[Closed] Channel 4 news - another soldier shooting a dog ... P**s me off big time.

With all that's going on in Afghanistan, the worst you can find to complain about is somebody shooting a dog? ffs.

I agree. Regardless of what's going on around,there's no need for pointless violence.

Yes. Why shoot a defenseless dog when you can shoot a Taliban?

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Have you thought this through, your values seem a bit confused.

I don't mind the lads shooting the brain off the Taliban or chop them to pieces etc ... I will still buy them a pint.

But get this ... why shot/killed a defenseless dog because one of you got bitten by it?

The lad who shot the dog dead you definitely have a pea brain. With the brain size like yours no wonder the fight against the insurgents, them with primitive "technology", were long and hard.

I've never been to war, but I imagine that living with the thought that you may kill human beings might cloud your judgement when it comes to dogs.

Describe to us what you think a 'taliban' is?

Worse things are happening. The only thing that shocks me was that he waited to shoot it.

I see your point, but put yourself in the soldier's shoes. What you gonna do? Take it home and let it sleep at the end of the bed? Its so scared, probably won't see its owners again = put it out of its misery. Not that I agree with shooting dogs, likes, or the soldier even got that far in his thinking. Wouldn't surprise me if they're 'trained' to kill any such animals they come across.

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An Afghan hound, yesterday.

No. You do not shoot something that is defenseless especially when it is an animal like a dog.

But human animal yes when they carry AK-47.

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The dog isn't defenseless. If it was, then soldier wouldn't have bite marks.

I remember a band called the Afghan Hounds I would have happily shot. Apart from that, I'm not really sure what you're on about.

EDIT: f*ck me monster. I would have shot that long faced freak if I had a gun.

Now, I don't mind the lads shooting the brain off the Taliban or chop them to pieces etc .

But get this ... why shot/killed a defenseless dog because one of you got bitten by it?

I thought you had to put a dog down once it bit someone.

This is clearly asking for trouble though.
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If you have never been in theatre, then please do not post your stupid comments as you have no idea!

jimmy - Member

I see your point, but put yourself in the soldier's shoes. What you gonna do?

Live with the punctured holes and get on with it. Stop shooting a defenseless animal. What a coward.

Take it home and let it sleep at the end of the bed? Its so scared, probably won't see its owners again = put it out of its misery. Not that I agree with shooting dogs, likes, or the soldier even got that far in his thinking. Wouldn't surprise me if they're 'trained' to kill any such animals they come across.

To that trooper ... Just leave it alone and get on with shooting Taliban ... bloody pea brain.

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If you have never been in theatre, then please do not post your stupid comments as you have no idea!

Of course, because anyones view from outside the action zone is completely irrelevant and bound to be based on flawed logic...

I think the OP's value system is spot on.

"The more people I meet; the more I love my dog."

Has TJ joined up? maybe the dog was not under control and was causing annoyance/disturbance to the other people in the compound?

Ian Munro - Member

The dog isn't defenseless. If it was, then soldier wouldn't have bite marks.

No. Only pea brain shoots pet. They entered it's compound what do you expect? Lick their boots?

He got bitten so get on with it ... bloody coward.

"Of course, because anyones view from outside the action zone is completely irrelevant and bound to be based on flawed logic.."

yup, that's the gist of it.

I agree with the poster sure tension is high etc but there's a big difference imo of shooting a dog that's prob just scared and defending itself and shooting a person armed with the intention of taking you out

chewkw...are you speaking dog? I'm guessing English is a distant cousin to your first language...

higthepig - Member

Because the vast majority have rabies, mange and more worms that a fishing tackle shop. Funny how some get so upset about the death of an animal, but a human life.............

FFS! So get on the heli and fly to the nearest camp hospital ... but why shot it? Get on with it.

Yes, you can shoot the human with AK because they might blow your head off. Defenseless animal ... what a pea brain.

