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Want to shed some flab, a stone or so. Can someone recommend a diet that will work - seems to be too much information out there so someone who has experience with one that works. Don't drink or smoke, don't eat too much crap and am 47.
Eat less move more!
Nutribullets!
Slimming World = Eat yourself slim.
Works for me.
1, Get a my fitness pal account,
2, decide how much you want to lose
3, log all you eat
4, add a strava/etc account to log your exercise
5, err thats it really
No faddy stuff, just basic physics
Oh, and don't lie to yourself - very easy to do
eat less food
eat less
drink less
exercise more
everything else is a fancy name for the above
try the my fitness pal etc to see what you actually consume.
Seafood, if it's not cooked properly you'll s**t that off in a week or two...
5-2 diet. Have just now lost a stone in just over a month. I also swim 40 mins three times a week.
Have been struggling for ten years with low-fat diets limiting calories daily. Never worked for me. This has worked. I obviously find it better to limit calories just two days a week rather than feal 'cheated' every day. So much so that have on occasions fasted on alternate days throughout a week. Becoming much more aware of what goes in. Stomach has shrunk after a month so have my portions. Even on normal day when allowed to eat regularly (ie Friday night) I will now throw/give half a bag of chips away. 😯
*Edit - I track daily intake/ exercise/weight etc progress on myfitnesspal. Enjoying the whole thing and now fit into old clothes. Rounds two three will see me losing another two stones and then fitting into *very* old clothes that have been stored for 10+ years on account of optimism over resolution 😉
5:2 also. And I'm not entering any further discussion, it's all been said already and haterz will still hate.
1, Get a my fitness pal account,
2, decide how much you want to lose
3, log all you eat
4, add a strava/etc account to log your exercise
5, err thats it reallyNo faddy stuff, just basic physics
Oh, and don't lie to yourself - very easy to do
This is exactly what I was going to recommend. But as I feel I should add a point:
6, Cook your own food. That way you can control what goes into it.
Cut out sugar.
Google it on yahoo
5:2 eat what you want then starve for 2 days, ideal if you can't get your head around portion size and intake... work out what you eat and what you expend, injured at the moment and my intake is seriously reduced, no exercise, reduce.
The simplicity of the diet and the fact you can eat pretty much what you like five days a week, are key to its popularity. Dieters are recommended to consume a ‘normal’ number of calories five days a week and then, for two, non-consecutive days, eat just 25% of their usual calorie total - 500 calories for women and 600 for men.
As Jasper Carrot said the in hole is bigger than the out hole
stop eating one sugary item for ever. Milk chocolate is one I gave up.
You would be surprised how much stuff is covered in cheap sugar filled coco solids.
As Kate Moss says - "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"
Repeat this to yourself anytime you're tempted by cakes/biscuits/etc.
Weigh yourself every morning and keep a record of your progress so you can track how the weight loss/gain is going.
If you're feeling peckish and it's not a mealtime, ask yourself: "Am I hungry enough to eat an apple?" If you're not, eat nothing. If you are, eat an apple.
Weigh yourself every morning and keep a record of your progress so you can track how the weight loss/gain is going.
Weighing yourself daily isn't necessarily a good idea - your weight fluctuates a fair bit, and despite having had a "good day" the day before you could still find you weigh more... I'd stick to weighing yourself once a week, and always in the same conditions: pick a weekday to ensure you haven't been drinking (much!) the night before, just after getting up, no clothes, etc.
teef - Member
As Kate Moss says - "Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels"
This ^
I'm just coming off the back of losing a stone and I only had 11 of them, beginning to look a little guant, noticed hollow cheeks the other day, trouble is I'm trying to come off it but I now hate the taste of the fatty crap I used to eat plus it disagrees with me, makes me feel bloated and excessively gaseous.
My version of the 5 2, is 4 -3. Four days of the week it's salads and I'm lucky Mrs Lannister makes some very imaginative salads and I live in a house full of women trying to lose a dress size for some upcoming wedding celebrations this summer. Basically Monday thru Thursday, no bread, no dairy, only white meat and fish,quinoa, pomegranate, feta, goats & sheep cheese, olives, blue berries, fruit, nuts, muesli, soya milk which I now much prefer over ordinary, buy the unsweetened stuff it rocks. It began as some 'fourteen food' diet she'd read up on, but basically she tells me if i can eat it. No sugar, no processed crap, no instant meals, ride everyday even if it's only a short one and keep busy, either sport or in the garden. (Energy can be an issue at times).
What to do next is the problem, I like being light, does wonders for you climbing ability, but I don't like being guant.
I like the idea of the 5:2. I'll look into that, what do eat on your fast days.
IDIET. my 5 stone weight loss proves it works. or any primal type eating plan.
