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I've got an Audi A1 2.0 Tdi Sline which is coming up for it's car tax renewal.
It's a 13 plate and this will be the first tax I'll put on it.
The DVLA have asked for 20 pounds for 12 months.
The 6 month line has nothing against it (no writing)
If I tax it for 6 months does that mean it's free?
It did qualify for free tax in it's first year.
The 6 month line has nothing against it (no writing)
This means you can't tax it for six months, only a year.
Be VERY grateful your annual [b][u]VED[/u][/b] disc is only £20.
bigyinn - MemberVED
That's what he said, car tax.
It means that they assume that if you can afford the depreciation and other costs of a new car, you can find £10 more to tax it for a whole year.
Hey, it's 20 quid. That's one of the reasons I could afford the car as I don't like to throw money away.
Its £20 pay up, if you get rid of the car claim it back if your that bothered. But my feelings are if you can affored a 2.0l Sline on a 13 plate you can affored to tax it.
VED is a funny thing. I have a ford focus 1.6tdci,my mum has a mazda 3 1.6
both are the same year both have the same engine both put out the same co2 emmisions hers has alloys and is £30 a year mine has steels and is £105 a year.
Hey, it's 20 quid. That's one of the reasons I could afford the car as I don't like to throw money away.
So you bought a new (or very nearly new) car because you don't like to waste money? Seems like an odd thing to do.
iolo - MemberHey, it's 20 quid. That's one of the reasons I could afford the car as I don't like to throw money away.
Well done you! *slow claps*
So you bought a new (or very nearly new) car because you don't like to waste money? Seems like an odd thing to do.
+1
How is it so bloody cheap to tax?
DezB - MemberHow is it so bloody cheap to tax?
Instead of churning out taxable plant food it gives you cancer.
both are the same year both have the same engine both put out the same co2 emmisions hers has alloys and is £30 a year mine has steels and is £105 a year.
Are you really sure about that? VED is based on emissions rather than wheel type.
Found one on autotrader - £20K ! Flippin hell
You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax.
https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables
[i]You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap (under say..£180) to tax[/i]
Wibble
So I'm supposed to find £20K for a car so I can get cheap tax? Then I'd be a ****ing loon.
£20k for a glorified shopping cart!
I'll stick with my £400 Micra.
It's one of the reasons why I can afford to take hot bitches out to expensive restaurants.
ianW - i think youll find all things considered car tax is such a small portion of running costs that you would have to be a loon to be paying back a significant amount of your salary to save the tax....
company cars BIK excepted.
It's one of the reasons why I can afford to take hot bitches out to expensive restaurants.
Kennel Club member?
You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax.
Not really. My car costs well above that but I'm not about to sell it and realise all that depreciation loss to save myself £100 pa. I plan on running it for many years to come.
brassneck - MemberKennel Club member?
You've ruined the subtlety of my mocking.
My 1.7lt Diesel is only £30 to tax
You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax.
So I'm supposed to pay loan interest and £1000s more in depreciation each year to drive a car that costs £200 less per year to tax? You're right I'd have to be a loon not to...
Not following you tr.
Do you mean £2/3/400 a year on tax is a small proportion if your paying £500 a month on finance and a similar amount on fuel?
Suppose that would be true but still qualify someone as a loon in my book, conceded not in everyone's though.
IanW - MemberYou have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax.
That's why I've enjoyed paying less for a pre 2001 5l V8 that does 16mpg than my mate's 2l hatchback. 😈
Expensive way of buying a polo
Do you mean £2/3/400 a year on tax is a small proportion if your paying £500 a month on finance and a similar amount on fuel?
No, he means that for many people, changing cars to one that was newer, more fuel efficient and cost less to tax would cost them far more over their ownership of the car. The idea of total cost over your ownership being more important than cost per month seems to be one that a lot of folk don't get.
Isn't pre 2001 - £270 ?
That would be the exception to my loon criteria.
I didn't buy it for the cheap tax. I bought it because I liked it (insert you could have had a skoda/polo/whatever for 200 quid comments here).
It's a nice drive, runs on fresh air, looks fantastic (in my opinion) and has a quality interior.
It's my uk car so doesn't do much mileage - currently at 3,500.
The reason for my original post was to see if I could get free tax if I taxed 6 months.
[i] £500 a month on finance[/i]
huh? My car is paid for.
The reason for my original post was to see if I could get free tax if I taxed 6 months.
Well if the options were £20 for a year or free for six months wouldn't everyone just go six months at a time for free? Why would they offer that option?