[url= http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/MdZfS3srtyt/Afghan+Dog+Fighting+Makes+Resurgence+After/4IZdJku2GYk ]To be fair, it is not as if the Afghanis are a nation of dog lovers.[/url]

Chewkw - I'd invite you to go to war and not do things that might be seen as mad by those watching chanell 4 tv back home 😕

Sorry, but that op REALLY p*sses me right off - and I am a dog lover so have no agendas here.

Wait, this was on the news?
What happened to the world...

action dan - Member

If you have never been in theatre, then please do not post your stupid comments as you have no idea!

Theatre? WTF! Everyone can shoot and everyone can kill but killing a defenseless animal is only for pea brain. You are trained to distinguish when to shoot ... but a dog? You are definitely not fit to carry that gun.

I do not care if you are in theatre or war ... if you are so trigger happy and cannot even distinguish a dog from a Taliban then you are better off not going. Still a pea brain.

Sorry to piss on your chips Chookoo but I watched the same programme and if you actually bothered to listen properly the reporter states "one round OVER ITS HEAD and there's no more from the dog". You can see/hear all this at 10m 43s in this channel 4 news vid (you can fast forward to the time point).

http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/uk/being+watched+on+the+afghan+frontline/3579862

(although you can't fast forward to the time point so probably not worth waiting for).

Yeah you can. Anyways, your 100% right.

[i]He got bitten so get on with it ... bloody coward.[/i]

I suggest you contact the army directly and ask them to forward your allegation to the soldier in question, and arrange a time an place where you can assert to him directly that he's a pea brained coward.

FFS - its a dog!

I'm guessing that animal rights are some way down the list of priorities, when you might get shot any second.

Unless the OP doesn't eat meat, never wears any cosmetics (including deodorant) and never uses any leather products then maybe we can forgive the guy for making a judgement that we can sit comfortably back in our armchairs and ponder over...

[edit] just saw allthepies post...

Of course, cats are an altogether different kettle of fish.

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chewkw

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt, going back in a few months, I know what it is like. You do not, I feel sorry that this is all you can get upset about, with what is going on in the world. Still I suppose that is what free-speech is all about, allowing those to rant from an ill-informed position....................

allthepies - Member

Sorry to piss on your chips Chookoo but I watched the same programme and if you actually bothered to listen properly the reporter states "one round OVER ITS HEAD and there's no more from the dog". You can see/hear all this at 10:43 in this channel 4 news vid (although you can't fast forward to the time point so probably not worth waiting for).

"one round OVER ITS HEAD and there's no more from the dog"

hmmm ... I am not so sure ... 😡

Chewkw - You are pathetic, no more to be said really.

>hmmm ... I am not so sure ...

Did you watch the video again ?

IanMunro - +1 for that comment.

Oh, and to the OP, if ranting about someone being a pea brain, perhaps you should learn some basic grammar and spelling first. 😉

*Edit - higthepig, glass raised to you and yours, fella! Take a hearty thanks from me out there with you when you're next there, spread it around!

I don't think a soldier in Afganistan can be called a coward under any circumstances. And as the C4 link above quite clearly states "one round OVER ITS HEAD and there's no more from the dog", yes, its scared shitless, but not apparently dead yet.

that dog made a lot of noise after getting shot
and managed to run off.

who has the pea sized brain?

[i]hmmm ... I am not so sure [/i]

Other than you can see the dog running off round the corner.
Was wondering what this was about, I've just watched the same Ch4 programme.
That's almost Daily Wail style - right, I haven't seen the full story but I'm going to rant about it anyway!!

this is a wind up, right? come on chewkw stop teasing. maybe post a pic of yourself kicking a dog to prove it was all just to get a reaction.

What a waste of a bullet isn't that what bayonets are for?

The lad who shot the dog dead you definitely have a pea brain. With the brain size like yours no wonder the fight against the insurgents, them with primitive "technology", were long and hard.

