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Getting a wood burner soon, so I'm going to be needing a chainsaw… 😉

At the moment have a massive pile of large logs from the recent storms, so was going to get a chain saw to to get going at them…

Any recommendations…

Don't really want to spend more than £100 ,and being petrol would be good

saw this ealier..

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003R7DNBQ?psc=1

Thanks

Z.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 11:46 am
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You didn't read the reviews I take it?
Second hand Stihl off eBay would be where I'd look to put my money.
HTH...


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 11:52 am
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Get a good crosscut saw and a sawhorse then your wood will warm you up twice

dont forget to budget for the PPE if you get the chainsaw


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 11:54 am
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I would definitely buy a 2nd gand Stihl over that.
You dont need a bar that big. 14 inches is more than enough.
Basically you want a big engined small bar saw as it will power through everything,
the cheap saws just use a different pitch chain to try and make up for being under engined.

Realistically I think £200 will get you a capeable saw


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 11:59 am
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Good quality stihl or husky will last a domestic user a lifetime, dont buy cheap.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 12:17 pm
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I've got one of these £99 ones, well almost it's a [s]48cc[/s] 52cc (I think)
[url= http://www.trueshopping.co.uk/product/Trueshopping_Raptor45_Petrol_Chainsaw_20_quot_45cc_with_Oregon_Chain_Bar_2.5HP_1.8kW/2608/54499.html ]this one[/url] with a 20" bar that they don't list now.

They do a slightly more expensive 58cc model which is probably the replacement for the one I have.

Here's a some of what I've cut with it to date...
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It hasn't missed a beat.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 12:31 pm
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Yes go second hand unless you can go to £200 for a new Stihl. Good deal in countrywide at the moment for the MS181 which is what I've had for a year, used weekly, very good and sounds perfect for what you,need.

As previous poster said think PPe! I would suggest you need boots, gloves and a vizor as a Minimum .


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 12:43 pm
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As previous poster said think PPe! I would suggest you need boots, gloves and a vizor as a Minimum .

And trousers. And ear defenders.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 1:40 pm
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Good call about the PPe, knew I would need some stuff but hadn't started thinking about it.

And yes would be good to do it by hand and get fit but…...

I know nothing about this sort of stuff, so great be pointed towards Stihl…. No countrywide stores near me though. More research needed I think!

Thanks

Z.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 2:10 pm
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I was given a Chinese saw. They seem to be about 100 quid. Working well so far and has cut 10's of ton's. Wouldn't expect it to do more than a year or two though and who knows where you get spares. Otherwise double your budget.
Re PPE you could join the generation or two of those who thought that protection was long trousers. Thousands of us have never had an incident. The day you do though you will regret it for the rest of your life. Start with your feet. Then eyes. Its the same as cycling without a helmet. you assess the risks.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 2:12 pm
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I've got one of the Chinese specials and I've used it to cut tonnes of logs. New chain has made a lot of difference. However, it is no becoming a bit difficult to start and it has never been as good as my mates second hand Stihl or even my dads McCulloch.
My missus (works in A&E) insisted on PPE, but the thought of turning up at her work missing a limb has made me even more careful. Goggles / visor and ear defenders are cheap and can prevent life changing damage.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:08 pm
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My vote would be for a 14" Hitachi saw, mines not let me down and starts easy, and ppe is a must. I know people who say they can blink quicker than sawdust, but they can't, and neither can you. A thread on here recently quoted that the average chainsaw cut needs 60 stitches, assuming they can stitch on the removed and mutilated limb/appendage. Chainsaws are cool, wood burning is cool, living to tell the tale is also.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:32 pm
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I bought a 2nd hand Stihl 026 and my Mum's had a Stihl MS171 for a few years after an MS170 which she didn't rate. Both great saws.
Steel toed boots and ear/eye protection as a minimum, trousers and helmet next.
Got my boots [url= http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HUSQVARNA-CHAINSAW-SAFETY-BOOTS-Brand-New-All-Sizes-/370540493949?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item5645ef3c7d ]here[/url]. They are big; I'm a 9 1/2 and bought an 8.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:34 pm
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I know you mentioned your budget was £100, for £150 you could pick up a new stilh ms150 and save yourself a whole deal of problems going for a second hand one, once you replaced a chain, plug, sprocket, filter and carb kit on a used one you could end up spending more!

The ms170 is a great chainsaw for the price too, we still use them at work as they are light and are easy to start ( once you know how).

