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"Cognitive decline of type 1 diabetics"
Or is Theresa May, starting from such a high point, that we are comfortable with her leading the country.
Speaking as a Type1 myself...
Ken Clarke [b]caught on camera[/b] ridiculing Tory leadership candidates
Ken Clarke knows exactly what he is doing.
I now think the talk of Corbyn being un-electable can now be quietly shelved. Considering the choices in the tory leadership contest? Which of them is electable? ehhh, mmmmm, aaaahhh....
Ken Clarke looks as if he's had less sleep than Jeremy Corbyn.
Considering the choices in the tory leadership contest? Which of them is electable?
That's the point though isn't it? They don't have to have to appeal to the general electorate, they only have to be selected by the party. Then hand over the mess to whoever replaces Corbyn - or potentially a LibDem government.
Cognitive decline of type 1 diabetics"
Huh?
or potentially a LibDem government.
Well there's something which I didn't expect to hear for a while.
You do realise that they are down to 8 seats and need to win at least another 318 seats to form a government, don't you ?
You do realise that they are down to 8 seats and need to win at least another 318 seats to form a government, don't you ?
Yup, could be good though? Just imagine Vince back in da house?
I WANT KEN's BABIES!
what a legend 🙂
pr0n for Stoner
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Everything you need ... a pair of Hush Puppies, an EU star-spangled flag, and a phallic reference to British American Tobacco.
so very frot-worthy.
They are not Hush Puppies, they are what my father would have called "brothel creepers".
so very frot-worthy.
Yeah you can put that in your **** bank along with that clip up there ^ in which he's got I've-just-got-out-of-bed eyes.
so the tories are playing a long game and thinking about 2025 here? you're going to have to convince me a little more on thst yin!Member
Considering the choices in the tory leadership contest? Which of them is electable?That's the point though isn't it? They don't have to have to appeal to the general electorate, they only have to be selected by the party. Then hand over the mess to whoever replaces Corbyn - or potentially a LibDem government.
Though I can see the tories getting punished for all this nonsense, guess that may be the only good thing to come out of it all. Labour do really need to get their act together, and sharpish, though how sharp is up for debate, I guess the tories know they've made a monumental mess of things. So i really can't see them doing the honourable thing and holding an early election.
Full breakdown of results
Out of 329 Conservative MP votes:
Theresa May - 165
Andrea Leadsom - 66
Michael Gove - 48
Stephen Crabb - 34
Liam Fox - 16
Looks like it's going to be Theresa May. A sensible choice for the Tories and Labour's toughest opponent imo.
lol @ Gove. How really does fail at everything he does.
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Looks like it's going to be Theresa May. A sensible choice for the Tories and Labour's toughest opponent imo.
Agreed. Tories aren't daft, they will pick a candidate to give them the best chance of winning in 2020. Leadsom is too risky a choice, not experiemced enough. Gove couldn't win a GE - I am surpised he got 48 votes, far too soon for Crabb.
Also May was one of the Ministers thought quite likely to campaign Leave before coming down on Cameron's side but generally keeping out of the campaign
Ken Clarke looks all over the place there. Tories biggest EU supporter really needs to admit the game is up
Agreed. Tories aren't daft
They would have voted for Boris if he hadn't been cut off at the knees.
Ken Clarke looks all over the place there.
Really? He looks dead on point.
Agreed. Tories aren't daft
Some of them wanted to leave the EU, so they've involved us all in their massive bun fight, are now voting for an MP who wants to stay in the EU as our PM, which solves ..?
the evidence, as they say, points to the contrary. 🙄
Tories aren't daft
Well I wouldn't over emphasize their collective wisdom after all they chose the self-proclaimed "quiet man" IDS as their leader, and also Michael Howard of whom Ann Widdecombe famously said "there is something of the night about him", we all knew what she meant.
Tories aren't daft....
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Some of them wanted to leave the EU
Well, technically I think you'll find that about 17 million other people also wanted to leave the EU 😆
Technically I think you'll find that nickc was referring to Tory MPs.
EDIT : 😆
Well, to repeat the point, technically I think you'll find that the electorate agreed with them.
