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Ok, you can call me a vindictive b'stard if you like. But im getting pretty hacked off with a car that appeared in front of our house 2 weeks ago and hasn't moved since.
Im annoyed because I've had a load of stuff that I've had to cart down the road to get into our car and I've had to wash our car from several spaces down from the house.
Its no biggie in the great scheme of things I know, and I've no entitlement to the space in front of our house either, but its bloody inconvenient.
Im probably being paranoid, but having had a neighbour at a previous address keep his car in front of our house (swapping with his other cars as and when when he wanted to use it) for well over a year, this is starting to aggravate old wounds.
So I remembered the thread where you can check peoples cars to see when they were last MOT'd ([url= https://mot-history.net/ ]https://mot-history.net/[/url]), the mileage and any advisories. So this car has had not MOT since July, 3 months ago! Its taxed until next year.
So im now wondering if it has been abandoned. Unlike most cars, there is NOTHING personal visible inside it apart from a container of oil, no bits of paper, no sweetie wrappers, USB cables, CDs, sunglasses, nothing. Which strikes me as a little unusual.
My understanding is a car should not be kept on a public road if it has no MOT, even if it's taxed and insured. So what do I do? What can I do? Report it? Strip it spares? Sell it as spares or repair?
Report it as potentially abandoned, let the police find out whether it actually is or not. Could be stolen for all you know, you might be doing the owners a favour.
Set fire to it. Maybe
Steal it, rob a bank, use it as get away and then torch it.
OP I saw a car being towed for no tax the other day. From what I know you only need road tax to park on the street, no mot or insirance required. As above call the police and report it as abandoned although it would have to have been there for more than a week or two IMO
First world problems eh.
I ran my Mazda from May to the end of September this year without MOT, easy to do when you don't get a reminder and it's out of synch with tax and insurance, only noticed when I needed to tax it. I can see how it can be annoying, but I wouldn't read any more into it.
As usual Cougar speaks the most logical sense. I might a bit longer, until after the school holidays have finished.
As I said its no biggie, just irritating.
We only moved in two months ago and were rather enjoying the lack of parking hassles, being further out of town than before.
No MOT no insurance, your a star.
Contact the police, there may be other reports that you can't publicly access and it might be removeable either immediately, if stolen for example, or under civic amenities legislation
Pawsy_Bear - MemberNo MOT no insurance, your a star.
Not sure what you mean about being a star though?
report it on the dot.gov website, i have to pay for an mot/car tax/insurance.
it could well be abandoned, or stolen.
No MoT shouldn't be on the road, even if parked.
Obviously the no mot thing is dependent on the website being correct.
So mot = no insurance, which means it shouldn't even be on the road?
From what I know you only need road tax to park on the street, no mot or insirance required.
It's illegal to have a car taxed and not insured.
Hasn't that website already been shown to have unreliable information? It only shows that the info isn't on the website and not that the car doesn't have an MOT.
Best to get in touch with the police to get it sorted out, it might be a terrorist car waiting to be collected for future attacks.
Not you the OP driving around in his Mazda, it's ok though he forgot. It wasn't his fault because no one reminded him. He and we would have found out though if had an accident
As everyone has said, pass it on to the police. They can decide what to do. We don't want any more uninsured drivers adding to the carnage
[quote=bigyinn ]Unlike most cars, there is NOTHING personal visible inside it apart from a container of oil, no bits of paper, no sweetie wrappers, USB cables, CDs, sunglasses, nothing. Which strikes me as a little unusual.Oh.
Not you the OP driving around in his Mazda, it's ok though he forgot. It wasn't his fault because no one reminded him. He and we would have found out though if had an accident
Whut ? 😕
Unlike most cars, there is NOTHING personal visible inside it apart from a container of oil, no bits of paper, no sweetie wrappers, USB cables, CDs, sunglasses, nothing. Which strikes me as a little unusual.
Fwiw, mine always looks like that.
