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Bloody hell. Something about our Kugas transmission has lunched itself. Cant get it into reverse, moving it into gear rattles like a bucket of bolts in a tin can - DMF and linkage maybe?
luckily it happened as Mrs K approached the garage so I was able to push it in backward, no recovery needed.
Sigh, this is going to be Spendy! The local private friendly garage is 150m around the corner so ill get them to diagnose on Monday. Se whether a 10yo kuga is BER.
Just a moan really, but if anyone knows an approx cost for patent parts - DMF, Gearbox, clutch etc Id appreciate the knowledge guide.
ssssh, the clutch is the only thing not changed on the galaxy, I don't want it to be contagious...
We're the other way. Got an 02 Corolla that just won't die... or even fail an MOT (passed first time again today).
It's dented and scuffed all over on the outside, is filthy on the inside, doesn't get any tlc really and the EML and airbag lights are on all year until I manage to cancel them before the mot.
Another year of cheap but horrible motoring ahead.
Good luck!
Its odd, we just had the “well, its a bit old maybe we should put the money toward a new one” conversation. Doesnt work though. Cant sell the car witout a gearbox, and a new car costs more than said gearbox I suspect...
just got to suck it up.
I feel your pain. MOT monday coming up for me....
Thing is, even if it costs up to a grand for the repair(worst case scenario) ,how much is a new car? Which is the cheapest option?
I run my cars into the ground. 🙂
Assuming it’s a manual, in which sounds like you just need the gear selection cables adjusting. Simply job to do yourself.
Thing is, even if it costs up to a grand for the repair(worst case scenario) ,how much is a new car? Which is the cheapest option?
Quite. And any decision on a new vehcle would need this one as a deposit/trade. Just had new disks, brakes and tyres too!
Same here, my c-max is well into bangernomics territory now.
It needs new pads and disks up front, a new windscreen, a replacement steering rack (that or kingpins but the rack is supposedly the weak link), and has an electrical fault (or two) which will probably at least mean a new alternator.
Thing is, do I spend all that £££ and end up with a car worth less than I just spent on it. Or buy something else and hope potentially spend more fixing someone elses problem!
"Just got to suck it up"
Yep. Cars ain't free.
"Thing is, do I spend all that £££ and end up with a car worth less than I just spent on it."
Yes. Cars aren't an asset, they are a service. You pay the maintenance, you use the service. Look at the yearly cost of ownership. If you need to spend £3k a year on repairs, then it's not good - if you spend £200 a year on repairs, it's good. Make no difference how much someone else likes it.
This is the thing. Its probably worth £5/6k, but without a gearbox nothing. In real life terms its seen us through 9 years of two young kids and is perfect for school runs, getting dirty parked in rugby/cycling event fields and has the Haldex 4wd just in case the help to get out those fields if needed.
Therefore its worth as much to us as. Utiity vechicle. Paying for this repair means it needs to be kept longer - and why not, the mechanics will have pretty much all been replaced afer 63k miles. Its a no brainer to get it fixed and keep it, the only thing that bothers me is I promised Mrs K a new car. I know she’d like one alhough she says shes not bothered about keeping this. Stiil, wed saved to get our upstairs revamped this year and we both agree thats the priority.
Anyway i popped out and had a play. Engine off it goes in every gear except reverse so perhaps its not as bad as first thought. Booked into the friendly garage on Tuesday so we’ll find out then.
Wanting new cars is a completely different thing to the economics of running an old one. Don't confuse the two. If she wants one and you can afford it then she has to decide if it's justifiable and then shell out, as you would with a new sofa or telly or anything else. If not, then you look at fixing the old one.
Keep it, it’s a utility vehicle and you know it’s history.
Sounds fixable, don’t fret. You’ll need to take the kids in your car for a while, that might sting a bit :-))
Luckily i need mine for the Gorrick tomorrow*, so Mrs K is taking jnr to a rugby tournamant in Nannys 67 plate full spec X1 😀
* may need a push out of muddy minleys field.