Don't forget safety kit and a decent saw horse too 🙂


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:37 pm
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I know I lot of guys that work as tree fellers and the all swear by stihl and my old man has been using them for years


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:39 pm
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If you look in the back of any tree surgeons landy there is only ever Stihl stuff in there! Although Hitatchi make good stuff too IMO.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 3:50 pm
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OP, if you want a set of chainsaw gloves (ppe on 1 hand only) PM me. I have a free set that don't fit


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 4:18 pm
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Don't forget Husqvarna.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 4:24 pm
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[i]for £150 you could pick up a new stilh ms150 [/i]

Where, they're £400.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 5:15 pm
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for £150 you could pick up a new stilh ms150

Where, they're £400.

sorry, that should have been ms170, they have relaunched it as its been so popular, apart from changing the air filter its basically the same unit


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 5:23 pm
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Husqvarna or Stihl second hand if you ever want to repair it. Makita/Dolmar, Jonseerd, Hitachi and Efco worth considering if you come across them as smaller or emerging brands without the premium of the big names, but still have some form of official distribution.
Smaller bar will get the most out of the engine, 13" bar from both sides gives 26" of cutting. Big bars on small saws are slow and lack cutting power.
My first choice of PPE would be trousers - think where the saw spends most of its time.
Find out how to sharpen it, far more efficient and safer when cutting.


 
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I would recommend buying new. It's just easier for occasional use than the risk of getting a 2nd hand saw that has a few quirks. We get most of our stuff from [url= http://www.frjonesandson.co.uk/products-page/machines/chainsaws-pole-saws/petrol-chainsaws/ ]FRJones[/url] and 160 quid will get you the ms170 mentioned above with full warranty etc. 30cc is enough power to drive a 12" bar through firewood easily enough.

Keep it sharp and it should run for a lifetime.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 7:04 pm
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My uncle bought a stihl woodboss 028 AVnearly 30 yrs ago and until last week it never missed a beat for general farm work type use! On the hunt for a carb for it now as I can't bear to get rid of it, would thoughly recommend one of those!


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 7:14 pm
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Goggles / visor and ear defenders are cheap and can prevent life changing damage.

Not from the chin down they can't.

Just stop and think for a minute where that saw is when it is running and in your hands.

Yes, that's right. Your legs and feet.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 7:42 pm
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Not from the chin down they can't.

Just stop and think for a minute where that saw is when it is running and in your hands.

Yes, that's right. Your legs and feet.


My point is that if you're careful and lucky you can avoid limb chopage, but sawdust and the noise will eventually damage your eyes and ears no matter how careful you are.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 9:17 pm
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Just to echo the comments about learning how to sharpen the chain(youtube it!), it's easy when you know how and makes a huge difference. In terms of PPE get good quality 360 degree protective trousers and boots, expensive? yes likely to keep you alive? most certainly money well spent.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 10:00 pm
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Get the PPE - you can get reasonably priced kits with all the bits on eBay
Mitox are a good compromise if you don't want to stretch to a husky, stihl, echo or makita

Mitox linky - http://www.mowdirect.co.uk/chainsaws/petrol-chainsaws/mitox-petrol-chainsaws


 
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My uncle bought a stihl woodboss 028 AVnearly 30 yrs ago and until last week it never missed a beat for general farm work type use! On the hunt for a carb for it now as I can't bear to get rid of it, would thoughly recommend one of those!
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Contact spudulike on the chainsaws bit of Arbtalk if you get stuck.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 10:06 pm
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dont rule out an electric chainsaw if just using at home on a saw horse, also stops the temptation of taking it to the beach


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 10:07 pm
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Ive got some sipps green trousers 36", husq lid with shield and ear defenders and some haix boots size 9 1/2 pm if interested, email in profile.....


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 10:13 pm
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Horsham Fencing Supplies are one of the biggest stockists of Sthil in the area. I bought the base model 14" about 20 years ago……..

Electric chainsaws seem quite capable for what you are likely to use them for (neighbour has one - does ok with it)


 
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Chainsaws are not to be taken lightly. You have a budget of ton, the cheapest saw I would consider is a 250 quid husky. Don't take the risk of a cheaply built saw that still has the ability to chuck a razor sharp chain at your femoral artery for the sake of 150 quid.


 
Posted : 01/02/2014 10:42 pm
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I bought a 2nd hand Stihl 026 and my Mum's had a Stihl MS171 for a few years after an MS170 which she didn't rate.

Your mom has a chainsaw? 😯 Is she Canadian? 😀

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I bought an electric chainsaw for cutting firewood, was told it's a lot less hassle maintenance wise.

The thing scares me slightly. As someone said previously, it would be easy for a life changing event to happen whilst using one of these things.