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Weighing yourself daily isn't necessarily a good idea - your weight fluctuates a fair bit, and despite having had a "good day" the day before you could still find you weigh more... I'd stick to weighing yourself once a week, and always in the same conditions: pick a weekday to ensure you haven't been drinking (much!) the night before, just after getting up, no clothes, etc.
Weighing yourself every day smooths out the fluctuations better than a weekly weigh in, doing it weekly can take a couple of months to get a realistic trend of progress.
As for diets, I have found keeping a food diary the most effective method, it really makes you face up to what you eat far better than all the fads. Although I think reducing "white carbs" and upping quality fats and oils has moved from fad, there is still a lot of fads in the diets being sold that roughly follow this ideal.
Protein (chicken, fish, eggs) and vegetables
Get mfp or a similar app and log everything for a fortnight, teaches you which foods are energy / calorie intense, and which are filling for relatively few.
Get used to feeling hungry for 2 days a week. It won't kill you, and you do want to lose weight don't you?
Hot water triggers the 'I'm full' reflex so a cup of hot water or black coffee or even half a stock cube (4 cals) can stave off the hunger. Or go and do something more exciting than sit around feeling hungry.
I've lost just over 2 stone this year, using myfitnesspal as an easy to use food diary and simple exercise log. Diet wise we have just ended up eating 'clean' (see deliciously ella for example) so just a good healthy diet although that has been evolution over the last 6 months rather than a deliberate step change in diet.
This is what I have a problem with, I tend to graze when I am bored - so I go and cut the lawn, tidy the garage, go for a ride .... I love coming back from an hours ride and think I have created a 1000 cal difference over the crap I could have eaten in the hour I have been out.Or go and do something more exciting than sit around feeling hungry.
Whatever diet you follow make sure you do a food diary - gives you a really good idea of what you are eating, plus it sometimes stops you from having that extra packet of crisps, choc bar, etc.
I like the idea of the 5:2. I'll look into that, what do eat on your fast days.
I eat a handful of muesli at breakfast, or apple sliced into oats and boiling water for a low fat porridge.
When hungry again (midday?) crudités - a couple of carrots and some cucumber sticks, smeared (not gobbed) with hummus or dipped in chilli sauce.
Black coffee. Glasses of water.
Dinner - low fat soup, or (1) egg salad, or a cup of mtfu!
Some days nothing but an apple, carrots, water and vitamin tablet.
Whatever diet you follow make sure you do a food diary - gives you a really good idea of what you are eating, plus it sometimes stops you from having that extra packet of crisps
^^ Especially this. I find that keeping a daily food diary on MFP teaches me a lot about my bad habits and the calorific content of even one chocolate biscuit, slice of bread or bag of chips. Much less likely to have the odd fat 'treat' of past years. Much more likely to have a 'good' healthy treat.
I like the idea of the 5:2. I'll look into that, what do eat on your fast days
Just eat salad a couple of times a week. Doesn't sound as cool as 5:2 but that's all it is.
Weighing yourself every day smooths out the fluctuations better than a weekly weigh in, doing it weekly can take a couple of months to get a realistic trend of progress.
Not convinced: over a week a 100g fluctuation (for example) will get swamped by the overall weight loss (assuming there is some!) so you get a clear idea of progress, daily that's not the case. But if you'd rather weigh yourself daily go for it, but don't get overly excited or depressed about a single day's results, you could easily find they're reversed a day later...
Not convinced: over a week a 100g fluctuation (for example) will get swamped by the overall weight loss (assuming there is some!) so you get a clear idea of progress, daily that's not the case. But if you'd rather weigh yourself daily go for it, but don't get overly excited or depressed about a single day's results, you could easily find they're reversed a day later...
thats the point. but MSP is correct in my opinion, weighing yourself each day gives you more data/reference points to work out an average.
Tim Noakes (Banting) diet. Low carb high fat and cut out sugar. Works for me. 7.5kg lost in 3 months and more energy than I've ever had before.
I can do you a personal diet and training plan if you like.*
*Disclaimer - I may just take your money, then go on a nice holiday, pretend to have computer problems and then disappear from the forum forever having never delivered anything and not given you a refund. 😉
Eat what you want, lounge around all the time, then simply lop a leg off before the weigh in?
DrP
Stop drinking alcohol.
Try and cut a lot of suguar and processed food from your diet.
Buy a road bike and ride with vigour.
Eat lean meats, veg and fruit, I have porridge for breakfast with banana and honey. Don't calorie restrict it messes up your metabolism. I've lost 2 stone 10 pounds this year and I was only 13'10 at my heaviest. Bread,pasta and pastries are your worst nightmare.
