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The woman who owns the job agency in Bognor whose client base of job seekers was 98% Eastern European is struggling now because she has no clients as they’ve all gone back home. She voted for brexit.
Just watching that, struggling to have any sympathy with them, but also wouldn't get out of bed for anything less than 10 or 15 quid an hour. Seriously?
Will we still be allowed to use "schadenfreude" after Brexit?
Send them this as a Christmas gift..
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£10/hour isn't far off the living wage which people have been banging on about. Is the living wage fair or not?
Depends where you live surely? With regards to rent and mortgages.
All sounds a bit racist to me. Vote brexit but happy to bring in them foreigners on a stupid low wage because you make more profit than if you employed someone from the UK.
Am I wide of the mark?
Bognor
Extraordinary place. 10 miles away and it’s an another planet.
The living wage isn't fair, that's not what it's about, it's what is considered the minimum wage you can live on.wrecker - Member
£10/hour isn't far off the living wage which people have been banging on about. Is the living wage fair or not?
The governments one is just a branding exercise(£7.50). Even the supposed living wage is peanuts, considered £8.75(outside london) and £10.20(london)
People shouldn't be slapping themselves on the back for meeting any of these minimums.
The reason for the post was that I couldn’t believe someone who’s business model relies on Eastern European labour thought it was sensible to vote to leave Europe.
I hadn’t given the rest of the shonky morals a thought when I typed the original post.
Edited.
It would seem these are the people whose will I need to respect. **** them, I hope they go bankrupt.
The reason for the post was that I couldn’t believe someone who’s business model relies on Eastern European labour thought it was sensible to vote to leave Europe.
These people are out there. In greater numbers than you might want to believe. They have been suckling on the teat of ignorance for far too long.
There's going to a whole lot more of this coming down the pipe as this mess unfolds.
My personal favourite is Grimsby's fishing indusry sending a delegation to number 10 to plead for special exemption as a 'free trade port' to any post-Brexit trade barriers as we export 75% of the fish we catch, mostly to the EU.
Grimsby voted 70/30 to Leave
The living wage isn't fair
Ok.
Sorry but Celebrity Juice is on at the same time.. 😉
wrecker
Ok
Glad you agree.
I don't really care. We're leaving the EU and what will happen will happen. No point getting butthurt about it, its a foregone conclusion. People on this very site have been complaining that food is too cheap for some time now. Looks like they will be happy.
Luckily our plucky commonwealth brothers can be imported from the underwater areas of Bangladesh and they will work for pence.
We're leaving the EU
U sure bro?
Tried for three years to recruit unemployed 'local' people for fruit picking jobs as part of a national gov programme which gave free training courses to ensure they would be able to pick strawberrys (seriously!). Unsurprisingly, other than a very few successes, the programme failed to live up to the political fanfare that was spouted when it started and it was quietly scrapped.
No point getting butthurt about it,
Really....?
I have a non-U.K. citizen wife, two kids to provide for and I work in import/export so I am both painfully aware of how much a cliff-edge Brexit will screw us and also the very real danger of having my family torn apart because this country has lost its collective mind over immigration.
If that's not worth getting 'butthurt' over, please explain to me what is?
As far as I'm concerned the kind of Brexit we end up with is still entirely up in the air, all to play for.
Have the latest figures not proved the whole premise of the show (Brexodus) to be bollocks though?? More EU Nats than ever here since Brexit no?
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/11/16/brexodus-ons-eu-workers-uk-record-high/
Didn't watch the show so apologies if I've missed a point...
**** them, I hope they go bankrupt.
I hope they don't. Partly because I think a significant portion of the country were unsure going into the vote and were deliberately and cynically misled by the Leave campaign so my anger and resentment remains targeted at the politicians and the Brexit backing media. But more practically because things are going to be hard enough over the next few years without more people struggling to make ends meet and creating a bigger strain on the system.
If only there was a brexit thread for the whiners to boohoo to each other.
Will we still be allowed to use "schadenfreude" after Brexit?
Yes, but it will probably be under WTO terms and you will have to pay a 20% tariff and import duty to use the word. This will discourage the use of such foreign words, providing a major boost to the English language and encouraging people to use English words instead of such foreign interlopers.
have a non-U.K. citizen wife, two kids to provide for and I work in import/export so I am both painfully aware of how much a cliff-edge Brexit will screw us and also the very real danger of having my family torn apart because this country has lost its collective mind over immigration.
So what do people in the UK who have wives that are non-UK citizens and from a country outside of the EU? Why are they not getting kicked out of the country? Thinking specifically of my brothers wife. Not a UK or EU citizen and living happily in the UK and has been for 5 years. Really, there is no risk of your wife getting ejected from the UK.
U sure bro?
Foregone.
If that's not worth getting 'butthurt' over, please explain to me what is?
That's in the EU's court. If we all play nicely there is no need for anyone to have to go anywhere.
Yes, there is a very real risk he coukd lose his wife. Sponsoring Non EU spouses is dependant on having an income, which is at risk due to brexit. Your brother applied on the old system, the home office now breaks up families on a faily basis because of this.
At least the recruitment lady admitted she voted wrong and was mislead.
Watched this as I lived in bognor for a while and did tomato picking in my hols from uni. Just me and one other brit working there and lots of eastern Europeans. They could pick about 3 times what we did and earned a nice bonus for it. I hope more young people can be encouraged into the work. It was hard work for low pay but fine as a starter job whilst living cheaply at home or as a lodger and as many free tomatoes as you could fit in a carrier bag!
Foregone
We're committed to nothing, we could tear up article 50 tomorrow without penalty. 😀
That's in the EU's court. If we all play nicely there is no need for anyone to have to go anywhere.
