Oh and Northern Quarter in Manchester, add on a couple of quid just because.
Hipster Tax
The fiver a pint mark was reached and breached in the Northern Quarter many many years ago
Hey, I’m only nearly 48!
Snap.
On table service, I find I drink more not less. When the lovely staff offer you more delicious beers without you even having to move… you need a good reason to say no. Paying more for good beer, good service, and a good atmosphere… hell yes.
The bunch of us who ride on a Thursday night have always put our beer money into a kitty after the ride
I'm calling the RSPCA, you monster.
We've got a really nice pub near us which opened in December 2019 after an extensive refurb of a long time empty building... We've been along twice to support it, as it is a good thing to have in the village and they seemed to treat their staff fairly during lockdown, but >£5 a pint... frankly a pint out is not worth that, even if it is nice stuff.
If my wife an I were to go, have say 3 drinks each and a couple of small plates of nibbles, it would easily be over £60 - the question then becomes, how would you rather spend your wages, either spend 2 hours in the local pub or for the same money, go away for the weekend...
No brainer really.
I’m calling the RSPCA, you monster.
Well, it's either that or a pussy...
There’s some right little rays of sunshine on this
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either spend 2 hours in the local pub or for the same money, go away for the weekend
Err… you can go away for the weekend for the price of a few drinks down your local?!? How?
Err… you can go away for the weekend for the price of a few drinks down your local?!? How?
Weekend away for £60? pretty easily really. Half tank of fuel for the car, bottle of wine, food and perhaps a night on a campsite. Even cheaper if you use a new invention called a bicycle instead of a car.
Unless the picture's out of date, THE BEST PUB in the NQ has lots below a fiver.
https://the-smithfield-market-tavern.business.site/
Even cheaper if you use a new invention called a bicycle instead of a car.
Even cheaper if you drink from puddles and steal apples from a local farmer.
Even cheaper if you drink from puddles and steal apples from a local farmer.
You may like drinking from puddles, we prefer things a little nicer thanks.
Something that may surprise you also - we have a modest, but very comfortable boat on the west coast, the annual running costs divided by the night's we've already spent aboard this season is <£50 a night so far and were only just half way through the sailing season.
`Like I say, a weekend away for the price of a few hours in the pub is pretty easy, and the better value is, for us, not in the pub.
$22 Canadian dollars (~£13) for two IPAs at my new favorite local brewery (that includes a tip, as bar staff get an abysmal hourly rates over here, so the emphasis is providing an excellent service and tips make up the shortfall).
That's for a 20 fluid oz "pint" so a little bit bigger than a UK pint and is also offset by the (generally) higher ABV
I'm old enough to remember the time when the price of a pint breached £1...
😳
Like I say, a weekend away for the price of a few hours in the pub is pretty easy
Or… support your local pub without spending £30 a head… that’s six pints of strong beer… which I wouldn’t recommend.
It’s such a fake choice.
Your £60 weekend away for two still seems entirely mythical to me, and is probably ignoring a heap of costs that you’re writing off as “paid for anyway”.
we have a modest, but very comfortable boat on the west coast
#humblebrag
Your £60 weekend away for two still seems entirely mythical to me, and is probably ignoring a heap of costs that you’re writing off as “paid for anyway”.
Cool, no worries. Not here to win an argument or really care if you believe me or not.
Like the old saying goes, you can afford (pretty much) anything you want, but you can't afford everything you want. It comes down to what you value.
have a good weekend
- travel
- accommodation
- food
- drink
And are we assuming on your “weekend away” you don’t go to a cafe, pub, restaurant…?
The two of you can go to the pub for a tenner a head. Unless you want to eat out. Which your weekend away costing suggests you’re not that bothered about.
Another shout for the Fat Cat here in Sheffield, most expensive round last night was £10 for 2 and a half pints of excellent cider. Their own lovely brew "Pale Rider" is under £3 a pint.
