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After a nice week with some lovely people got onto a plane back from Tenerife Sunday night and yet again had to endure a 4.5 hr flight cacooned into a small metal tube with what can only be described as the worst of the UK population.
Gent behind actually threatened me when I asked his girlfriend politely to stop constantly kicking the back of my seat. Tracksuited man in the row in front practically eating his fake tanned girlfriends face off for the entire flight. Another man endlessly complained about being too hot and then proceeded to remove his top and walk around the flight to show us all his sunburnt beer belly. Old Scouser next to me seemed nice enough and tried to make conversation but he was so p***ed up that I could hardly understand a word he said. Clueless families with out of control kids drinking vodka and beer and then talking complete s**t so that all around could hear.
Honestly, no wonder the British have a bad reputation abroad.
Sod paying for extra legroom seats, I'd happily pay some extra money to sit in a guaranteed 'Chav Free' area of the plane so that I could actually get some peace, read a magazine and perhaps enjoy returning to the UK.
got onto a plane back from Tenerife
got onto a plane back from Tenerife
Yep, that's where it started to go wrong, isn't it? 🙂
You could fly business class with a schedule airline. Also populated with mostly ****ers, but quieter ones.
tracknicko +1
Only yourself to blame.
Buy a more expensive ticket. Also flying to Chav tastic destinations wont help you much.
pay some extra money to sit in a guaranteed 'Chav Free' area of the plane
Google "private jet hire", probably the only way to get chav free anything on such a flight
Happens to us all at some point. You've just had a short trip to Jeremy Kyle World. Think of it as a theme park. Just laugh at them and enjoy the fact that it was only for a few hours. That's what some peoples daily lives consist of. Just imagine that!!! 😯
You could fly business class with a schedule airline. Also populated with mostly ****, but quieter ones.
This is often true. 🙂
no-one was forcing you to stay on the plane, you could have just left.
You could fly business class with a schedule airline. Also populated with mostly ****, but quieter ones.[s]This is often true. [/s] I didn't get where I am today...
ftfy 😉
If you can't beat them joined, neck a bottle of 20/20 and treat it as role play, you might like it.
Well ,if only you had stuck in at school ,then you could afford to avoid the riff raff 🙂 😉
Flying to any popular holiday destination in Europe from the UK you are going to have to put up with it.
You can live it up in a five star villa with your own butler for a week but at the end of the holiday you will most likely be stuck on the same charter flight with the rest of the hoi polloi.
Unless you are prepared to foot the bill for business class then air travel is a great leveller!
Either join in the fun or get some noise cancelling headphones and a sedative!
You could fly business class with a schedule airline
It's not that I would want to fly business class or expect better service - perhaps just to travel in an area of an aircraft where people have enough politeness to behave themselves and to consider the other people around them. Is that too much to ask?
got onto a plane back from Tenerife
+ 1000
Most planes already have a chav free zone, it's called the cockpit 🙂
I fly back and forth to Lanzarote and Tenerife quite a lot [every couple of months] and rarely see the sort of behaviour you had.
It's not that I would want to fly business class - just travel in an area of an aircraft where people have enough politeness to behave themselves and consider the other people around them.
Pay to fly on a proper airline, fly on a route that isn't a cheap holiday destination. Job done.
I often fly LHR-BCN and have never had any problems on board (apart from the one day when they'd run out of Tabasco for my Bloody Mary. There was nearly a hijack situation then, I can tell you)
I'm with the OP- one of the last times that I flew there was a heavily hungover guy sat next to me- stinking of booze- asking to get out every 5mins to run to the toilet.
WHY do it just before you leave?
Across from me was a potty-mouthed family with screaming kids.
I'd happily pay some extra money to sit in a guaranteed 'Chav Free' area of the plane
there's your ****ing answer then you sodding cheapskate..
jog on innit bruv 😉
I always thought the chav free zone was called 1st/Business Class.
Of course you could always holiday in the glorious UK and not have to fly at all.
yunki - MemberI'd happily pay some extra money to sit in a guaranteed 'Chav Free' area of the plane
there's your **** answer then you sodding cheapskate..
jog on innit bruv
Or how about people just learn to behave themselves?
Can we have chav-free zones more widely?
How about a 'braying middle-class free zone' ?
😉
Or how about people just learn to behave themselves?
or that yes 😀
but just maybe it was them what was in the right though and your behaviour what was wrong..?
Perhaps the age of wanting everyone to sit around quietly just because you do is a little bit selfish and last millenium..?
By your own admission you were in the minority..
Has one sacked one's pilot?
How about a 'braying middle-class free zone' ?
😆
Aeroflot.
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got onto a plane back from Tenerife Sunday night
A morning or early afternoon flight is preferable, whilst you'll still get the odd piss head, it ain't going to be anywhere near as bad as a night flight.
I came back a couple of weeks ago, 10 hour delay [9pm instead of 11am], I did think it could be 'interesting' given all the time we were waiting at the airport but it was OK.
it's public transport innit and the public in it.
yuk.
new white trainers
gold
stella at 6.30am because "I'm on holiday"
Who flies to Europe on holiday?
