness...
jeez, not doing 30mph anyway.....
It sounds like he's doing 100mph, but looks like it's a lot slower.....
Was surprised not to see an Addison Lee sticker on the other car.
Lambo in sounds load shocker.It sounds like he's doing 100mph, but looks like it's a lot slower.....
why was anybody filming at that time?
saw a gold ferrari in london at the weekend, in fact around knightsbridge ferraris were common as muck. seriously saw more of them than ford escorts.
what iainc said - defo not 30mph!! I wonder if he tried to put a claim in or just take it out of his pocket money..
Was surprised not to see an Addison Lee sticker on the other car.
I can't see the vid at work, but totally understand this statement.
That brings back memories - I saw a Countach (could have been a different model, not sure) hammering down the outside lane on Blackburn ring road about 20-odd years ago. The lane was coned off so he raced a Transit for the space in the inside lane. The Transit won and the front of the Lambo shattered into what seemed like a thousand pieces. The Transit didn't stop.
The fault of the Mazda not the Lamborghini. 🙄
Lamborghini has the right of way.
The Lamborghini may be loud but definitely not fast there.
I wonder what's the Mazda insurance premium will be from now on.
Insurance company: "And what colour is the car, sir?"
Lambo man: "Invisibility Cloak Black."
Ins co: "Claim denied."
A guy at work showed that earlier, we were wondering how it happened and why someone was filming it. The only logical reason we came up with was that the Lambo had been doing some kind of test launch type start and the Mazda had thought it had stopped so could go then the Lambo flies up and smashes into it.
ourmaninthenorth - MemberInsurance company: "And what colour is the car, sir?"
Lambo man: "Invisibility Cloak Black."
Ins co: "Claim denied."
Now imagine cyclist was involved.
Oh dear, never mind. Poser driving impractical, flash car too fast in city gets comeuppance. I'm so sad.
No darker or less visible than the Mazda really, why would colour be an issue? The insurance company take all theses factors into consideration when quoting a price. I don't think he was doing more than 30mph, Mazda should have edged out into road if the view was obscured by parked cars. Lamborghini driver had nowhere to go.
Mazda 100% at fault.
It would have been being filmed by one of these Vlog kids that flock to London to see the rich kids driving around in their latest supercar. They make some cash out of it if it gets enough youtube hits...
[quote=hammyuk ]Guy shouldn't of pulled out in fairness...
have
Do people seriously reckon that crash was the result of a car doing <30mph?
No darker or less visible than the Mazda really, why would colour be an issue?
I was taking the piss.
I had similar 6 years ago.
I edged out between two parked transit vans that blocked the view.
Motorbike was doing well over speed limit, could not avoid and ploughed into front wheel and door of our car.
100% my fault.
Didn't stop the off duty copper giving the rider some grief for his speed and overtaking while wheeling...while rider was still on ground writhing in pain.
Do people seriously reckon that crash was the result of a car doing <30mph?
No, I reckon it was a result of poor observation.
I'm not convinced the Lambo was going as fast as some seem to think, you know. It's very difficult to judge from the POV of the video-er, but watch it again with the sound off. Probably too fast for the conditions (built-up area, parked cars etc) but I wouldn't like to put any serious money on him being over the speed limit based on that video.
Baseball cap on backwards in any car not necessary.
Observations:
Mazda driver's fault. I've done too like matt_outandabout. Deeply irritating and annoying, but.
Baseball caps back to front are just wrong anytime anywhere.
Isn't that Veyron a few posts up about the ugliest thing on the road?
Round Park Lane you see proper cars:
That is a lovely Corolla.
Veyron.. Ugly? Go sit in the corner u naughty boy.
Anything made by Ssyang Yong is by far the most hideous thing on the road..
Apologies man in the north.. I was just scanning the thread when I replied.
Isn't that Veyron a few posts up about the ugliest thing on the road?
you missed the thread on Nissan Jukes then?
Mazda drivers fault, his insurance is gonna sting next year. If (pretty big if) the lambo was stopped when mazda started to pull out and was doing some launch control bobbins wonder if insurance companies will have fun with that.
And yes veyrons are gopping but ugliest thing on road? The Porsche Allegro is just as bad and there's worse.
Lambo driven by hat-****er. Damages awarded to OAP in Mazda.
Next case...
Knowing that part of the world rather well, I very much suspect the Lambo wasn't obeying the speed limit there.
Heading North out of the Square is a favourite run for a certain breed of fast car owner in London. Used to turn South out of Cadogan Gate as a shortcut down the back pretty often. Regularly surprised by something coming North bound at speed. Always a fast/flash car, and always a certain type of driver.....
No attempt by the Lambo driver to brake until after impact. The Mazda is creeping out, and I can't believe either was completely unsighted.
