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Having ripped all our CD collection and put it on a NAS, I'm left with hundreds of the buggers.
What is the bets way to get rid?
preferably to get some money back for them
is musicmagpie OK?
Keep them as a backup?
Otherwise face getting back circa 1-2% of purchase price...
Bring them this way. I've started buying them again recently for some reason.
I may be interested depends what you have?
Frisbee?
I buy off Music Magpie's ebay sales, great value. They'd probably give you 50p for the good ones!
Noting that your ripped collection is illegal (if you're in the UK). Only the original CDs are legit, though you have to play them and not the copies.
This despite the ability to copy music about in digital format, store in the cloud etc. Still no provision in UK copyright law for this, including shifting formats for personal use, despite many attempts to try. Reason why? Industry pressure.
Anything good?
[quote=deadkenny ]Noting that your ripped collection is illegal (if you're in the UK). Only the original CDs are legit, though you have to play them and not the copies.
This despite the ability to copy music about in digital format, store in the cloud etc. Still no provision in UK copyright law for this, including shifting formats for personal use, despite many attempts to try. Reason why? Industry pressure.
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/12021607/Why-in-2015-is-ripping-CDs-still-illegal-in-the-UK.html
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Which is all fine, but one of the reasons why it persists is people like the OP who want to sell on the IP whilst keeping a copy of it for their own use! That will never become legal, which is one of the reasons updating the law to allow reasonable use is difficult.
I've put all my cds into a wallet and thrown away the cases, now I don't mind keeping them
I'll probably end up doing the same with my dvds, they're not with doing anything else with
I scanned a few into magpie, they were coming up 10p, 30p etc most of them were in cracked cases, probably had the odd scratch and gave up on the idea.
They went in the recycling in the end. Not all of them straight away. They're fun to microwave }:-)
What [b]wukfit[/b] said. That's exactly what I've done. Any duff ones I've donated to the community allotment so they can string 'em up as bird scarers.
They're fun to microwave }:-)
What happens?
I gave them away, 300 odd, to a fellow STW'r. I sometimes wonder what he made of some of them 🙂
See of a charity shop wants them, or sell as a job lot at a car boot sale or something?
I had pretty good results from Musicmagpie a few years ago - £5-6 for some rarer CDs (OK they cost £20 in the first place…). But that's Drexciya not Celine Dion so depends what you got. Worth checking though.
Charity shops maybe or in my case my parents do churchy things that raise money selling stuff and welcome CDs. Though think they don't sell well, whereas they still sell DVDs.
Not that I give them my CDs. They're kept as my ultimate backup, plus I like the covers and inlays of some of them. Likewise my old vinyl stuff despite nothing to play them on now.
List 'em up..!
I have an ongoing addiction to buying interesting music (18 albums in the last 2 weeks).
Noting that your ripped collection is illegal (if you're in the UK). Only the original CDs are legit, though you have to play them and not the copies.This despite the ability to copy music about in digital format, store in the cloud etc. Still no provision in UK copyright law for this, including shifting formats for personal use, despite many attempts to try. Reason why? Industry pressure.
Like anyone gives a rats ass about people ripping the CD's that [i]they've[/i] bought, thus paying the artist's the royalties due to them, then selling the CD's on, which is not, and never has been illegal.
Show me a single case where someone has been successfully prosecuted for ripping their CD's, then selling the discs.
I continue to buy CD's, and rip them, just in case of a total storage disaster, plus I enjoy getting them signed by the artists after gigs.
And I refuse to store my music in the cloud, because of the compromise in quality, the same with streaming, which pays artists an insulting pittance
List 'em up..!I have an ongoing addiction to buying interesting music (18 albums in the last 2 weeks).
if youre interested, and as this isnt a FS classified, i hope nobody minds me listing whats left of my collection. feel free to make an offer for anything you like the look of......