I'll continue to support them but not other establishments nearby selling inferior refreshments for £5+ a pint.
Do they still do cheap pies in the week? I’ve not been for… shit… 10 years!
Yeah I'm also not entirely sure that a weekend in a tent rationing a bottle of wine and eating sandwiches is quite the equal of a nice meal out in a restaurant, but hey - some people even think running is enjoyable so it takes all sorts...
Pies are still good at the Fat Cat but not as brilliant as at the Nottie.👍
£12 for 2 pints of Tiny Rebel Club Tropica in Dunkeld last Sunday!
Still £3 a pint in The Farmacy in Matlock, beer brewed locally. Tupton Tap £3.50 a pint for a variety of real ale. £33 for 10 litres at Brampton Brewery in Chezvegas… you can’t afford not to drink, cheers all!
I remember when a pint bust 50p...
Well OK remember when a pint was 10p. It was shit.
Something that may surprise you also – we have a modest, but very comfortable boat on the west coast, the annual running costs divided by the night’s we’ve already spent aboard this season is <£50 a night so far and were only just half way through the sailing season.
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
Or… support your local pub without spending £30 a head… that’s six pints of strong beer… which I wouldn’t recommend.
Tbh I spent £60.40 at drink in Hebden bridge tonight on nine cans and a big bottle of cider, but I think that’ll do us two nights.
£60 quid on 10 beers/ciders from the offy! I couldn't do it...
Northern Monk from Morrisons at £10 for 8 cans is my posh beer
So the pub is buying beer in at around 3 price points.
JDW pay approx 80p a pint for locsl real ale around 4.0% abv
Free of tie indies will be buying at £1 a pint for a best bitter, maybe £1.35 for keg product like Peroni
Then the pubco owned tennant who rents his pub and can only buy from that pubco will be st £1.70 a pint. With the pubco buyimg that pint for 80p.
All ex vat. Std mark used to x3 plus vat,
Weekend away for £60? pretty easily really. Half tank of fuel for the car, bottle of wine, food and perhaps a night on a campsite.
£25 on fuel, £8 on wine, £20 on food and a shit campsite for £3.50 per night.
My locals have gone up too max is about £4 a pint for what I drink, a bit more for some others. I don’t mind they need to make up for the lost trade, plus worth it for table service.
Depends where I am and if I'm just having a couple.
If it's a nice venue and its only a few dont begrudge paying for a nice pint.
Those complaining dont look at scotch or wine in a pub.
This is one of the funniest things I have ever read.
Tell me you pictured the Wolf of Wall Street too?
Not bad considering it was from a store a staff whip round after he closed the shop.
In Sweden, so I feel the pain of the fellow Scandinavians. Hence why the “about right” comment I made was… made. A workmate regularly bitches about paying 70kr for a beer in Stockholm, which is why he defaults to drinking the cheap stuff (most often seen on streetcorners) when at home.
Copenhagen here so yeah can quite easily drop pretty much a tenner on not even a pint, of exceptionally good beer to be fair, but on the other hand you can have a cheap night in a bodega on the bottled pilsner for a fraction of the price and have an equally good time. Actually prefer a cold pilsner in summer here!
I'm not sure if I'm happy with spending £22 on five pairs in M&S or not.
We went to the local(village pub in Worcestershire )with friends a couple of weeks ago, a round for 6 was £30.00
Joseph Holt's is now £3.30 a pint which is my yardstick of the bottom price of a pint without ***spoon reference as I'm not giving him money.
Beer has its own production cost (go and look at the cost of hops...)
£5 I no longer moan about , I would have 5/10 yrs ago but not now especially post covid
Bird in hand Wordsley,£3 a pint for hobson's Town crier or holdens golden glow and a top draw pint at that.
Camra pub of the year 2020 what's not to like.
Oh I haven’t been in there for years! We’ve got some good tiny pubs around here haven’t we
Hobsons is a great pint.
