Car stolen off the drive

We have 2 reasonably nice vehicles, one keyless and one not.  We take different approaches to their security.

The keyless one does not have a stoplock.

The keyed one does.

Here's why, if someone is motivated enough they will steal either one no matter what.

If they want the keyless one I would rather they didn't break in and attempt to find the key in one of the many jackets/bags my wife owns and "hides" her keys in, realise they can't find it and then decide to wake us up whilst pointing a sawn off at us...

If they want the keyed one, they are likely breaking in, the big yellow stoplock is hopefully enough deterrent that it means they choose to steel some other poor buggers van.  There is a Metatrack deadlock tracker on this vehicle so i can report it to the police to be told that they don't have the staff...

So if you were to install some sort of kill switch where is best?

Is that to kill the b*****d that tries to steal your car?

I recall not being able to start my old 206 once. It cranked and cranked. It wouldve cranked all day but it never fired.
To my shame when mr AA turned up, it was just a fuse that ran a body systems computer. He said that this paticular computer controls the Engine management, so while it had all the hardware to run, the computer wasnt on.

Im gonna go with that one.

I did investigate getting an imobiliser added onto my transit. I got a quote for one where you need an RFID tag and you wave it at a specific unmarked area of dashboard, and that gave you 5 seconds to turn the ignition before it reset.

Is that to kill the b*****d that tries to steal your car?

Bloke down our road in tbe 70s got so fed up with his viva being broken into he told the police he'd put a poison laced bottle of booze in there to be nicked. They weren't impressed.

Steering wheels used to be very tough, a thickish metal rim (aluminium casting at a guess) covered in some sort of high density PU foam and then the decorative cover.

But they tend to really really really hurt in a crash.

So no, now they are (generally) quite flexible and easy to cut or bend, pretty sure some are now almost completely plastic, almost no core to them at all.

I was not aware of that. Cheers.

Our 2016 Fiesta got nicked a few weeks back, normal key fob button to get in, normal twist of a key to start. Keys were not taken.

Despite the lack of house invasion the 11 year old has had  problems since going upstairs on his own, it really kicked off his ADHD hyper-vigilance. Yay for thieves.

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Yay for thieves.

My heart goes out to him.

It's easy to go "yeah it's insured" and I've said the same countless times myself on threads like these. But being robbed has a mental cost.

It took me years to get over being burgled for a second time. I became scared to leave the house. Holidays filled me with paranoia. I'd return home from work and come into the house Just So to align my sight with the glass in the door so I could see the LED in the front of the PC so was reassured that I probably hadn't been done over again. And I wasn't 11.

Taking aside the extra tech and battery power you’d need for a key that only activated on movement, PIN to drive would be the simplest thing to implement in any new car.

Bloke down our road in tbe 70s got so fed up with his viva being broken into he told the police he’d put a poison laced bottle of booze in there to be nicked. They weren’t impressed.

Picolax is dissolvable, no?

Got a disclock in my garage. We've not used it for years as our cars require the key and are deadlocked anyway, so can't be opened from the inside ! We deliberately got the older model when we bought my wife's car as the newer one was keyless. It's crazy how easy cars have become to steal.

as the owner of cars aged 10, 15 & 45 years old with no experience of keyless entry / starting, what is the problem its trying to solve?

I appreciate more than a whiff of "old man shouts at cloud", but just can't see how pressing key fob / putting key in door / ignition is such a pain

I had something similar in an old Astra. Fake front fog light switch, turn ignition on, press fog switch then start.

Mk2 Astra? Once the most stolen car in the UK. A friend at uni had one, after the third time of it getting taken and dumped at the side of the road with an empty tank he started taking the rotor arm off when it was parked up. They pushed it round the corner and torched it.

as the owner of cars aged 10, 15 & 45 years old with no experience of keyless entry / starting, what is the problem its trying to solve?

Don't shoot me but when I asked this, I was told "handbags, fishing around for keys in handbags"

Putting the key in the door/ignition is a source of key breakages (just generally, and especially in cold markets) and a lot of wear. Also some risk in crashes, depending when the ignition barrel is and how it's mounted (steering lock etc).
Keyless does away with all that.

Replacing the pressing a button on a fob, i have no idea. Maybe it's because everyone else is doing it.

recently had a coule fo cars with keyless. Personally i dont like it.

However i do subscribe to Billaddie's school of thought. In that if they want it they are going to take it. I imagine that if someone was to break into the house it would be a lot more mentally troubling than loosing a car.

Sorry to hear your car was nicked.

I dragged the 20 year old Disklok out of the garage when I took delivery of my new Octavia VRS last month, It blocks in the Mrs new Scala against the garage door. They may be both company cars but it is the hassle and stress that goes with them been stolen.