my cd's
Kasabian - velociraptor
Wildhearts - earth vs wildhearts
Live lounge vol 2
Punk - various 2 cd box set
The music - strength in numbers
The enemy - live and die in these towns
Pixies - doolittle
Rage against the machine - RATM
PIL - this is PIL
Killing joke - killing joke
Ramones - best of the chrysalis years
Six by seven - if symptoms persist kill your doctor
The coral - the coral
Inspiral carpets - life
Live lounge vol 3
Carter usm - love album
Pop will eat itself - wise up suckers
Yeah yeah yeahs - fever to tell
Big deal - lights out
And you will know us by the trail of dead - lost songs
Stereophonics - decade in the sun
Six by seven - love and peace and sympathy
Ash - nu-clear sounds
At the drive in - relationship of command
Six by seven - any colour so long as its black
The music - the last dance - 2cd + dvd
The strokes - is this it
The music - welcome to the north
Therapy - troublegum
Happy mondays - pills n thrills n bellyaches
Sound of the city - punk various
Pogues - rum sodomy and the lash
The hives - your new favourite band
Placebo - without you im nothing
And you will know us by the trail of dead - source tags and codes
Killing joke - pandemonium
The best anthems ever - 2 cd indie
Carter usm - post historic monsters
Stranglers - no more heroes
Foo fighters - greatest hits
Primal scream - xtrmntr
Carter usm - 101 damnations
The music - the music
The ruts - something that i said
Campag velocet - bon chic bon genre
Live lounge vol 4
And you will know us by the trail of dead - century of self
Carter usm - 30 something
Sultans of ping fc - casual sex in the cineplex
Senseless things - first of too many
Joy division - substance
White stripes - elephant
Manic st preachers - forever delayed - greatest hits
Six by seven - b sides bootleg 1
Six by seven - b sides bootleg 2
Six by seven - b sides bootleg 3
Ikara colt - modern apprentice
22-20s - 22-20s
Six by seven - 04
**** me USA - (six by seven side project)
Six by seven - the things we make
Dead kennedys - fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
Rage against the machine - ghost of tom joad (cd + live vhs tape)
The macc lads - dirty cd, chips n gravy
Republica - republica
Ikara colt - chat and business
Six by seven - artists cannibals poets thieves
Six by seven - the way i feel today
Six by seven - club sandwich at the peveril hotel (signed)
Six by seven - left luggae at the peveril hotel (signed)
Six by seven - the closer you get
wifes cds
Dido - no angel
Bridget jones - edge of reason soundtrack
Radio 1s live lounge
Madonna - music
Pink - im not dead
Now 75
Now 67
Adele - 19
Christina aguilera - stripped
Robbie williams - life thru a lens
Wham - the final (cd + dvd)
Now 71
Paul simon - graceland
Duffy - rockferry
Ed sheeran
Busted live
Radio 1 - established 1967
Nelly furtado - loose
Pink - greatest hits so far
George ezra - wanted on voyage
Now thats what i call feel good
Bruno mars - unorthodox jukebox
Keep calm and chill out
Very best of school disco.com
Take that - beautiful world
Robbie williams - in and out of consciousness
Robbie williams - sing when youre winning
I ‘heart’ you - romantic slush
Sash - best of
Pink - 4 cd boxset
Eagles - best of
Tom petty and heartbreakers - greatest hits
Dido - life for rent
Buddy holly - the original master tapes
Cd singles
Carter usm - only living boy in new cross
Carter - lean on me i wont fall over
Carter - rubbish
Flowered up - weekender
Pop will eat itself - ich bin ein auslander
Carter - lenny and terence
Carter - glam rock cops
Carter - do re mi
Carter - impossible dream
22-20s - latest heartbreak live ep
Pulp - lipgloss
Primal scream - acclrtr
Six by seven - IOU love X 2 with different b sides
Carter - after the watershed
22-20s - why dont you do it for me
Sultans of ping - wake up and scratch me
Manic st preachers - you love us
Six by seven - 2 and a half days in love with you
Six by seven - bochum
Wildhearts - caffeine bomb
DVDs
Something about mary
Keeping mum
Pixies dvd
Super
Coyote ugly
Paddy mc guinness - all star balls ups
Harry hill in hooves - live
American beauty
Accidental husband
The full monty
Shirley valentine
50 shades of grey
Bridesmaids
Fight club
Once upon a time in america
Fawlty towers series 1&2
Salt
Seven
Scum
Mickey flanagan - back in the game
Unknown
Role models
Paranormal activity 2
Harry brown
Hangover pt 2
Psychoville
The filth and the fury - sex pistols
Night at the museum
Bronson
Catherine tate show
Cape fear
Inglorious bastards (original)
The usual suspects
Mickey flanagans detour de france
Plunkett and mcleane
Mistresses series 2
Bridget jones diary
Weeds - season 1
Fast and furious
2 fast 2 furious
Fast and the furious - tokyo drift
War of the worlds
Ross kemp in afghanistan
The nightmare before christmas
We’re the millers
Rage against the machine - live at the grand olympic auditorium
Taken 2
Yeah yeah yeahs - tell me what rockers to swallow
Elf
Mickey flanagan - the out out tour
Bridget jones - the edge of reason
Ramones - raw
The music - live at blank canvas
Rise of the footsoldier
Killing joke - XXV gathering
Desperate housewives - complete first series
22-20s - shoot your gun
wifes cdsDido - no angel
Really ? Shirley no ladiez cd collection would be without this.. so you have a choice..