Eat more pies.
it's all about subsitues. I struggle with wait loss fir ages. Got almond milk (un sweeternd) dates insted of all the other crap I use to eat. Thay have lower caloures and help wait loss. Get a fitness friend and strava goals to work with. An get a yoga ball siting on one burns loads of caloures with out thinking to har about it D
What @mogrin & @andyfla says, buying ready meals is death. My fitness pal is excellent, it takes some time to setup your meals but it really shows you what you need to do. Beer is a killer for diets too, ideally cut out all alcohol but a glass of wine or a gin/vodka is much better for weight loss if you want a drink.
I lost 1/2 stone cutting out the obvious bad habits (eg daily chocolate treat, drinking less) plus moving more
Good luck.
Most has been said before but what works for me is:
1. Keep a food diary - one of the most eye-opening things you can do, scary how easily you can go way over your daily needs just by adding a few extra grams of pasta or an extra spoonful of olive oil
2. Cook as much as possible from scratch.
3. Eat little and often - small breakfast and lunch (~300 calories each) with fruity snacks in between results in fewer cravings IME.
3. Weighing yourself daily and getting an average is more accurate but weighing in weekly results in less obsessive/neurotic behaviour IME.
4. Commute by bike (if possible/you don't already) - Lost 3 kg in 3 months since doing this without changing my diet at all.
ride your bike more 🙂
pick a night in the week, set it in the diary, set a loop and do it - when your fitness improves, make the loop longer
(if you're really feeling brave, do it before breakfast, before everyone else is awake)
I lost a stone (12st down to 11st) in around 6 months and have kept it off simply by snacking a little less and going to the gym two or three times a week and doing an hour on the exercise bike at each visit (I tried weights and other stuff but don't enjoy it so just concentrate on the bike). I also try to get out and walk on a lunchtime when I can.
I haven't 'dieted' as such and I haven't cut back on alcohol yet the weight seemed to come off really easily. I have also gone from a tight 32'' waist to a comfortable 31'' waist - so much so all my old jeans fall off my arse as I walk :-/
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the iDave diet.
This has worked for me and my wife, may be worth a try. It's not a diet, that suggests you do it then stop, this is just a simple way eating better.
1. Eat smaller portions more regularly, every 3 hours of so. This stops you feeling hungry.
2. Drink more water, the physiology behind it is debatable but for me at least, I feel fuller so eat less.
3. Cook food from scratch. The problem a lot of people have is that they don't know what they're eating so eat a lot of crap accidentally. If you cook things from scratch you'll know what has or hasn't gone in to it.
3. Eat cleaner. Off the back of the above, eat cleaner, less processed stuff, wholemeal bread and pasta, fresh veg, butter not marg.
4. Don't sweat over good fats and avoid too much sugar. Lots of low fat food make up for it in sugar, there is an argument you're better off with the fat.
5. No carbs after 5pm. It's surprisingly easy to cut carbs out of your evening meal, just eat more protein instead.
6. Cheat meal. Once a week, go hard on a cheat meal, drink beer, eat chips, whatever, but do it.
7. Not food based but do strength exercise on big muscle groups. Squats are good, burn the food up by using it to rebuild muscle.
8. Throw away your scales. You (probably) don't want to lose weight, you more likely want to feel better/look better naked/feel stronger. Instead take a picture of yourself and then take another every week or 2 and compare how you look.
9. Don't panic if you slip up. Ate a cookie when you shouldn't have, don't worry, it's fine, just don't use it as an excuse to eat the rest of the packet.
10. Ride/exercise on empty. Bit personal this but for me, an hour's exercise, gym or bike, before breakfast fuelled only on espresso works a treat for me. Just make sure you have a good breakfast prepared before you start or you'll be tempted to raid the biscuit tin.
[i]an hour on the exercise bike[/i]
Wow! I no way I could swtich my brain off for that long.
[i]8. Throw away your scales. You (probably) don't want to lose weight, you more likely want to feel better/look better naked/feel stronger. Instead take a picture of yourself and then take another every week or 2 and compare how you look.[/i]
Agreed, scales mean nothing. Muscle is heavier than fat as any fool no.
Depends doesn't it, whether you're trying to lose weight or just look better?
Johndoh, up there losing a stone over 6 months is just vanity (nowt wrong with that) it probably doesn't "need" a set of scales
Someone weighing in at 25 stones looking to live beyond their 35th birthday could probably use the info...
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the iDave diet.
What, apart from Ton 18 hours ago you mean?
Wow! I no way I could swtich my brain off for that long.
I quite like it - I can zone out by playing music and just concentrate on the spinning - I usually average 90/100 rpm depending on the time of day/hangover/tiredness or whatever and my Polar HRM says I burn around 750/800 calories.