I ran my Mazda from May to the end of September this year without MOT, easy to do when you don't get a reminder and it's out of synch with tax and insurance, only noticed when I needed to tax it. I can see how it can be annoying, but I wouldn't read any more into it.
Yep get it moved , the next car that comes along will just fill the spot when your out.next step is youll be that guy whos cones i will go out my way to drive into when he puts them outside his door when he goes out for the day.
NIMBY!
Unless your are unlucky enough to be in Croydon. The council have sold their car pound as it did not make enough money. Now no cars will be towed away regardless of where they have been abandoned.
It was me driving around in my Mazda, not the OP. I was just saying you shouldn't infer a car is abandoned just because it doesn't have an MOT. Of course that means I wasn't insured to drive it, but that didn't bother me one bit, because I didn't know the MOT had expired. Once I spotted this, I had one done the same day. I'm glad it's now back in synch with the tax reminder though, so I'm less likely to do it again, though more bills in one month.
@trail_rat, I have no expectations about being entitled to park in front of my house, but I resent someone else using to the exclusion of all other residents. I'm not that bothered as I said, but it seems a little suspect, does it not?
midlifecrashes, that threw me a bit, as I've got a Mazda too. I'm thinking, what have I done now?
Of course that means I wasn't insured to drive it, but that didn't bother me one bit, because I didn't know the MOT had expired.
No MOT does not invalidate insurance as people often seem to think.
It may reduce your cover to Third Party only, but you're not driving without insurance.
If that were the case, it would be illegal to drive a non MOT'd car to a pre booked MOT appointment as you would be driving without insurance.
Evening. Put a note on it. Like someone did in Hebden bridge 'hi we volunteer for the local mountain rescue could you park elsewhere and not in front of our house as we need quick access to our car...'.
The note would have been better saying 'hi, we think we own the public highway in front of our rented/bought house. We don't like walking 10m's so could you park on another part of the public road'.
Hi OP, what happened to your car that meant you had to wash it? Maybe I've been lucky but in over 20y I've never had to wash mine. If you want a private parking space, have you though about buying a house with private parking?
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If you live in dawlish it's going tomorrow 😥
Not having a MOT does not automatically invalidate your insurance, although it might complicate a claim. It is however illegal to be on the road. The exception being if its being driven to a MOT station for a pre booked test.
What if its a private street rather than council adopted?
but I resent someone else using to the exclusion of all other resident
when i lived in the city my car frequently wouldnt move for 6-8 weeks at a time - ok it would have an MOT but then according to that mot checker thing my dads van doesnt have an mot - and i can assure you it does.....
When i moved out of the city i did prioritise offstreet parking.
from memory you can post it on the council website fixmystreet. I think it gets listed as an abandoned car and the council are then tasked with sorting. Did this for a car not far from us that sounded similar and it went about a week after I posted it on the site. I think they can look up the owner and contact them. Worth trying.
hora - MemberEvening. Put a note on it. Like someone did in Hebden bridge 'hi we volunteer for the local mountain rescue could you park elsewhere and not in front of our house as we need quick access to our car...'.
The note would have been better saying 'hi, we think we own the public highway in front of our rented/bought house. We don't like walking 10m's so could you park on another part of the public road'.
In case you didnt actually bother to read my original post, I did say that I wasnt that bothered, however, im in the process of re-doing the garden, which will involve the removal of large amounts of shrubbery. I'd rather not have to drag lots of branches etc past everyone else's cars to get it into mine to take to the tip.
FWIW I walk a mile to work from home every day, so it has no real bearing on my life to have to walk a bit further to the car. But don't let that stop you making snap judgements about me. 🙄
As you're dragging the branches, just, kinda, y'know, drag them alongside the car. "Whoops!"
Tempting, but im not about to start wrecking someone's property.
Yet.
Evening. OP really, just the gardening ....oh and the washing the car of course. 🙄
It annoyed you soo much that you had to write a lengthy original post too.. 😉
It was both a mild rant and an information gathering exercise.