Anywayz..
It's all about scaring our bird population Shirley...
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Therapy - troublegum
Pixies - doolittle
Yes please!
Find out... you know you want to...
Dunno that shoving CDs into the Rayburn is gonna have quite the same effect?
Six by Seven are the only band that I might be interested in that I haven't already got out of that little lot, and I was never as fond of them as I was of Dark Star, (not the current electro interlopers).
Post up your address and we can each send you a SAE for a lucky dip return! Or keep them of course...
On second thoughts, only up for that if I could opt out of your wife's collection... 😉
@bodgy - ah Rayburn, the thinking mans Aga. 😉
CDs in a microwave, it's like contained lightening - forks all over the disc for a few seconds and makes sounds like cracking thunder.
Childish fun.
@ sadexpunk
Boo - would have had Pixies + Therapy. That'll teach me not to be online when the list went up..!!
Yes please to:
Ikara Colt - Chat and Business
Ikara Colt - Modern Apprentice
Carter USM - 30 Something
Sultans of Ping - Casual
Tenner posted?
I gave them away, 300 odd, to a fellow STW'r. I sometimes wonder what he made of some of them
*waves*
Finally finished ploughing through them last week. Have kept about 80 to play on my cd player, ripped the whole lot onto my laptop/usb stick to play in the car and the rest to music magpie.
Donation made to anti-FGM work as promised, which I hope is ok.
Main issue is, my kids are playing Beach Boys every ****ing time they get in the car, so thanks for that 😉
Post up your address and we can each send you a SAE for a lucky dip return! Or keep them of course...
obv i cant post up my address, so can anyone who wants anything email me please and we'll get them sent off to you.
Six by Seven are the only band that I might be interested in that I haven't already got out of that little lot,
my favourite band, collected everything of theirs, and wasnt expecting anyone to want those, but lets not be sentimental eh? 🙁 i never play the cds anyway, its all deezer these days.
Tenner posted?
yes mate, as above, email in profile.
On second thoughts, only up for that if I could opt out of your wife's collection..
😆
EDIT: just seen i got a PM email about them, forgot about that method of contact, so that may be easier.
I'm back into buying them, not wholesale but just one or two now and then. (HMV £5 usually)
Unless you're ripping to a lossless format they're better sounding and I like having the case, artwork, notes a bit like the appeal of vinyl but without the vinyl faff.
Glue them into stacks with resin and then use a lathe to create drinkng vessels 😉
Its even more illegal to have all the ripped mp3 files and not the original discs
Illegal? As in prosecutable? Crikey. I'll delete the files post-haste.
If it's "even more illegal" is it like the difference between murder and manslaughter?
post em up OP!
Sadexpunk: can i take "Placebo - Placebo - without you im nothing"?
*waves*
Finally finished ploughing through them last week. Have kept about 80 to play on my cd player
80? I'm surprised it was that many 🙂
Donation made to anti-FGM work as promised, which I hope is ok.