We went to the local(village pub in Worcestershire )with friends a couple of weeks ago, a round for 6 was £30.00
I remember the first time we took you to The Anchor.
You came back from the bar with beers and cobs convinced they had massively under charged you. 😀
Tempest taproom today was 3.50 for 2/3 of a pint.
Bit more expensive than we are used of paying but worth it for great beer in an area that seems to only have pubs that sell shit lager or Strongbow.
holdens golden glow
Gives me the farts something chronic.😂
I just went to the pub
1 large sauvignon blanc
1 pint of Stella
£14.30
I wonder if my face said "wtf" at the time.
Reassuringly expensive!
Also, a large glass of wine is a third of a bottle. That's quite a bit of booze imo!
What's the most you've ever paid for a beer (intentionally or otherwise)?
Back in Venice in 2013 my friend and I went to a bar and took a table outside. We only had the first page of the beer menu, but they had a lot of Belgian stuff for fairly reasonable prices. So when the barman came over we both chose a beer from a list of 6 on the "special beers" blackboard by the door. For context: 2 of the beers on the list were La Chouffe Blonde, and Tennents Super (which you get everywhere in Italy). Nothing particularly special about either of those...
My friend got the Super (50cl draft) and I chose a 'La Trappe Quadrupel, Oak Aged', which came presented in a fancy bag of ice, like a sparkling wine. Only after our second round and having asked for the bill did we spy a full menu. 28 Euros it said for mine. Surely a mistake?
Nope, the bill confirmed it:
And the 2nd most expensive beer on the list was €6.75. Thankfully I almost never order "same again".
I'm not sure if I'd tried La Trappe Quadrupel before then, but I'd certainly heard of it (and tried both the dubbel and tripel). What I didn't know was that the oak aged was a special variant.
On reflection €28 Euros isn't that bad a price for that beer: I saw it for £12 in a bottle shop a few years later. But I almost certainly wouldn't have ordered it on that day, and if I had, I would have paid more attention to tasting it properly!
Just been to a place near us, North Yorkshire.
Pint of Theakstons IPA, large glass of Pinot, Bells whisky & coke & a G&T.
£19. A tad more than I was hoping.
I bought a crate of Augustiner for 22
0€ including deposit and sat outside with the neighbours.
Perhaps instead of complaining or bragging about expensive beer we should be celebrating and sharing reasonably priced beer, not from T*** Martins empire? The Lowther Arms, near the sea in Mowbray, Cumbria, £3.50 for an excellent pint of Skiddaw, food good too and lots of cycle routes nearby… just saying…
Oh yes, just realised, most of the routes are tarmac (not necessarily smooth), but, you can ride them on any type of bicycle and relax in the outdoors. Very little traffic too - unless you count cows?
I don’t really mind paying artisan prices. As a complete lightweight I can’t hope to drink a publican rich so would rather them extract the required hourly rate to run the establishment in thirds of a pint artisan craft sours. If you do the maths they’re Norwegian prices but I can’t hold the volume, never mind the alcohol.
I'm up near Ingleton tonight
A pint of Ingleborough Gold IPA was £3.80. what's all the fuss about?
which will mean we’ll all be back to going to the bar again.
My regular drinkery has now dropped table service, although they still have the same number of staff going round the tables, they’re now doing food rather than drinks.
Part of the problem with beer prices is the Pubcos like Enterprise Inns and their pricing policies regarding what they charge per barrel, which means pub management have to charge more to stand any chance of making any sort of profit. I had a conversation a little while ago in a local pub, which is still independent, with someone who actually works for a local brewery, and they charge pubs around £65 for a barrel, Enterprise charge about £120, IIRC. The brewery she works for nearly went under due to the shutdown, but the farmer who owns the property took it on, then put it about that he would do free home deliveries within a certain distance, and they ended up making more money than they were before shutdown! It saved the brewery, and also a pub in town which the brewery had taken on two or three years ago, so that’s a small victory.