You helped with neither, yet you also chose to comment when clearly you had nothing useful to say.
Doors over there >>>>>> Use it.
I find it hard to believe anyone with a car to park wouldn't find it a bit irritating to have a car parked outside their house for 2 weeks.
First world problem an all but definitely an annoyance.
Can't be arsed.
I find it hard to believe anyone with a car to park wouldn't find it a bit irritating to have a car parked outside their house for 2 weeks.
This will blow your mind then... We have [b]two[/b] cars to park, and there is a van that's almost always parked outside our house, apart from late at night (night worker maybe?)
It has honestly never occurred to me that I should be bothered about it. And if I was in the slightest bit itritated by it, I could always move one of ours into the space at night while it's not there. But I never have.
[quote=hora opined]Evening. OP really, just the gardening ....oh and the washing the car of course.
It annoyed you soo much that you had to write a lengthy original post too..
How many times have you moaned on here about parking in your street when match days are on and the like
why you trolling the OP?
Source please my understanding is you can only drive an non MOTed car to the test or garage and you dont have insurance to do thisIt[ no MOT] may reduce your cover to Third Party only, but you're not driving without insurance.If that were the case, it would be illegal to drive a non MOT'd car to a pre booked MOT appointment as you would be driving without insurance.
It has honestly never occurred to me that I should be bothered about it. And if I was in the slightest bit itritated by it, I could always move one of ours into the space at night while it's not there. But I never have.
Not the same. the van comes and goes, I'd assume he's just parking as close as he can to his house when he comes home, perfectly acceptable.
Junkyard we have resident only parking on match days. All of the borough is like this.
From .gov.
"Driving an untaxed vehicle to an MOT test
You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle.
It is absolutely illigal to drive an uninsured car to an mot/on any public road.
Source please my understanding is you can only drive an non MOTed car to the test or garage and you dont have insurance to do this
That would be the Road Traffic Act - fill yer boots!
i like the bank robbery suggestion best! If you do it can you gopro it (but not in the toothbrush way)?
OR.... knock up some little wheels trollies, jack it up and move it a bit further down? ? ???
If I jack the car up it probably wouldn't stop rolling for a bit, as we're on a hill.
Hora I'm trying to be restrained, if you've got nothing useful to add, won't you please just sod off out of this thread? Thanks.
For the avoidance of doubt, I don't care if other people park outside my house. They have as much right to park there as I do. But when a car doesn't move for 16 days and counting, that seems a little odd to me. We're right on the edge of town, about a mile away,so it's unlikely someone has parked there to go on holiday.
Phone the police. I did this when somebody dumped one outside my house and the local scrotes started pulling it apart.
As if by magic it vanished the day after.
I find it hard to believe anyone with a car to park wouldn't find it a bit irritating to have a car parked outside their house for 2 weeks.
Irritating or no, if it's legally parked then you've no redress against people parking on a public road.
Not the same. the van comes and goes, I'd assume he's just parking as close as he can to his house when he comes home, perfectly acceptable.
Nope. I know all my neighbours.
The owner of the van isn't any of them.
No idea where he lives, but it's impossible that outside my house is the closest he can park to where he lives
(Unless he's living in my house, and I've just not spotted him)
[quote=Rich_s opined]Source please my understanding is you can only drive an non MOTed car to the test or garage and you dont have insurance to do this
That would be the Road Traffic Act - fill yer boots!
I was rather hoping neal would answer as I think he is wrong - if you have anything definitive I am happy to read it-Do you or neal?
Source please my understanding is you can only drive an non MOTed car to the test or garage and you dont have insurance to do this
under FSA rules an insurer cannot refuse to pay out because of an expired MOT unless they can prove that: a fault exists that an MOT would have picked up AND that fault contributed to the circumstances that led to the claim.
See trail rats post, you have to have insurance to drive it to the MOT, not having an MOT (or an IVA test certificate, 'tax', or even a numberplate) doesn't invalidate the insurance.
Source - having to do the insurance->MOT->tax dance every year with the MG.