Johndoh, up there losing a stone over 6 months is just vanity (nowt wrong with that) it probably doesn't "need" a set of scales
What do you mean? As in I didn't need to lose any weight at 12st?
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the iDave diet.
and CFH 😉
5:2 Diet. I lost 2.5 stone in two months. Still doing it as a "weight control" mechanism.
[i]What do you mean? As in I didn't need to lose any weight at 12st?[/i]
I'm supposing you're otherwise average? Then no, you probably didn't [u]need[/u] to. The health outcomes for "normal" weight and "a little bit over" are almost identical.
You've changed your mass by 8%, d'you think that's going to make any difference?
I'm supposing you're otherwise average? Then no, you probably didn't need to. The health outcomes for "normal" weight and "a little bit over" are almost identical.You've changed your mass by 8%, d'you think that's going to make any difference?
I didn't do it for health reasons, I just wanted to get rid of an expanding tummy as I near 50 years old and don't have the time I once had to exercise more regularly and have regular weekends away riding. And I just noted my experience as a response to the OP question. I don't know why it appears that you have taken some kind of exception to my post. 😕
I haven't take exception to your post, just using it as an example of vanity weight loss, in a wider ranging discussion about the use of scales when trying to monitor weight loss.
You're reading more into it than there is.
My Fitness Pal app on the phone and log EVERYTHING and don't cheat/lie to yourself. I was doing 1800 calories a day (plus the extra to account for the daily running) for a few months and lost 2 stone.
If you exercise every day then it's surprising how much you can get away with eating
From personal experience I can highly recommend Norovirus if you are after short term quick weight loss. Pneumonia if you want a more steady, but increased weight loss.
Other than that eat sensibly, home made when you can, and move more.
I haven't take exception to your post, just using it as an example of vanity weight loss, in a wider ranging discussion about the use of scales when trying to monitor weight loss.You're reading more into it than there is.
I am not sure what I am reading into it at all - I don't know what you are trying to say!
[i]I am not sure what I am reading into it at all - I don't know what you are trying to say![/i]
nothing about you
get a room you two
I'll bring the Bubbly....
don't, it's fattening 😉
If you exercise every day then it's surprising how much you can get away with eating
You can't outrun a bad diet.
It's alright, I won't weigh myself.
You can't outrun a bad diet.
Depends how bad it is Shirley?
since getting to work at 830, I've had an apple and banana, and a nice salad 🙂
...and 2 caramel logs and a huge bag of crisps 😳
not recommended diet !!
Have shed a few kgs the last month doing as advised above, myfitnesspal + healthy food + daily exercise, Endomondo will sync the calories burned.
Only word of warning, it's tempting to cut calories too much at first, you get a big quick loss but the diet is unsustainable and upping it to a manageable level will see some weight gain even below daily recommended, did for me anyway. Was considering the 5:2 but the weight eventually started to drop of again. Could just have been water, as also mentioned tape measure is a better indicator than scales.
You can't outrun a bad diet.Depends how bad it is Shirley?
That's aimed at folks that think 'I've done an hour of exercise, I can eat what I like now'
Folks like me, then.
I am not sure what I am reading into it at all - I don't know what you are trying to say!
I think what he's trying to say is that you want to get rid of your "expanding tummy". If you do more exercise and eat better you may gain muscle and lose fat. The net result could be that despite looking and feeling better you don't actually lose any weight because muscle is denser than fat. In that case using scales rather than a mirror to judge your progress/success would be bad because it would make it look like you'd failed when you'd actually done what you wanted.
You don't gain much muscle unless you are hitting the weights hard, and you certainly gain **** all from doing aerobic exercise. And if you need to lose weight, are trying to do so with even a slightly restrictive diet, there is absolutely no way you would match or better fat loss with muscle gain, even if you were caning the roids.
I'm just trying to figure out what nickc is talking about!
edit: although I guess it's along those lines. If you want to look better the way to measure it is to look in a mirror and ask "do I look better after X weeks of exercise and eating more healthily?". I suppose an easy way to see if you're making any progress, before you look different, is by getting on the scales though.
there are 2 reasons why most people want to lose weight
1. my trousers don't fit/influence of society/no one will have sex with me
or:
2. If I don't, I'll suffer long term and debilitating illness and disease.
The first (losing a couple of stone in 6 months for instance) doesn't need the use of scales particularly (just mirror/belt notches/trousers falling down)
the second mostly requires the use of doctors, and rigorous monitoring of input and weight...
Is the point I was (clearly badly) trying to convey, in my post up there...
Slimming World as already said eat yourself thin.
Free 7-day diet online http://www.slimmingworld.com/healthy-eating/non-vegetarian-menu.aspx.
No need to deprive yourself of food just limit the bad stuff!