The brothers who run my regular drinking spot have had it with Enterprise, who’ve shafted them over all sorts of things, in particular building maintenance, as it’s a very old building in Corsham, about 17th Century I think, and it needs a lot of money spent, which Enterprise won’t do. Fortunately they’ve been given a pub in Melksham after the lease owners were themselves ripped off by staff, so they’re currently working flat out to redo the pub, ready to re-open in November, and it’ll be a free house, with plans to have fifteen pumps available! Seems optimistic, but there’s enough independent breweries locally to have one beer from each on each pump, or have some ciders as well as beers. Spreading further afield, there’s over 1600 breweries in the U.K. to buy from.
Happy days! 🤪
why are all the pubs closing down?
Peebles yesterday
Pint of Hobgoblin Gold £1:96
Whay are all the pubs closing down
Rent from a pubco, who are huge plc companies. They need to rent the pubs for eg £1500 a week . Landlords get stuffed on full repair leeses. No covid rent holidays, you can only buy from an approved suppliet list. The staff levels are highbad ypu have to do food to generate turnover necessary. Energy costs are huge, mo one wants to sit in a cold pub.
Rates are also high, and as most pubs occupy a big footprint the land value for redevelopment is high, which means rents have to be high or its bettet evonomics to sell
Landlords have flow meters on tje lines do back door deals on cheaper off list beers is obvious
Drink? has Nexterday [ Yonder v Deya ] on keg — £3.75 for a half — elderflower IPA — summer in a glass. Get some. Or have a weekend away for the two of you… sleeping behind the bins in a national trust car park and drinking supermarket own brand white cider… for the price of a pint each (£15 maths fans).
Hey, that killed that thread off, are you proud of yourself? Said in the tone of parent to child and tongue in cheek…………
was 7.60 for a pint of tennents and a pint of moreti in the the pool hall there. Maybe you lot should stop drinking in expensive shitholes. 😆
What’s the most you’ve ever paid for a beer
€23 for a 330ml bottle of San Miguel in a club in Ibiza.
@wheelsonfire1 get yourself down to Dronfield brewery, at Unstone oddly enough. They do some really interesting beers. Also if you get membership for £10 then you get a discount. Think I saved more than that on my first order 👍
Think I’ve had some of their beers, Dronny Bottom? Perhaps this thread could be the start of support for small pubs and breweries in line with the ethos of supporting local bike shops and qualified mechanics? Artisan bread/coffee etc? Had some good beer again today, in a community owned pub, The Lowther Arms, £3.50 a pint for Skiddaw and Peak Bagger, excellent and also friendly staff. Always a bonus!
Pubs rule. They need our support now more than ever.
No pubs, no Monday Night Pub Ride, so that’s no good
We tried a new place tonight (The Pack Horse in Birtle) that I’ve ridden past loads of times but never been in as it tended to be mid ride. It was lovely. Cracking beer garden with a fantastic view back towards Manchester.
Cracking beer garden with a fantastic view back towards Manchester.
Saways a cracking view when you've you're back towards Manchester
Pubs rule. They need our support now more than ever.
I'd be quite happy if a fair few pubs in town closed to be honest, there's far too many.
£5-6 for a pint is about right these days I’m afraid, soft drinks have been on par with alcoholic drinks for at least 20 years.
Last time i stopped for a post ride pint, The newly reopened pub had gone to an app thing for ordering.
So you have to order on the app, which is made by the brewery. Lots of staff around but none prepared to take our order verbally.
The app took 20 mins to download cause of reception issues, then it only had the brewery's standard dross available, (Carling, tetleys, Guinness, bleurgh).
Then it was 13 quid for 2 pints
then it turned up in warm in a plastic cup, and was off.
Worst. Pint. Ever.