I suspect that neither of them had much appreciation of just how wide that car is. Lambo thought he/she could nip through, Mazda thought he'd left enough room for the Lambo to get past.
Don't the Germans have a word for this kind of thing?
Isn't that Veyron a few posts up about the ugliest thing on the road?
It looks a bit Type 6 to me.
No mention of the blondie that got out the Lambo yet? Lovely arse...
Ouch.
This video was with it.
Trying o think of the words to describe it... Bellends is the best I can come up with.
not making judgement about who was right or wrong - i was however impressed by the lambo drivers ability to avoid further contact / damage.
On the other hand, making a judgement 🙂 sounds like the Lambo had some proper revs on the go, so even if he wasn't doing silly speeds I'm still gonna guess that he was dicking around. I was also wondering if it could be a rental, too calm a reaction though.
Mostly, guilty due to previously mentioned cap wearing douche-baggery.
/case
Don't the Germans have a word for this kind of thing?
Shadenfreude?
From the Daily Mail article on this:
"This car is known in London but I had never seen it before.
'From YouTube videos he enjoys to drive it fast and rev the engine to create exhaust flames."
"Minutes before the smash, the car was filmed being driven aggressively by its owner."
Don't the Germans have a word for this kind of thing?
Eichel? (das ist Deutsch für das Ende einer Glocke)
It doesn't look like the Lambo was speeding there.
The engine growl is typical Italian sports car.
The Mazda was clearly at fault.
I'm loving some of the comments on this thread along the lines of he had a Lamorghini - serves the guy right. If it as some old biddy in a Clio the comments would be completely different.
Listen to the very very first moment of the video, it's not the note of a car (Italian sports car or not) bumbling along a city street
Serves the fanny right!!
TBF they were saying "he was wearing a baseball cap backwards serves the guy right" - and they have a point.I'm loving some of the comments on this thread along the lines of he had a Lamorghini - serves the guy right
oh well, as you wereServes the fanny right!!
do we think the Maserati GT behind him was just a coincidence?
The engine growl is typical Italian sports car.
well it wasn't exactly idling before it came into view was it, sounds like he slowed down significantly before crashing, so must have been going way too fast before.
doesn't quite cover it, enormous giganto bell ends probably still doesn't quite cover it. What's with the crowd following them? Can't believe I managed to watch a whole 2 mins, "I'm shmee make sure you subscribe" no ta, I can see driver ****tery every time I ride to work, don't need a YouTube channel dedicated to it*.Trying o think of the words to describe it... Bellends is the best I can come up with
Aaaaaand relax
🙂
*plus I can hear shit like this every time there is a big wedding on locally and all the pimple faced youths related to the happy couple hire a supercar for the weekend.
So a central London street with cars parked on both sides and the Mazda with its wheels virtually on the central line, lambo brakes can't stop the car that should be doing 25 mph ish to avoid the Mazda? Shared fault claim
No share fault claim there. Mazda at fault. The Lambor has the right of way. Fact! You cannot simply creep/cut into the main lane just because you are driving slowly. Doing so means the ones on main lane need to slow down for you which prevent the smooth flowing of the traffic.
Try riding your bike and the car slowly creep in front of you then see if you get piss off with the driver's action. You can argue that the driver might not see you on your bike but this is a Lambor that is wide and loud.
My driving instructor used to explain to me about this blind spot all the time because I had the habit of creeping into main lane like driving in the far east. i.e. who dares win, where we simply stick our car out to dare you if you are driving slowly.
As for revving the engine loudly is there a law against loud car engine? Are the bureaucrats going into full spin now? Even if you don't like the loud engine you have to live with it.
🙄
sounds like he slowed down significantly before crashing, so must have been going way too fast before
This. You can clearly hear the revs dropping before the impact.
pdw - Membersounds like he slowed down significantly before crashing, so must have been going way too fast before
This. You can clearly hear the revs dropping before the impact.
No way you can see a creeping car into main lane. Majority of us do not have the ability to response that quickly even if creeping car is slow. I have car t-bone my small car in the far east where the driver clearly saw me but could do nothing because his mind just froze.
Try watching Youtube on Russian car accidents and then try to see if you can predict what will happen. You will be surprised you cannot see them coming. Sometime drivers just freeze even if they can see the car coming their way.
I like watching Russian/Chinese/rest of the world car crash Youtube. 😀
I don't see the point of fast car in UK btw as everyone is driving on horse cart lane from by the gone years so what's the point? You cannot even drive more than 70mph max and my 1.6 Corolla can easily get to 70mph on motorway. On other it's pointless trying to argue with bureaucrats if you get fine.
As for revving the engine loudly is there a law against loud car engine?