IanW - MemberIsn't pre 2001 - £270 ?
It was about £180 last time I taxed my Jag, must have gone up steeply.
Think it was £145 when I taxed my Micra the other day.
Well if the options were £20 for a year or free for six months wouldn't everyone just go six months at a time for free? Why would they offer that option?
Hence my original post
Hence my original post
They wouldn't. Presumably that's the point at which the admin cost entirely wipes out the money they make from selling you a tax disc and therefore they don't offer it.
My road tax is £260/yr for 2005 Corolla 1.6 auto petrol.
Anyone who is paying less than I do can consider themselves fortunate.
🙄
Robin- tempted to concede the point but it's against the rules so I will suggest that perfectly good cars have been available with under £180 tax per year for longer than most people will run cars( only 20% of cars are over 10 yrs old).
So it may not be sensible to sell them now but it was also the act of a loon to buy them in the first place.
I'll let you google car tax rate history if you don't mind.
the act of a loon to buy them in the first place
Without a doubt, but I love those people because they create a 2nd hand market full of interesting, fun cars that have depreciated away until I can buy and run them at the same overall cost as something superficially far more sensible. 🙂
i mean i spend 300 quid on insurance
i spend 1500 a year on fuel
i spend maybe 3/400 on service and upkeep of the car
but my outlay for the car is zero every year or rather its 3000/X - where X is the number of years owned. so at the moment its cost me 600 a year.
for me to change that to a car thats low/zero rated tax ill be spending 200 quid a month before i even start paying for any of the above.
theres also the small matter of i have not seen many zero rated commercials (my car is infact a van which suits my lifestyle)
Love this thread.
That the OP though that the DVLA were offering the option of paying £20 for 12 months to avoid the hassle of getting it for Free every six months 
Why write 6 months on the form with a box to tick?
The 6 month box just doesn't have a price so looks to be a free option.
If you had the option of paying 20 quid or nothing to the government which would you take?
The government is not a charity.If you had the option of paying 20 quid or nothing to the government which would you take?
What did you think?
It is to some.
Why write 6 months on the form with a box to tick?
Because it's probably not worth the costs to amend a notification to remove a box and then stick rules in where the system issues different letters, for different scenarios.
That's quite a major/costly change, as presently it just happily bangs out the same template to everyone.
£240 a year tax on our 'car' but then it saves us thousands a year on hotels and B&B's. Loon club over here, mind the sheep!
DezB - MemberSo I'm supposed to find £20K for a car so I can get cheap tax?
My car cost £2000 and drops into tax band G, which is the STW-mandated £180 pa. Also costs not very much to insure, carries more bikes than I own, makes about 185bhp and 370lb/ft of torque, and wafts around the country on an effortless wave of smugness
Oh, and is broken down but THAT DOESN'T INVALIDATE A WORD I SAID!
Oh, and is broken down but THAT DOESN'T INVALIDATE A WORD I SAID!
Surely it invalidates [b]carries more bikes than I own[/b] and [b]wafts around the country[/b] and probably also [b]makes about 185bhp and 370lb/ft of torque[/b] if the breakdown is engine related?
Mine's just sat on my driveway, while I waft around on my bike in an effortless (well, maybe the opposite of that) wave of smugness.
( ? mpg on days like this anyway 🙂 )
I think he's trolling everyone on this thread. Seems to have no shortage of biters.
Why write 6 months on the form with a box to tick?
The 6 month box just doesn't have a price so looks to be a free option.
Why leave the space blank in the price was £0.00 ?
Six months x 2 is always more expensive than 12 months.
Use some logic and work it out for yourself.
If you had the option of paying 20 quid or nothing to the government which would you take?
You [b]dont[/b] have that option though do you.
johnners - MemberSurely it invalidates carries more bikes than I own and wafts around the country and probably also makes about 185bhp and 370lb/ft of torque if the breakdown is engine related?
It still carries more bikes than I own, as long as I push it.
(OK, actually, it's not that broken down- it drives, it just smokes like a mother****** so I'm not driving it til that's fixed as I think it caused the smog in London)
But! The point was that cars that are cheaper to tax don't have to be new, expensive, small, gutless or boring.
falkirk-mark - Member
I think he's trolling everyone on this thread. Seems to have no shortage of biters.
Why do you say I'm trolling?
2 words on STW 'car tax' and I am leaving it at that cos you aint trolling me.
Cheers
[i]You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax[/i]
I'm not sure I understand your logic. I have 3 cars, one is 26 years old, one is 12 yaers old and one is 8 years old. They were all paid for a loooong time ago. Are you suggesting I sell them and buy 3 cars with lower co2 so I can save a bit on the VED?