Tenerife is a bit tougher to drive to though and Lyon is not quite as warm in January
Although, I'm riding a motorbike down to Lanzarote soon 🙂
A significant proportion of arguments/annoyance could be solved in cattle class by disabling the seat recline feature - cannot be used without annoying the person behind you (unless the are pre-teen or a dwarf).
It also helps to travel in a group that matches the row size of the aircraft you are on.
Which UK destination were you travelling to OP?
The harder it is to spell, and or the colder it is when you get there, the less Chavs will be on the plane.
It's called 1st Class
The harder it is to spell, and or the colder it is when you get there, the less Chavs will be on the plane.
Funnily you never get these sort on the planes to Geneva do you
Funnily you never get these sort on the planes to Geneva do you
Yes, you do. Half term, ski season on the likes of Sleaze or Thomas Cook.
A significant proportion of arguments/annoyance could be solved in cattle class by disabling the seat recline feature
You recline, person behind you reclines, net amount of space is exactly the same. Never understood this argument (and they only recline about an inch anyway).
Noise cancelling headphones - done.
Have you seen the business class prices? I thought it would be nice to upgrade for my 30th trip to mexico - the price of upgrading 2 seats was more than the rest of the trip put together - and that was 2 weeks fully catered and guided round the majan sites of yucatan. How does any afford those sort of prices!
Just get absolutely leathered before you get on the plane. Get some tats that you display proudly by wearing a wife-beater and the spend the journey glaring at people, while loudly having a conversation with the voices in your head. Sorted! 😀
Noise cancelling headphones - done.
That won't stop someone kicking the back of you seat.
Being in business doesn't ensure you'll have a lovely, peaceful flight!
Regardless of where you are sitting, it's just a big tin filled with lots of people you spend your whole life trying to avoid, whether it's self important widget salesmen trying deperately to get that last cold call in before take off, or a 18 year old on the way to Magaluf.
One of the worst flights i've ever had was to San Diego in business, with a total muppet of a colleague who wanted to spend the entire flight doing work which needed my input. I'd rather have the drunken idiot on that flight 🙂
Solution:
Alcohol + headphones.
Or, if you're in business, Alcohol + headphones + laptop open at widget sales speadsheet 🙂
Or as OMITN points out, avoid public transport. A plane is just a flying bus.
You've got me reet worried now - I'm going to Tenerife for the first time at Christmas and I'm flying Jet2 from ....... Newcastle. The flight is hust at the right time for them to have drunk their first eleventeen pints of Stella. Oh, heck.
colleague who wanted to spend the entire flight doing work which needed my input
Easy way around that....I always make sure I book on a different flight! 🙂
Noise cancelling headphones are a must, that's true. Oh, and if I'm flying long haul at a weekend - work laptop goes in the hold! Tablet, plus phones, plus a nice glass of wine. Lovely.
Yes, you do. Half term, ski season on the likes of Sleaze or Thomas Cook.
Was this before Postit sales went stratospheric?
OP you went in half-term week, there's the problem. Our trip back was much better in late November only the nervous lesbian to deal with!
Tracksuits* along with jeans banned in British Airways first class. One doesn't travel in anything less.
Although “leisure suits" (pronounced, I assume “lee-sure") are permitted. Of course, if I'd just coughed up £10,000 for the seat I might be inclined to wear whatever the hell I want and dare them to throw me out. Does a mankini count as “smart casual"?
The flight is hust at the right time for them to have drunk their first eleventeen pints of Stella. Oh, heck.
Hah. You need to spend more time at airports for early flights. The bars are already in full swing at 7am anyway
You've got me reet worried now - I'm going to Tenerife for the first time at Christmas and I'm flying Jet2 from ....... Newcastle.
You'll be fine, Christmas in the Canaries is way too expensive for a lot of chavs.
My Mrs is flying out with Jet2 on 21st Dec but she's usually well behaved, at least when I'm around she is.
You need to spend more time at airports for early flights. The bars are already in full swing at 7am anyway
*Shudders*
Have done a few skiing trips in the past, ex-LGW, on early, early flights with Thomas Cook (Neilson hols). Bars are full of SAGA-louts at 0530, swigging a double G&T "coz we're on olly day, innit?". Vile.
My current travel rule is that I might permit myself a cheeky Bloody Mary in the flounge after 1030, but any flight before that? Nah. Never.
Easy way around that....I always make sure I book on a different flight!
I think my whinging as just been in touch with Lord Karma, since I've just had confirmation of flights to Dublin on Wednesday...with Ryanair!!!!
Even worse, I've been booked on a Saturday am flight back. WTF????? I must have done something seriously wrong 🙁
EDIT: panic over, i'm having dinner on friday evening so not enough time to catch last flight back.
I flew from Cardiff to Dublin with Aer Arran for a couple of work weeks. It was an interesting mix of people. On the Friday it was mostly people going to Cardiff for a nightout.
There were a couple of right bimbos sat in front of me on one - nice, pleasant enough, but dressed like Barbies and pretty funny. They were wondering where the in-flight movie was (it's a 45 minute flight) and rather shocked that it was a small plane with steps built into the door. Really, were you expecting a jumbo?