Yep, if they had people who could understand the phrase 'over its head' out there it would be a doddle

Ian Munro - Member

He got bitten so get on with it ... bloody coward.

I suggest you contact the army directly and ask them to forward your allegation to the soldier in question, and arrange a time an place where you can assert to him directly that he's a pea brained coward.

I would if I can meet him face to face. I will put this to him and ask his rationale for shooting the dog.

If you know him we can meet. So are you saying that he has the brute strength? Or are you saying he has the gun? Like I said everyone can shoot and everyone can kill but if he has a pea brain then he might as well come home.

He is trained for fight is he not? He is trained in making the right decision at the right time at the right moment is he not? So when was he trained to shoot a dog? Taliban yes but a dog. Where?

[size=+3][b]THE SOLDIER DID NOT SHOOT THE DOG![/b][/size]

If he'd shoot a dog on camera, he'd probably shoot a civi off-camera...

We are just supporting another Dictator, nothing has changed.

To be fair, it is not as if the Afghanis are a nation of dog lovers.

According to your link Jamie :

"[i]Dogfighting is facing a resurgence after it was banned under the Taliban for being un-Islamic. [/i]"

So there are now weekly dog fights in Afghanistan's capital Kabul, to which spectators come to watch ?
But the Taliban wants to ban them ?

OK, now I'm getting a little confused. The Taliban are the 'good guys' - right ?
And we're there to help them - yeah ?
.......... so why does chewkw say : "[i]I don't mind the lads shooting the brains off the Taliban [/i]" 😕

I don't think a soldier in Afganistan can be called a coward under any circumstances.

I'm sure there are some that are. I haven't logged into Help Our Heroes or something have I? You know, where any serving soldier is completely above criticism. They joined up and learned how to kill people, I guess if it's an animal, it's just practice isn't it? Let's just call it collateral damage shall we and be done with it.

CaptainFlashheart

Thank you, should I could take chewkw with me, I know some very nice places 👿

[i]So when was he trained to shoot a dog? Taliban yes but a dog. Where?[/i]

He. Didn't. Shoot. The. Dog.
One round over it's head, the dog ran off, you can see it go.

Suppose he'd left it there, it's just bitten a soldier (who now needs rabies treatment), there's loads of other soldiers milling around, confusion, noise, helicopters etc, suppose the dog goes ballistic and starts attacking people?

One bang, dog runs off, the soldier has saved the dog from being injured/shot and saved his comrades from any further attack.

SOOBalias - Member

that dog made a lot of noise after getting shot
and managed to run off.

who has the pea sized brain?

I did not see the dog running off on the news.

I do not mind being called a pea brain if I was wrong and if it was not killed but shooting a dog is definitely not on.

The last time a dog was killed because it was barking some pea brain American soldiers and they shot it. The dog was chained when it was barking.

bad things happen in war, people act in ways that are deemed bad or wrong in normal society. Its how people deal with horrible things. I never went to war when I was in the army, but was always disgusted by my staff sarge's racism towards iraqis. Then he told me that he didn't really hate them, but he found it very hard to shoot people if he saw them as people, and thought about their families, lives and past. He was dehumanising them, acting in an overtly offensive way to try and make his job and his ability to cope with it easier, in his words, "its easier to shoot a rat than a person.". Its not right, its not my way, but then I'm not a soldier in a war and I don't have to deal with these things.

yeah he shot a dog, its bad and wrong. If he'd shot it at the time it'd be ok, if the dog got blown up by a rocket it'd be ok.

its sad that people act like that, but worse things happen in war.

>I do not mind being called a pea brain if I was wrong and if it was not killed

You are a pea brain 🙂

chewkw, would you like a larger spade?

then it is you sir who has the pea brain.

The last time a dog was killed because it was barking some pea brain American soldiers and they shot it.

To be fair chewkw, the Yanks aren't too fussed who they shoot - as long as they shoot something. So I don't reckon a dog's chance very much when they're around.