Er yes, plenty.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/vca/fcb/cars-and-noise.asp
It was left hand drive so probably a rich Arab so could pay for the damage to all cars out of his spare pocket change. Anyway it wasn't his fault so the bill will come from the driver of the other cars insurance. I don't think the lambo was going that fast. He probably didn't see the other car and just didn't hit the brakes at al there was no sound of tyres partially locking up under the abs. Those things are loud anyway, he probably had it in a lower gear than he needed as he was posing and he probably had a fancy exhaust too.
Not I uncommon to see rich Arabs in the cars they've flown over to London with people spotting expensive cars in London. London is pretty much wholly owned by rich Arabs after all so they see it as their own playground. It was on Fifth Gear last night funnily enough - see how many expensive super cars you can spot around London and post your tally up on twitbook.
footflaps - MemberAs for revving the engine loudly is there a law against loud car engine?
Er yes, plenty.
😆 Surely they past the test otherwise all Italian car makers will go kaput by manufacturing speed monsters. Bloody bureaucrats at work with no common sense. The Lambor is manufactured in Italy hence EU is it not? 🙄
Even an 80s Porsche 911 Targa is bloody loud (by comparison to Subaru boxer engine and this is legal) when you start the engine and as a kid I thought my friend's uncle Targa had plenty of lose bolts in the engine.
Surely they past the test
Probably, but that wasn't what you asked....
footflaps - MemberSurely they past the test
Probably, but that wasn't what you asked....
😆 The useless noise rules I see. 🙄
I bet there will be new rules soon stating that everyone should not drive in winter without winter tyres.
Noise is tested at low RPM - 3500 for bikes, iirc, not sure for other vehicles.
Modern vehicles are designed to be quiet at the engine speeds specified in the tests, with ignition timing and exhaust systems engineered to ensure that they pass.
So they can still be loud at full chat.
Daft really, but that's the law at the mo.
The useless noise rules I see
Not at all useless in that part of town. The noise levels from the visitors and their cars has reached stupid proportions. That there haven't been that many accidents is just lucky so far.
It was in Sloane St, Knightsbridge. According to [url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/10734723/Lamborghini-Aventador-worth-300000-towed-away-after-three-car-crash.html ]this Telegraph article[/url] people were filming it because, well, that's what people seem to do when they see a supercar. My favourite nugget from the article: The actual owner of the car was having lunch with her two daughters at the time. Ouch!
There are other videos on You Tube of this car, UK plates, making a **** of himself.
According to the Supercars of London YT videos (they posted a before and after) they were "racing" a Maserati - or at least as much as you can race a Masser round London
Shermer, that end of Sloane Street is in Chelsea. 🙂
It looks suspiciously like one of those situations that STW struggles with- 2 parties, both in the wrong.
Ah, good to know 🙂
or at least as much as you can race a Masser round London
'There's only two speeds in London- 100mph and stop' © Jasper Carrott
It was in Sloane St, Knightsbridge. According to this Telegraph article people were filming it because, well, that's what people seem to do when they see a supercar. My favourite nugget from the article: The actual owner of the car was having lunch with her two daughters at the time. Ouch!
That was the BMW owner wasnt it?
According to the Supercars of London YT videos (they posted a before and after) they were "racing" a Maserati - or at least as much as you can race a Masser round London
The one in the background of the video?
except it isn't a Fact! It is incorrect. He had priority. There is quite a difference.Mazda at fault. The Lambor has the right of way. Fact!
Apparently this is how it was being driven a few minutes before:
Do people seriously reckon that crash was the result of a car doing <30mph?
If you look he hadn't hit the brakes as he comes into view, he certainly wasn't skidding (he sounds like he's going fast but they do by default). If you analyse the video you see he moves about the length of the parked car (about 5.5m) in about 0.4-0.5 seconds, that's somewhere around 40mph or less (and it clearly looks about that speed).
Car should not have pulled out, Lambo had nowhere to go but should have been able to stop so was probably paying less attention than should have been, but primarily that was caused by the Mazda not looking where it was pulling out.
That was the BMW owner wasnt it?
Yep, you're right! Oops...
Great for the people on the buses. If it weren't a Lambo involved the cars would've been pushed to the kerbs and everything would carry on as normal. And the guys running/cycling behind with video cameras? Not sure why we've developed this awe of expensive baubles.
I'm a bit curious why so many slack jawed yokels are standing around in the last vid.
I'm a bit curious why so many slack jawed STWers are debating who is "at fault" in that bloody video!!
I'm a bit curious why so many slack jawed yokels are standing around in the last vid.
It's a beautiful car that's been damaged and one that people rarely see, let alone see broken.
I'm a bit curious why so many slack jawed STWers are debating who is "at fault" in that bloody video!!
Because it's not clear, by any stretch of the imagination, unless you have preconceived notions and an inability to separate them from reality.
May I be the first to blame Thatcher?
Not if I can blame Hitler first!
/Godwin