Perfect
Main issue is, my kids are playing Beach Boys every **** time they get in the car, so thanks for that
They have taste 🙂
The only CDs that are really worth anything are compilations (as they don't all exist on streaming services). Club mix Cds particularly.
My MM sale raised a few hundred but still feel a wrench having got ride of them. Taking them out of jewel cases lowers the value even more.
Keep them!
People are rabidly buying up original vinyl now, who ever predicted that?
I know of people prosecuted for having mp3 files on laptops but not having the cds
so jest if you like
I've kept all my CDs, some are rare (less than 50/100 copies type stuff, limited edition covers, signed by the artist etc) so they are worth something. And worth keeping.
Anything that isn't rare simply isn't worth the effort of selling and traipsing to the post office for. So i've kept them too.
I'm not short of space to store them, so it's something of a non-issue.
Sadexpunk: can i take "Placebo - Placebo - without you im nothing"?
is that placebo-placebo PLUS without you im nothing, or just the latter? and yes, you want to email me your details?
Keep them!People are rabidly buying up original vinyl now, who ever predicted that?
Is what I was thinking - a decent vinyl album (ie, good condition sleeve etc) is now worth £10/£15 a go even for run of the mill stuff. I am glad I kept all mine.
I know of people prosecuted for having mp3 files on laptops but not having the cds
Who?
sadexpunk - ygm
This is clearly illegal. I cannot believe this is being discussed on here in such an open way and that this forum is acting as a market place for this activity.
Keep the CDs if you want the music, or delete the files if you want to move the on.
This is clearly illegal. I cannot believe this is being discussed on here in such an open way and that this forum is acting as a market place for this activity.
Only some of what people are doing above is unlawful. Selling and buying CDs is fine, so that's hardly an issue.
The only question is the retention of ripped files once the CDs are sold. That's for the sellers to concern themselves with, and not the issue of the buyers or the forum owners (since the transactions happening via the forum are lawful).
The only question is the retention of ripped files once the CDs are sold. That's for the sellers to concern themselves with, and not the issue of the buyers or the forum owners (since the transactions happening via the forum are lawful).
Yes, which is why I said if you want to sell them on then you should delete the rip of them.
He clearly stated he was selling the CDs because he had ripped the files and this is illegal. The retention of the files and the fact that he's selling the cds because he has a copy.
Keep seeing this word
illegal
Source?
[quote=CountZero ]Like anyone gives a rats ass about people ripping the CD's that they've bought, thus paying the artist's the royalties due to them, then selling the CD's on, which is not, and never has been illegal.
Ripping is fine IMHO - as you point out you've already paid for the IP. Selling CDs on is also fine (and unlike ripping is legal). However ripping and then selling on the CD isn't fine, because you are then depriving the artist of royalties. As I pointed out before, one of the significant reasons why the law isn't relaxed to allow ripping of CDs that you own is the prevalence of people then selling on the CDs.
Maybe this will help you understand the question better:
[url= https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/illegal ]Illegal[/url]
Anyway, I will be deleting copies of any material I am holding incorrectly.