When air travel was exclusive.........
If you travel in a pith helmet, you have a 75% chance of a free flight upgrade. Well known fact.
Do Giro do one?
Well the rot starts with this tautology:
the hoi polloi
I mean, frankly, I couldn't abide spending more than a minute with anyone who wasn't aware that "hoi" is the nominative plural of "ho" the Greek for "the", making [i]the hoi polloi[/i] tautological. Cattle class or not.
Me? I just get as wasted as possible on diddy bottles of wine and pray for oblivion. It's the only way to be sure.
that nufc tat is remarkably neat.
that nufc tat is remarkably [s]neat[/s] sexy
FTFY
I think that some of the most obnoxious people I've encountered on planes have been in the forward cabins. Their behaviour in airport lounges can be even worse.
I think that some of the most obnoxious people I've encountered on planes have been in the forward cabins. Their behaviour in airport lounges can be even worse.
This often crops up, but I can't say that it rings true to my experience. The most animated I've seen most people in the Flounge at LHR has been when someone has allowed their phone to ring out loud. Shockingly bad form. 😉
making the hoi polloi tautological
Well not really, tautology refers to expressing the same idea multiple times. I do this all the time, it's something I do every day.
Adding needless words would be considered to be thought of as redundancy.
The most animated I've seen most people in the Flounge at LHR has been when someone has allowed their phone to ring out loud.
The Flounge at LHR can be amongst the worst given that everyone is there because of their entitlement (which too many seem to equate to "importance") rather than where they're actually sitting...
Still, I think the best/worst toy-throwing I've seen has generally been in the lounges in Hong Kong.
Only travel on flights that leave London City airport, it's the only sure way to avoid them.
There are worse travelling companions, generally American often called 'Mary Beth' and weighing in at half a ton which, even in business class spills into your space, whilst insisting on trying to converse with your cute british accent until you have to force yourself to be very rude and don the noise cancelling headphones an essential travel accessory.
Ourmaninthenorth drives northbound on his hols.
Well, sadly I do have to come back now and again.... 😉
Worst passenger I ever encountered was when I was flying back from Sydney HKG-LHR in upper class. A youngish bloke pissed out of his mind kept robbing bottles of wine from the bar and was being very rowdy disturbing everyone's sleep.
jota 180 - that's the same flight that we're on. I'll be wearing a Newcastle shirt and reading the Sun if she wants a chat ........ (only joking, Rohan and the Guardian, of course),
everyone is there because of their entitlement (which too many seem to equate to "importance") rather than where they're actually sitting...
Valid point. I tend to go out on to that little "balcony" bit. Far quieter overall. That said, there's more of the "it's free so I'll get trollied" mentality in the Club Galleries than the Flounge, IMO.
HKG lounges? Always been pleasantly impressed with the CX lounges there. Especially those awesome little "pod" seats they have. Oh, and the noodles!
LAX has to be the worst Flounge, though. Utterly packed out, as BA and Qantas both leave at a similar time. Very little privacy/space. Sat next to a very pleasant, if a little vacant, Scottish singer for a while and chatted to her and her entourage. However, as lounges go, way too small and crowded.
Flew buiseness class with BA to Seattle last year.
So glad i was not in 1st class, as there was screaming kids in there all the way (9 hours)
I would have loved to see the forum posts from the 1st class passengers after that flight :0)
Don't think the airline or destination matters much - there was a similar 'chair-kicking and threatened violence' incident when I flew with Singapore Airlines a couple of weeks back.
Worst passenger I ever sat near was on a BA flight - coke'd out of her mind. I can only think she'd considered smuggling her stash, only to bottle it at the last minute and snort the lot before going through security. She spoke/swore/kicked/fidgeted/reclined/un-reclined/got up/sat down constantly, barely pausing for breath for about four hours.
Valid point. I tend to go out on to that little "balcony" bit. Far quieter overall. That said, there's more of the "it's free so I'll get trollied" mentality in the Club Galleries than the Flounge, IMO.HKG lounges? Always been pleasantly impressed with the CX lounges there. Especially those awesome little "pod" seats they have. Oh, and the noodles!
The balcony is better, but the whole place is a bit crowded these days.
The CX lounges in HKG seem to bring out the worst in humanity, particularly in the way that people speak to the staff. Still, I've seen some pretty effective coping strategies deployed 😉
I would have loved to see the forum posts from the 1st class passengers after that flight :0)
You've been to [url= http://www.flyertalk.com ]flyertalk.com[/url] then 😀
You've been to flyertalk.com then
If you think this place is bad.....! 😉
You've been to flyertalk.com then
"My champagne wasn't chilled to my liking, what compensation am I due"?
Yep, that's about the level! With one slight edit.....:-)
"My champagne wasn't chilled to my liking, what compensation am I due? Do you have ANY IDEA HOW IMPORTANT I AM? DO YOU? DO YOU?"
😀
Feel my status! Go on, feel it!
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I think that some of the most obnoxious people I've encountered on planes have been in the forward cabins. Their behaviour in airport lounges can be even worse.
Wishful thinking maybe?
IME that's not the case..