[i]Why write 6 months on the form with a box to tick?[/i]
Are you suggesting that the DVLA have two different forms? Thats doesn't sound very sensible.
You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax.
My car was £200 to tax for a year, even though it gets mid 50s mpg when I drive it. Sucks but as above, the cost is fairly small relative to everything else.
Mainly because it was made before manufacturers started to take the piss on the CO2 rating tests. The real fuel economy figures are very close to what I actually get - on modern 70mpg band B and C cars, they are not.
Anyway - to the OP, you can only buy 12 months for the cheaper cars. I only have the 12 month option for the Prius, but I can't remember what it says on the form.
lilchris
The government is not a charity.
iolo
It is to some.
New/nearly new Audi owners?
Can't believe I fell for this one!
Nearly new Audi owner who worked hard since the age of 16 who is very frugal with his money.
I own a Dacia Duster in Vienna too when I live in my apartment there. There's no tax there. Just a Vignette for the motorways.
IanW - Member
Isn't pre 2001 - £270 ?
That would be the exception to my loon criteria.
Pre March 2006 is capped at £270ish
So again, the government is not a charity.Nearly new Audi owner who worked hard since the age of 16 who is very frugal with his money.
HTH
So if I lived on benefits in a council house with 9 childen and spent all my money on jack daniels and wizz would the government be a charity then?
In the form of £10 for half your annual RFL on a £20k+ Audi?
Not directly, no!
[i]It's my uk car so doesn't do much mileage - currently at 3,500[/i]
Hold on, you spent £20k on a car that you only drive 3,500 miles a year? Am I reading that right, surely not.
"You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax"
I have heard some bollox on this orum down the years but this takes the preverbial biscuit.
knob
In the form of £10 for half your annual RFL
RFL?
R. F. L. ?!?!?
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You were all doing so well...
Edit: just spotted chewkw said [i]"road tax"[/i] too!
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What colours the Audi A1?
We will decide firmly whether it's worth £20 VED or not.
Pics please, ta
I have a car that I don't intend to sell for a very long time.
I decided to buy a car for my needs.
It's not loaned or financed.
When I'm around I use it. When I'm not it's in secure storage.
I expect this car to be used by me for 15 - 20 years so I couldn't care less that I paid around 20k for it as it will cost me approximately 1000 a year or 83 pounds a month. There will be servicing costs. This car will have less than 100,000 miles after 20 years.
Can someone please explain what's wrong in purchasing a car that way?
white with black roof. Give me your email to put it up as I'm confused with flickr
Thanks.You were all doing so well...
It was intentional 😉
[i]white with black roof[/i]
Deep down everyone knew you were going to say that. On the bright side white may be back in fashion in 20 years
I like it. What colour's your car?
Was this thread just an excuse to tell everyone what cars and houses you have ?
I think it must be, I can't believe for a minute you actually didn't know the answer to the question in the OP.
[i]What colour's your car? [/i]
One's blue, one's 'burnt copper', ones gray.
None of which were recent fashionable colours for cars
nealglover - Member
Was this thread just an excuse to tell everyone what cars and houses you have ?I think it must be, I can't believe for a minute you actually didn't know the answer to the question in the OP.
No. Really not. Why would I do that? I'm answering questions. People were going on about spending so much money on the Audi. I explained the financial reason why.
The original question was only to see if I could save 20 quid. That's all.
Is it a hatchback, I like the A1 hatchback they are very nicely put together little cars.
Any way, I try and pay as much "road tax" as possible. That way when I'm out on my bike and someone points out I don' even pay road tax I can point out that actually I pay a more than they do for their diesel shitbox
This is almost as bad as your Range Rover Sport HSE post from a while back.
She bought a Discovery. I prefer my Dacia.
/likes "burnt orange" as a car colour 😀
/not keen on white, but then my Vans white so I suppose I should sucker that up.
/I pay £250 per yr to tax that Van of mine too 😆
peteimpreza - Member
"You have to be a bit of a loon to still have a car that isn't cheap(under say..£180) to tax"
I have heard some bollox on this orum down the years but this takes the preverbial biscuit.
knob
Is that your signature?
No. Really not. Why would I do that? I'm answering questions. People were going on about spending so much money on the Audi. I explained the financial reason why.
Fair enough. Just wondered that's all.
My 24 year old 205 costs about £240 a year to tax, which is about a round of drinks short of what the car cost me. Do I win as worst purchase cost:tax ratio on the thread?