Someone to throw them and:
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Some of the collection
Please don't judge 😯
Amelia Jane Collection
Andrea Bocelli - Amore
Andrea Bocelli - Concerto: One Night In
Andrea Bocelli - Opera
Barbra Streisand - Back to Broadway
Barbra Streisand - The Essential Barbra St
Barry Gibb - Guilty Too
Bee Gees - Still Waters
Best Friends
Black Eyed Peas - Monkey Business
Blue - All Rise
Blue - One Love
Bon Jovi - Keep the Faith
Bruce Hornsby - Harbor Lights
Bryan Adams - Anthology
Bryan Adams - Waking Up The Neighbours
C & C Music Factory - Gonna Make You Sweat
Carrack, Paul - Blue Views
Cher - Love Hurts
Chicago - The Ultimate Collection
Clannad - Anam (1990)
Clannad - Legend
Clannad - Sirius
Crowded House - Recurring Dream: the Ver
Darren Hayes - Spin
David "Fathead" Newman - Anastasia
Del Amitri - The Best Of Del Amitri: Hat
Donny Osmond - From Donny...With Love
Donny Osmond - Somewhere In Time
Duran Duran - Duran Duran (The Wedding)
Elton John - Love Songs
Elvis Presley - Christmas Hits: 50 Festive songs
Evanescence - The Open Door
Fatboy Slim - Youve Come A Long Way, Baby
Gary Moore - Ballads & Blues 1982-1994
George Michael - Older
George Michael - Twenty Five
Hannah Montana - Hannah Montana Original
Heart - Brigade
Houghton, Steven - Steven Houghton
Il Divo - Ancora
Il Divo - Siempre
Il Divo - Wicked Game
Inxs - Greatest Hits
James and the Giant Peach
James Brown - Sex Machine - The Very Bes
Janet Jackson - Design Of A Decade 1986/
Jedward - Planet Jedward
Jedward - Victory
Jimmy Nail - Big River
Jimmy Nail - Growing Up in Public
Joe Mcelderry - Classic
John Lee Hooker - Healer
Josh Groban - Awake
Jovi, Bon - These Days
Justin Timberlake - Future Sex / Love So
Kennedy, Brian - A Better Man
Manilow, Barry - Ultimate Live
Marx, Richard - Repeat Offender
Mary Archer - Christmas Carol - Mary Arc
Maverick Sabre - Lonely are the Brave
Michael Bolton - Soul Provider
Michael Buble - Christmas [Special Editi
Michael Buble - Crazy Love
Michael Jackson - Dangerous
Mika - Life in Cartoon Motion
Mike & The Mechanics - Word Of Mouth
Mike & The Mechanics - Word Of Mouth
Oasis - (Whats The Story) Morning Glory?
Oasis - Be Here Now
Oasis - Stop the Clocks
Oleta Adams - Circle Of One
P!nk - Funhouse
P!nk - P!nk Box
Paul Carrack - A Different Hat
Poison - Open Up and Say... Ahh!
Prince & the New Power Generation - Diam
Richard Marx - Rush Street
Robbie Williams - Life Thru A Lens (UK Re
Roxette - Tourism
Roxettet - Look Sharp!
Russell Watson - The Ultimate Collection
Ryan Dan - RyanDan
S Club Juniors - Together
Savage Garden - Affirmation
Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
Silver Sword
Simply Red - Life
Snap - The Madmans Return (3rd Edition)
Stereophonics - Performance And Cocktails
Take That - Beautiful World
Take That - Everything Changes
Take That - Nobody Else
Take That - Take That and Party
Technotronic - Body to body (1991)
The Corrs - Talk On Corners
The Goo Goo Dolls - Dizzy Up The Girl
The Verve - Urban Hymns
Thunder - Laughing On Judgement Day
Tom Jones - 24 Hours
Tom Jones - Duets
Tom Jones - Kiss
Tom Jones - Mr Jones
Tom Jones - Reload - Tom Jones - Duets
Travis - The Man Who
Various - 100% Acid Jazz
Various - Best Rave Anthems Ever
Various - Chilled R&B - Smooth Classics
Various - Now Dance 97
Various - Sisters of Swing
Various - The Best Of James Bond: 30th Anniversary
Various - The Very Best Of Disney
Various Artists - Floorfillers Classics
Various Artists - Now Thats What I Call music
Various Artists - Now Thats What I Call Music
Various Artists - Pop Party 3
Various Artists - Sisters of Swing Vol.2
Various Artists - Tapestry Revisited
Various Artists - The Twilight Saga: New Moon
Various - Ultimate Disney Princess
Please don't judge
Wow, that is some collection. Surely the Jedward will be collectors items one day?!
However ripping and then selling on the CD isn't fine, because you are then depriving the artist of royalties.
This is a murky one in my opinion. What if you're giving it away or selling it for peanuts to somebody who wouldn't buy it normally. You've deprived nobody as there wouldn't have been a sale.
I sold all my CD's and have them all ripped. I've also received free digital download with vinyl. Now I've sold or given away the vinyl do you seriously think I'm going to delete the digital version? Same thing with digital versions of movies that come with blu-ray.
