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[Closed] can deep sea divers breath liquid oxygen yet?

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just watching the abyss film,where the guy is wearing a special suit that allows him to breath a liquid.just wondering if it is actually possible to do yet? (not that i'm a diver myself) would your body still remember how to breath a liquid? seems an incredible thing to do if it works.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:19 pm
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Wouldn't pure oxygen be a bit... lethal?


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:21 pm
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Me too.I remember Reading why it's not possible.....osmotic pressure or something.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:24 pm
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Cerebral oxygen toxicity if pure O2 is breathed at a greater depth of 2.2bar for any period of time (if I remember correctly....it's been a while).


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:48 pm
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In the movie, it wasn't pure liquid oxygen - it was a fluid containing oxygen.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:50 pm
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so could you breathe it?


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:51 pm
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Humans can't 'breathe' a liquid of any kind. We're air breathers


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:54 pm
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I think you'd probably need some form of pumping method to get it in and out of you.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:54 pm
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It's been tried already, medical use... It works for a bit I think,

Here you go....
[url] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_breathing [/url]


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:56 pm
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Humans can't 'breathe' a liquid of any kind. We're air breathers
The "lie" in the movie is that we breathe amniotic fluid whilst in the womb - and this technology somehow uses that mechanism. In fact, babies get oxygen from blood supplied through the umbilical cord.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:57 pm
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Would it work with oxyginated lager?


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 7:58 pm
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rorschach.... definately!!! 8)


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 8:01 pm
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The test with the rat was a copy of real experiments.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 9:41 pm
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I remember seeing it on something like Tomorrows World with a rat. Basically they drowned the rat, but if didn't die, breathing looked a bit convulsive, but I don't think they explained it to the rat very well, so it probably panicked a little...
We are mammals as well so I should think it is feasible.


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 9:55 pm
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Marine boy used oxygum and had no worries


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 10:19 pm
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Wouldn't liquid O2 be a smidge cold to breathe? A brisk -183 deg C, just like a Yorkshire summer!


 
Posted : 14/07/2012 10:42 pm
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One of my lecturers on my dive medical technicians course (current Surgeon General for the kiwi and Oz navies, and consultant to the Japanese navy, Royal navy, and US Navy) was heavily involved in developing liquid breathing for the US military in the late 80s. When he left the project they had a working prototype. Guess they've advanced a bit in the last 20 years, but it's all top secret so he gets no updates anymore. Most research is based around an oxygen rich fluorocarbon solution (iirc). Apparently it's pretty horrendous as you have to "drown" in the fluid first...

Gives lots of benefits: No embolisms/pressure related injuries, no gas toxicities, no narcosis, no HPNS etc...


 
Posted : 15/07/2012 9:25 am
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@T666DOM. I like it

A brisk -183 deg C, just like a Yorkshire summer!
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Posted : 15/07/2012 10:00 am
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Most research is based around an oxygen rich fluorocarbon solution (iirc).

Yes - perfluorocarbons. I met an intensive care doc once who'd been involved in trials in San Diego for its use in [url= http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acute_respiratory_distress_syndrome ]ARDS[/url]. IIRC subsquent looking at the literature suggests it didn't work, and no-one seems to be seriously suggesting it as a useful therapy at the moment.

Andy


 
Posted : 15/07/2012 5:57 pm
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Drowning (ie water entering the lungs0 is painful.

even if it were feasible, no one would like doing it.


 
Posted : 15/07/2012 7:02 pm
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I wonder about the side effects of the flurocarbons against the lung wall.... thanks but no thanks (I would be amazed if I saw any kind of application in my lifetime personally)


 
Posted : 15/07/2012 10:45 pm

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