Imagine, politicians carrying out the will of the electorate in a democracy - who would have believed it ?
(edit: apologies if, as a sometime Labour party supporter, you're uncomfortable with this radical concept 😉 )
Crabb has bailed out.
Poor old Gove, took his shot, and got beaten by an unknown and Maybot 3000.
...although, he probably just wanted to stop, Boris.
Cameron wasn't well known when he won. Leadsom well known inside the Party. Still think it will be a May win.
it's such a shame the returning officer followed 'eliminated' with 'from the ballot'.
I was hoping for Gove if only to hobble the tory ****s in the election.
I was hoping for Gove if only to hobble the tory **** in the election.
They are leaving the self harm to the Labour Party
They are leaving the self harm to the Labour Party
Your opinion that Corbyn harms the Labour Party is well known jambalaya, but I'm surprised you appear to feel that Gove is similarly harmful to the Tory Party.
Gove is on the right of the Tory Party and very much opposed to the EU, what is it about him that you dislike so much ?
Those really is like choosing which testicle to remove. However, I think May is slightly less detestable than Loathsome, erm, I mean Leadsom.
Gove is to the Torys what Jezza is to the Labour Party. Both men of high principle and integrity, but completely unelectable.
Gove? High integrity and principle? 😆
Rockape: is that a joke or have you not been paying attention to what Gove says and does?
It's a bit early to be drinking rockape!
Where exactly has Gove displayed a lack of integrity ?
Where exactly has Gove displayed a lack of integrity ?
Most of his cabinet jobs?
Lying all the way through the referendum?
Knifing Boris?
Letting his missus write for the press?
lack of integrity........
That stuff stirring up loads of resentment toward Turkish immigrants coming to the UK, when he knew perfectly well that Turkey joining the EU is as likely as England winning a major football tournament.
Where exactly has Gove displayed a lack of integrity ?
The problem isn't a lack of integrity. The problem is that he's absolutely insane!!! Completely hatstand meep meep bonkers. Wibble!
While education secretary, he gave a copy of the bible, to every school in the country, with a forward by himself!
Just stop and have a think about that for a moment. A bible. With an introduction by himself. Just inwardly digest that. Read that sentence again......
[b]While education secretary, he gave a copy of the bible, to every school in the country, with a forward by himself![/b]
He thought it appropriate to give out the word of god, but prefaced with his own thoughts, by way of an introduction
You may want someone who thinks that kind of thing appropriate in charge of the country? Personally I think they should be heavily medicated, to try and treat their narcissistic personality disorders and messiah complex, and kept away from the rest of us thanks
He didn't write a foreward, it was funded by others.
It's not even clear to me it was his idea, sounds like some people came to him.
#posttruthpolitics
I have to confess that I didn't know they were going to say 'presented by the secretary for education' until I actually saw the first Bible," he said. [b]"In a way I don't mind."[/b]
huh-uh...
The Book of Gove 2:12 - "Shun thou the foreigner whose name is Johnny for he covets thy lawmaking.
Take back thy control and embrace thy fellows before plunging thy dagger into them for truly, they are not worthy."
😆
He's insane. Pure and simple. He's got a bigger messiah complex than Blair (and look where his got us), but whats even worse is that he tries to dress if up in totally and utterly unconvincing self-deprecation
He's a madman!!!
lack of integrity........
Well, pushing academy schools when he was at the education department, even though internal studies showed they didn't work, and it's now pretty clear the benefits are marginal at best, and at worst they're outright dangerous and ill-thought through.
But because ultimately he's a journalist, a good story trumps tiresome facts.
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EDIT: shameless quote from Wikipedia:
At its 2013 conference, Gove was criticised by the National Association of Head Teachers, whose members condemned the "climate of bullying, fear and intimidation" they said he had created during his time as Education Secretary
Why not mention Turkey in the Referendum ? Politicans have been falling over themselves to cosy up to them and their EU membership, visafree travel etc. If Turkey is so unlikely give us a binding referendum on each new country.
The Leave campaign messaging was no better/worse than Remain.
Knifing Boris was a competitive move, is that a lack of integrety ? It was a surprise to me as I thought he had accepted he personally could not win and so would gomwith Boris as his best shot.