Our Boys on the other hand, come from a nation of animal lovers. So we don't do that sort of stuff 8)

I hope the dog is alright that's all after all it was guarding it's compound.

Now let's have some fun shooting some Talibans. Oh look a Talib ... shoot! 3 points.

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Just leave it alone and get on with shooting Taliban ... bloody pea brain

Ah yes.. irony.. I see...

chewkw

Is it legal or illegal stuff you are on?

okay ... time to have my dinner now ...

molgrips - Member

Just leave it alone and get on with shooting Taliban ... bloody pea brain

Ah yes.. irony.. I see...

The dog's life is worth many times more than thousands of Talibs put it this way. The Talib would cut your head off while the dog will remain loyal forever.

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The dog's life is worth many times more than thousands of Talibs.....

Now there's a message that we need to hammer home to the Afghan people.

.....when they start whingeing about an air strike against a wedding party.

ernie_lynch - Member

Now there's a message that we need to hammer home to the Afghan people.

.....when they start whingeing about an air strike against a wedding party.

Talibs with RPG & AK-47 that shoot at you ... not ordinary people by the way ...

There's a ginger talib cat up the road from me.
I've always suspect that it's been up to no good.

Not ordinary people ?

I think you're giving them too much credit.

What a strange rant from someone with no idea what he's talking about. It looks like the soldier has much more ability to assess the facts quickly and act accordingly than the OP! (despite being injured instead of just offended).

best line from the footage has to be

"!medic so&so has been shot in the head!"

"omg whos been shot?"

"no need to panic, its cant be that bad, hes still firing."

I have known/know a couple a British soldiers (old school mates) and to tell the truth I'm quite frankly terrified that some of these people are given guns and allowed to be supposedly responsible adults! If your a halfwit without a gun it doesn't bear thinking about if you have one and some of the Americans are much much worse.

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The last time a dog was killed because it was barking some pea brain American soldiers and they shot it. The dog was chained when it was barking.

Wow can you really do that? I mean shooting a dog because it barks. That's wickid awusm...
Now because my neighbour's dog is an annoying ****er and she (the neighbour) is not too bothered about it (even when the dog escapes and try to bit me, throw me off my bike) and see I really wouldn't mind to shoot him. Off course to make it ok with the OP I'll dress him as a taliban of course.

this thread stinks of troll
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The dog's life is worth many times more than thousands of Talibs put it this way. The Talib would cut your head off while the dog will remain loyal forever.

I really hope you are trolling.

Have you run out of 😡 ?
or just realised you were being an apeth?

chewkw - Member
okay ... time to have my dinner now ...

molgrips - Member

Just leave it alone and get on with shooting Taliban ... bloody pea brain

Ah yes.. irony.. I see...

The dog's life is worth many times more than thousands of Talibs put it this way. The Talib would cut your head off while the dog will remain loyal forever.

come highly recommended on the dinner menu in china. 😯

Chekw - presumably if you value dogs so highly you personally boycott anything made in China, korea or Taiwan?

Can I just point out something.. Clearly it's not already been pointed out so I think i should...

He didn't shoot the dog.
The dog was not shot.
A round from the soldier's rifle did not hit the dog.
The dog is not an ex-dog
The dog is alive
The dog ran away.
See spot run
Run spot run!

The

Dog

Was

Not

Shot.

He didn't shoot the dog!

So did the OP get his/her knickers in a twist without really grasping the whole of the story, and then head stright for an internet forum to vent?

s****.

Hope his dinner is Korean Meatballs - they really are the dogs bollocks!!

markenduro - Member

Chekw - presumably if you value dogs so highly you personally boycott anything made in China, korea or Taiwan?

Yes. Watch Youtube on fur trade? Dog meat?

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[b]chewkw[/b] can i ask you a personal question?

Are you a Troll or an Idiot? 🙄