We kind of had the opposite problem last week; out for a walk and popped into a pub for a pint. I checked that it was okay if I paid by phone contactless (impromptu walk and pint, no wallet), and the very friendly woman behind the bar said that was fine, but there was a minimum of £10 for card payments.
No problem, we thought, two pints has got to be somewhere near (if not over) a tenner, we can always chuck some crisps in to top it up if needs be.
So, two pints, ordered. "How much is that?" I ask
"£5.80"
"Each?"
"Nope"
"Oh, blimey"
"It's alright", she said, "I can start a tab"
So we had a couple of bags of crisps, two more halves, and bought two more bags of crisps to take home and just scraped over the tenner.
Or have a weekend away for the two of you… sleeping behind the bins in a national trust car park and drinking supermarket own brand white cider…
#vanlife #living the dream 🙂
went for an end of ride pint or four in saltaire. Scan the code, go to the website, download and install the app, find out where you actually buy stuff, buy it for the pub you're actually sitting in as opposed to the one somewhere down the road, go to pay, remember your debit card number, enter that, get a message saying it's a 35 minute wait (in a quiet pub), bar staff assure us it will be less, pay I have no idea what for the beers for a few of us as not all could manage the app or something. Then there's all the fun afterwards of spreadsheeting the beers to see who owes me what and more faff to actually get given the money.
Only that last bit is exaggeration. It's enough to drive me to cider on the park bench...
So we had a couple of bags of crisps, two more halves, and bought two more bags of crisps to take home and just scraped over the tenner.
So basically, you got stiffed into paying more than you really wanted to. The 'minimum charge' thing has largely dissapeared, in fact most card service providers don't allow mincharge any more. So; cheap beer, but they still get their money out of you. I'd have walked out and gone somewhere with no mincharge (a fiver is ok, as that's barely a pint anyway these days).
Then it was 13 quid for 2 pints
then it turned up in warm in a plastic cup, and was off.
Why did you put up with that? Refuse, refund, go elsewhere.
You just need to drink in better places
Binners. Binners said this. Lol! 😀
Are pubs still doing this ordering by app nonsense? Worse than bloody self-service checkouts.
Grumble, moan, whinge, aren't policemen looking young these days?
spreadsheeting the beers
And folk say that Scots are tight.
It's all humans taking orders around here out in the sticks. Have used website ordering in bars in Leeds (rather than messing around downloading an app) and only took seconds to order, a few minutes to arrive. Felt like magic. Anyway... dedicated apps can stop now... enough.... do it online if you really want "distance" ordering, backed up by staff that care and are paid and respected properly. Paying by phone rather than cash can stay.
Coming soon to the Black Dog...
Have used website ordering in bars in Leeds (rather than messing around downloading an app) and only took seconds to order, a few minutes to arrive. Felt like magic
yep. I do this a fair bit and was describing the worst I'd come across.
And folk say that Scots are tight.
Not in Yorkshire we don't 🙂
I'd rather pubs don't close to be honest, it means that the other pubs get really full and that causes stress and bad behaviour, better to have lots of small pubs (I'm aware that the UK's stupid attitudes to business rates and commercial property costs and lack of realistic minimum wage makes this a nonstarter but that's a whole other thread because not just pubs)
We kind of had the opposite problem last week; out for a walk and popped into a pub for a pint.
Needs more details - where was this? I might need to plan a walk in the same area.
I have a confession to make. I went into Wetherspoons last week.
I badly needed a shit and it felt appropriate. Total cost: £0.00
Gives me the farts something chronic.😂
Theakston's for me. Known to a mate and I when ordering as "a pint of Finest Eggy."
Pub in Newcastle city centre, £7.40 for a pint of Magic Rock fantasma. Which for a 6.5 IPA was a tad rich but not far off the mark these days.
Cougar, don't give the ****er ideas for a new revenue stream!
Needs more details – where was this? I might need to plan a walk in the same area.
That used to be my local!