So are British children with European mothers now second class citizens? Do they not have the automatic right to a stable family life?
That is a callous attitude to have towards children.
Most EU workers will come back at one point or another so no big deal.
How many waves of workers come in and out of UK over the century hmmm?
Are there shortage of workers? Really?
Record number of EU citizens are currently working in UK
Romanians and Bulgarians are the two top EU countries of origin in the past year
@wobbliscott, indeed much scaremongering. My partner (we where not married at the time) lived in the US for 3 years with me and our kids, one born there and therefore a US citizen. Max visa stay was 3 months I recall.
[url= http://www.edp24.co.uk/business/farming/food-is-rotting-in-the-fields-nfu-deputy-president-minette-batters-demands-urgent-action-on-seasonal-labour-shortfall-1-5259925 ]food rotting in fields[/url]
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Couple of examples
£10/hour isn't far off the living wage which people have been banging on about. Is the living wage fair or not?
I wish I was getting £10/hour! About £8, in fact, and damned glad to have the job, which I thoroughly enjoy.
*tugs forelock*
Cheers for the work guv.
@wobbliscott, indeed much scaremongering. My partner (we where not married at the time) lived in the US for 3 years with me and our kids, one born there and therefore a US citizen. Max visa stay was 3 months I recall.
Last time I checked, US Immigration were not in charge at the Home Office.
Did I somehow miss an American backed coup going down in London, or are you using poor anecdotes to justify your political stance?
butthurt
Are you 12 and from 2016?
I have no interest in the STW bun fights, but let us not start resorting to such terminology.
The only constant is change so what's the hype? 😆
Ref food rotting in fields article-
accelerated a trend which had been apparent five years earlier.
So actually not a Brexit issue.
Agree with Jamie.
The reality is beginning to dawn - let's hope it's not too late.
The 27 have no interest in cutting any slack for the UK; why should they?
A simple example.......re-writing trade relationships with EU members will be difficult; consider imports from China which are shipped to Rotterdam to break bulk and then trans-ship to UK. Currently seamless. That will change and the costs will be dumped onto the goods being trans-shipped. This takes no account of the physical infrastructure changes required at Rotterdam to facilitate this; where will those charges be imposed?
Pan-european organisations with HQ in UK; they will move.
Research funding for UK unis?
What a mess with generally incompetent politicos wittering on and attempting to retain their current positions; failing to recognise the weakness of their negotiating stance; clearly believing that talking long and loud about a glorious future will make it a reality.
Deluded fools.
Pass the sick bag.
Just for the sake of accuracy re fruit and crop picking.This sort of work hasn't been done by British folk for many,many years. Prior to the more recent large scale migration of workers from the EU, workers mainly from Europe came here on temporary work visas under the Seasonal Agricultural Workers Scheme to do that sort of work and have done so since the end of WW2. It was scrapped in 2013 because of the availability of large numbers of workers/migrants.
@wobbliscott, indeed much scaremongering. My partner (we where not married at the time) lived in the US for 3 years with me and our kids, one born there and therefore a US citizen.
And where did she work? Who paid her medical bills? Who put money aside for her pension?
its a cold sunny day outside, happy arguing. I'm out ont bike.
I wish I was getting £10/hour! About £8
I wish you were too (and anybody else on less than £10 an hour)
Easy enough to make it happen if companies actually wanted to. Up the pay of the lowest in company, freeze the pay for the higher earners in the company. When done transparently you find that the higher earners are happy with that happening.
In the company I work for, no one earns £10 or more per hour.I wish you were too (and anybody else on less than £10 an hour)Easy enough to make it happen if companies actually wanted to. Up the pay of the lowest in company, freeze the pay for the higher earners in the company
In the company I work for, no one earns £10 or more per hour.
What is the business and how many people are in the company as that sounds bizarre.
[quote="scotroutes"]In the company I work for, no one earns £10 or more per hour.The company i work for no one earns *less* than about £10 an hour (dependant on exchange rates of course.)
Even the toilet cleaners and dish washers in the canteen.
And the cost of living is lower too. (mostly driven by housing costs)
Will we still be allowed to use "schadenfreude" after Brexit?
Certainly not. The British term trips off the tongue easily enough.
"pleasure derived by someone from another person's misfortune".
Anyway Bu88er Bognor.
All sounds a bit racist to me. Vote brexit but happy to bring in them foreigners on a stupid low wage because you make more profit than if you employed someone from the UK.Am I wide of the mark?
Not if "foreigners" is a race, no. If not, then yes.
Not if "foreigners" is a race, no. If not, then yes.
Makes as much sense as any other definition of "race".
I call Bull!!! - Living in an area with a very high concentration of eastern europeans (a lot of them friends).. I've not witnessed an such insecurity amongst them due to brexit, Nore any drop in numbers newly arriving let alone anyone leaving.
so what we can conclude is that Europeans here are here to work and that there still arent enough to fill the job vacancies we have
that wont please all those angry leavers that want them out
Watched it last night. Interesting and disturbing at the same time.
The woman admits to having voted Brexit previously - and now that it looks as if she will not have enough people to take advantage of to earn a living - she says she would now vote differently.
Is this the reason why big business is also in favour of remaining in the EU? to have access to cheap labour to exploit??
Parasites!
In the company I work for, no one earns £10 or more per hour.
How much does your MD earn?
milton keynes seems based on foreign labour. The warehouses are seasonal so the demand for housing pushes the prices way up. Many hire em and fire em agencies here are foreign staffed, geared towards younger immigrants that can survive on 3days work a week, and work hard constantly.
The supermarkets may offer some stability jobwise, but the wages are barely above minimum wage.
So unless you have someone to share the rent with, your room to rent will cost 3days wages every week. And no, social security doesnt cover it