I drive a cab, a fella told me a story about how he was going back to the west country to visit his friends family because the father, that he remembered using chainsaws for 30 years had been cutting a fallen tree and the thing sprung over and crushed him. Sounded awful. I suppose the energy stored in this fallen tree was like a 3 ton spring.

I've bought a cordless reciprocating saw as well, i use this 90% of the time


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 3:15 am
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Just bought myself the correct PPE.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 7:09 am
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I think the Sthil MS170 is excellent at £155.
My 14" cheapie was stolen, so I bought a MS170.
Brilliant.
The 171 isnt much different - same engine, but longer bar and £30 more.
The 12" 170 does everything I need domestically, if I was using it for work, it'd be too small, but how often do you cut logs wider than around 10"?


 
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Chainsaws are not to be taken lightly. You have a budget of ton, the cheapest saw I would consider is a 250 quid husky.

Why the arbitrary 250?

The small stihl and husky offerings are very good.

Put a badly joined chain on any saw and you are running a risk, the value of the saw is irrelevant. You need to understand where the risks are.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 9:17 am
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Husky or Stihl all the way.I was a self employed chainsaw operator for twenty years and you get what you pay for.Buy a good make and if used just for log cutting with simple maintenance it will last you a lifetime.Please dont be tight when it comes to PPE.It will save your life if you **** it up.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 11:01 am
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My point is that if you're careful and lucky you can avoid limb chopage, but sawdust and the noise will eventually damage your eyes and ears no matter how careful you are.

Not very much of a point and very badly made.

If you rely upon luck to stop a chainsaw when it catches your leg, but you are wearing a helmet and ear defs, you are not really doing a good job of looking after yourself.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 11:18 am
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Any particular Husky model you recommend no beer?


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 1:15 pm
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Husky 236 is worth a look. I've got one, amongst others.


 
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I don't know enough about saws to be recommending, but I know enough to really respect them. I have a husky 240e with a 15 inch bar, plenty big enough to keep my wood burner fed.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 2:02 pm
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How tough are chainsaw trousers eg can they really stop the blade cutting through or are just sacrificial and delay it a bit as in if you really wanted to cut your own leg off, you could just cut through them?


 
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Depends on the protections/mobility class footflaps but generally they choke the chain so it slows/stops.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 2:41 pm
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we've got a Husky 135 which is probably a really basic model but seems OK for coppicing duties and general log sawing. Wouldn't think of using it without PPE though!


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 2:55 pm
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Really great advice here guys. STW to the rescue again! Have just been offered a possible MS181 2nd hand which might fit the bill well enough.

For the sake of scientific research I did try the manual method of sawing the logs today…. Feeling like a had a good work out, but its not going to be the long term solution. (Logs that heat you twice… I like it!)

Z.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 4:36 pm
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Depends on the protections/mobility class footflaps but generally they choke the chain so it slows/stops.

Interesting.

I've just bought an eletric chainsaw (Bosch thing) as I'm in the process of felling two huge Sycamore trees in the garden and need something to cut the trunks up with. I've not used it yet, or even assembled it, but need to think about PPE.

As for the felling, as the trees are right next to fences, I've been climbing up to the canopy and sawing (by hand) the trees down a few feet at a time, so I can control where it all lands. First time I've used any of my climbing kit in years. The thin stuff has been through the chop saw, but the trunks are probably 16" diameter or more at the base, hence the chainsaw.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 4:36 pm
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How tough are chainsaw trousers eg can they really stop the blade cutting through or are just sacrificial and delay it a bit as in if you really wanted to cut your own leg off, you could just cut through them?

Never having tried to cut through them at work, I can't guarantee their efficacy. Having said that, many a time has a piece of bailer-twine or an old pair of tights (used to tie trees to support stakes) stopped the saw instantly - though I wouldn't recommend either of these as your first line of protection. So I think it's safe to assume chainsaw trousers would do their job.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 5:30 pm
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20 years plus of using chainsaws professionally with correct PPE and i've yet to test the trousers and have no intention of doing so but i have no doubt they work.


 
Posted : 02/02/2014 5:41 pm
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How tough are chainsaw trousers eg can they really stop the blade cutting through

First hand experience, yes they can stop a Sthil MS240 at full rev's. Left a cracking bruise and a very sore leg for a week 😳


 
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I have a 340e husky for sale if you want it, 6 years old good condition with the usual markings of a fairly well used saw, will come with 18" and 15" bars both good condition, and probably 4 or 5 chains which I will sharpen, has not been used for over a year as I have upgraded to a XP saw.

150 quid plus postage.


 
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