£2300!
I don't properly understand the technical but the top shaft with all the gears on collapsed onto the bottom shaft with gears on, things broke, flew around and it died. Flywheel has teeth missing, there's metal pieces everywhere, and as its 10 years into school runs we may as well change the clutch while it all in pieces.
Well, I'll be keeping this for while longer!
Ouch .
Those bearings will have been whining like a banshee
Probably the same one the garage quoted on.
Add in flywheel and clutch plus labour I can see the cost tallying up
Tally's up even closer if they are using a recon unit mind you
I'd be tempted to see what you can sell it for with a lunched gearbox.
you may find someone will decide it's worth N where N+£2300 is more than you'd get sellign it repaired.
Repairs on old cars don;t add value, they just maintain it.
Its a recon gearbox going back in.
Price includes starter motor as well which was going anyway. There's no point having it all off for the clutch a second time.
This we'll have it for a year as bangernomics then sell it with a nearly new drivetrain someone else doesn't have to worry about. As a vehicle, it remains useful to use and recently has new brakes & tyres so its good to go (or will be) for a while.
I’d be tempted to see what you can sell it for with a lunched gearbox.
Although we might get a similar car for that value, we know the (full) history of ours as we've had it from new. No point with all the new stuff on it.
Yep it's the DMF and starter motor that kills you on those Fords. My Focus wasn't worth anything like that when I suspected that clutch/DMF and starter were on the fritz, so I limped it to the dealership and traded the bugger in sharpish.
Are you sure a 10-year-old Kuga is worth that much?
"Keep it, it’s a utility vehicle and you know it’s history."
Rarely is a greengrocer's apostrophe so serendipitously misplaced.
Blimey, that's not good mate. 🙁
Just bought one of the most expensive cars I've bought in years for £50 less than that. Lol
Are you sure a 10-year-old Kuga is worth that much?
Yep, Autotrader shows cars £4,500 to £7000 from 76k miles to 146k miles. Ours has 63k miles, one owner, FSH, new brakes, tyres...
Still keep it, you certainly know it’s history now...
Not a bad little car the Kuga.
Not sure about apostrophe comment, clearly I’m missing something.
Second it's should be an its.
May as well keep it. Buying any used car is a lottery and could easily cost you more than £2k in repairs if someones covered something up.
It's great how gearboxes nowadays are sealed for life units, with magical oil that lasts forever...
I honestly don't know how manufacturers get away with this.
I don't know about the Kuga specifically, but I was looking into a BMW a while back which was starting to give bother with it's sealed for life autobox at about 70K.
ZF, who make the box, recommend an oil change at about 50,000 miles iirc
Not sure about apostrophe comment, clearly I’m missing something.
"Its" is the possessive pronoun - the ungendered equivalent of "his" and "hers"
"It's" is a shortening of "It is"
It appears (from the context) that you were trying to say that that he knows the history of the car.
What you actually said was that his car is history.
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One of the first things I did with my new to me car was have the gearbox and diff oil changed.
Bummer Kryton...
We are now into keeping it going until it dies (our car is £800 on we buy any car...), but also managing to ferret away what we would pay on a loan or lease for a new car. So every month = one month less payment on a new one.
It will wipe savings should it die though 🙁
Well its fixed.
It seem the Ford Starter motor issue is the main cause. But we've missing teeth from the flywheel and gears 1/2 as a result of everything collapsing in on itself.
Recon box was £900, can't remember the rest but flywheel, starter motor and clutch (original 10yo) replaced, labour £300 all came to £2384, miraculously almost the same as the anticipated deposit for the replacement should we have gone the PCP route.
With recent new brakes and tyres and anticipated 6000 miles a year at least its good to go for the next few years!
at least its good to go for the next few years!
Never say that! They can hear you!
at least its good to go for the next few years!
Jinxed it.