Evening. OP really, just the gardening ....oh and the washing the car of course.It annoyed you soo much that you had to write a lengthy original post too..
Are you starting all your posts with 'evening' for a bet?. 8)
Well a week later and it's STILL there. So thats 3 weeks now.
Had a bit of a nose around it yesterday and there is what appears to be a plastic seat cover in the boot (like mechanics use to cover seats when they're working on it). I wonder if it has had some work done on it and further problems have been discovered?
Im seriously considering reporting it to the police and see what they say.
Owner is perfectly entitied to leave it there as long as it's taxed and not a hazard. 3 weeks isn't that long
report it, they will check and make a decision. If its legit they wont take any action no problems.
Owner is perfectly entitied to leave it there as long as it's taxed and not a hazard. 3 weeks isn't that long
Yes, but the OP isn't that bothered about it as he keeps telling us.
"I was rather hoping neal would answer as I think he is wrong - if you have anything definitive I am happy to read it-Do you or neal?"
what strange logic.....selectively ignoring the facts with sources before asking someone else to justify the same position....
Ok, I'll revise that, Im starting to get bothered.....I've been gardening (i.e. chopping back large overgrown shrubs)...
3 weeks and you still haven't reported it !
Write 'dibbs' on a piece of paper and leave under the wipers for 24hrs. If nobody comes forward it's now legally yours.
Torch it.
Just fill all the air vents with soil and sow some cress or other rapid gowing plant and then admire your new extra garden feature.
Im loving the cress suggestion!
CheesybeanZ - Member3 weeks and you still haven't reported it !
Like I say its more of an irritation at present, Im prepared to give someone some leeway, i.e. gone away on holiday, but its starting to be an annoyance. Mainly because we have to park in front of someone else's house, which then has a cascade effect on everyone else in the street.
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You can report a range of problems by location directly to the correct department in the local council. There is a section for abandoned vehicles.
Can't see it being mentioned previously so what make/model and age of car is it? Does it look looked after? Normally, if it has value, its not likely to be abandoned unless it nicked.
Its a Ford Focus C Max from 2003 I think. Its not ratty in my eyes, theres a few scuffs and marks. Think workhorse rather than thoroughbred!
OP I think you have a perfectly valid gripe and admire your patience.
On the other hand a friend of a friend has a house with a driveway to park their car in but still goes mental when people park in front of their house. So much so that they often park their car in front of the house and borrow a relatives car to go to work in.
At least someone understands where im coming from. I thought I was being over-sensitive at times, but I can blame that on the idiot neighbour from a past residence who insisted on parking his Volvo (that was used for a couple of hours perhaps twice a month) in front of our house for over a year. He would even wait until we'd gone out before swapping it with one of his other cars whilst he used the volvo and then swapping back.
It was a deliberate and spitful act. How do I know this? Because he had a hardstanding space in front of his house, yet still he chose to park the volvo in front of our house.
Thats why im starting to get a little twitchy about this.
I think you have a valid reason for being annoyed.
Not so sure about the neighbour up here, who was roaring at another neighbour for daring to park on "his" bit of road. Doesn't own a car, even if he did own a car he has a driveway.
passes his day i suppose.
You dont need the parking space the car is taking up, so what's the problem? Otherwise:
1. There’s nothing illegal about parking on the road unless the vehicles abandoned
2. If its not legal then the police will take action
Nothing will happen unless you
a. talk to the driver, what I would do
b. report it
I really cant see your problem, talk to the guy or report it.
OP - years ago I left my car to be serviced at the local garage & asked them to pop it back on my drive & drop the key through the letter box when they'd finished, meanwhile I buggered off to Oz for 3 weeks & yep you've guessed the mechanic left it on the road outside my neighbours house, all over xmas & new year too so there might just be a logical explanation
Nothing will happen unless youa. talk to the driver, what I would do
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yeah bigyinn, talk to the driver! Come on man, shape up for goodness sake. There's a war on, you know