Rich_s - Member
Maybe this will help you understand the question better:
Illegal
In UK law there's no distinction between making private copies and piracy and it's considered a potential criminal offence. Not to mention it is an infringement of copyright under copyright law.
Breach of the law.
The act of doing it may be considered criminal, or overlooked but then left down to the copyright holder to defend their IP in a civil case.
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Admin/2015/2041.html
"The Court hereby declares that the making of private copies of musical and other copyright works without consent, in the circumstances purportedly authorised by the Regulations, constitutes and has continued since 1 October 2014 to constitute an infringement of copyright".
And goes on to reference the word illegal. Argue that if you like with the lawyers and justices referenced in that case.
http://www.cps.gov.uk/legal/h_to_k/intellectual_property_crime/#a02
All said, it's been long known that there's virtually no prosecution, if any at all to making private copies. Making copies and selling on the original is another matter though again prosecutions are probably nil except those who've bought CDs, ripped them and then go share or sell the MP3s.
Surely the Jedward will be collectors items one day?!
the daughter, I did say please don't judge.
and are we all really getting uptight at the fact that most of these on music magpie are worth all of 20p!!!!
looking at that list i do not see myself and vortexracing in competition with each other for sales.....
Awful list just awful 😉
I'll take the oasis and verve albums if you're willing to post em. Mail in profile 🙂
[quote=funkmasterp ]Now I've sold or given away the vinyl do you seriously think I'm going to delete the digital version?
No, I don't expect you are 🙄
How about this for morals? - You buy a CD on Amazon that you're going to give as a gift, don't tick the gift box and they send you the free digital download version also, which you keep a copy of 😀
Then, deadkenny, you will burn in hell for eternity with me. At least you'll have somebody to talk bikes with 🙂
Right, I'm off to search through my hard drives to try and remember which albums I bought as digital from Bandcamp and other sources and which I need to delete in order to appease the Gods. Can I keep copies of the ones I gave to charity?
All said, it's been long known that there's virtually no prosecution, if any at all to making private copies. Making copies and selling on the original is another matter though again prosecutions are probably nil except those who've bought CDs, ripped them and then go share or sell the MP3s
Exactly. Yes, the law exists, but is essentially unenforceable, the only time anyone is likely to get busted is if they're file-sharing illegally over torrent sites.
his is clearly illegal. I cannot believe this is being discussed on here in such an open way and that this forum is acting as a market place for this activity.Keep the CDs if you want the music, or delete the files if you want to move the on.
Yes, which is why I said if you want to sell them on then you should delete the rip of them.He clearly stated he was selling the CDs because he had ripped the files and this is illegal. The retention of the files and the fact that he's selling the cds because he has a copy.
Since when has it been your business what people do with their CD's, ripped files, etc?
It's nothing to do with you, and you come across as a finger-wagging busybody, lecturing people on what, in essence, nobody really cares about, despite there being laws against it on the statute books. 🙄
I've got 200Gb of music on my computer, and hundreds of CD's, and there are a lot that don't match up, if I got rid of all of my CD's, I'd still keep the files, because there are many I've downloaded as well as ripped ones.
And it's not for you to lecture me on the rights and wrongs, so, with respect, butt out!
I've got 200Gb of music on my computer, and hundreds of CD's, and there are a lot that don't match up, if I got rid of all of my CD's, I'd still keep the files, because there are many I've downloaded as well as ripped ones.
And it's not for you to lecture me on the rights and wrongs, so, with respect, butt out!
Ooh! That's three of us doomed now. Look at us with our loose morals and blatant disregard for the law. It's like the wild west in here 😀
Edit - and the OP too
[quote=CountZero ]Since when has it been your business what people do with their CD's, ripped files, etc?
I presume it's also none of anybody else's business if you go out shoplifting or nicking other people's bikes?
who gives a damn if he rips it then sells the cd on? i couldn't give a rats ass what happens. as for artists losing their royalties , yes if there only up and coming but i don't think ed sheeran or taylor swift are going to miss a few mill here or there. they already have more than enough than they need in one lifetime.
Room for another one down below?