Letting his mrs write for the press 😯 Surely that shows an open mindedness, are ministers husbands/wives supposed to just sit at home.
I get people don't like him and I can't see him appealing to the electorate at a GE but he's as much of a what you see is what you get politican as anyone.
Pishing the Academy agenda is a political choice and an open one. So teachers where grumpy, always going to be the case when things change
Its a bizarre old world when I've started to look on Daves coalition with misty-eyed fondness.
One things for sure. Whatever is coming next, and whichever Poundland Thatcher is at the helm, its going to be an absolute ****ing nightmare!! 😯
It's a bit early to be drinking rockape!
Thought you guys would like that one! 🙂
Actually, whilst I do agree with much of what is written...I do feel from limited knowledge that he believes completely and utterly what he says and backs it up with deeds. Therefore he has integrity. For example, my take on the Boris knifing was that following the shock result, he quickly realised Boris wasn't up to it, or didn't want it and took the only action possible, which was to back up his rhetoric with standing for the position to see it through. Have we done this:
Knifing Boris was a competitive move, is that a lack of integrety ? It was a surprise to me as I thought he had accepted he personally could not win and so would gomwith Boris as his best shot.
That is a pretty good definition of "lack of integrity" right there.
I did say that not long after the general election, people will begin to appreciate the lib dems calming affect on the tories.binners - Member
Its a bizarre old world when I've started to look on Daves coalition with misty-eyed fondness.
i think they'll do not bad at the next GE tbh.
I agree seosamh
i think they'll do not bad at the next GE tbh.
Seeing as the Tory party is about to head out to the wilder UKIP-friendly right wing, and the labour party is morphing in to the Socialist Workers Party, it'd be nice to have a centre ground party that normal people could vote for
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the labour party is morphing in to the Socialist Workers Party
😆 I think you're too harsh on Corbyn to be honest. You're falling for the media bias. Which is intense, the PLP obviously have their pals in the media and well a labour revolt suits the tories just fine.
Corbyn would probably be quite effective with the backing of the PLP.
There needs to be a split.
Even for you jamby,suggesting that the problem with the academies was teachers resistant to change is a belter. Right up there with you still using the £350 million claim on the EU thread a full week after your leave overlords had declared it BS.
I think you're too harsh on Corbyn to be honest. You're falling for the media bias.
you know what I mean fella? Let me rephrase it...
The Labour party is an unelectable ****ing shambles, completely incapable of being an effective opposition, when that is what is needed more than any time in history?
Is that better? 😉
yes! 😆
Out of curiousity, could Corbyn just boot out the 170 or so that are rebelling against him and allow the membership to re-select who they like for the next general election?
If Turkey is so unlikely give us a binding referendum on each new country.
You might want to Google "representative democracy" and jump back in when you have a clue.
I'd say that the EU delegating decision-making to national referendums at this point is as likely as ... well ... as likely as Boris and Gove painting something truthful on the side of a bus.
Out of curiousity, could Corbyn just boot out the 170 or so that are rebelling against him and allow the membership to re-select who they like for the next general election?
I was thinking that myself. Aren't the cobynites trying to mount a coup that aims to have non-believers de-selected?
Is it possible that overnight the Lib Dems could suddenly find themselves with 170 new MP's
Politics in this country, post referendum, is now so bonkers that nothing would surprise me any more
binners - Member
the labour party is morphing in to the Socialist Workers PartyI think you're too harsh on Corbyn to be honest.
I think that is pretty fair - the language he uses - comrades, referring to our friends from hezbollah, the way he dresses, it's all stereotypical SWP type stuff like you see around the student union bars being angry all the time and banging their fists against the bar.
When I was at Cardiff (time of Scargill) a tory politician was coming down to the great hall in the students union for some big debate - BBC cameras where there, etc.
There was a guy selling socialist worker at the side of the stage.
Before it all started, but with a full crowd in the hall, a guy named Lance, who wasn't wearing his usual Barbour type garb, went up and bought a copy, then stepped up to the centre of the stage, lifted the paper up and proceeded to tear it into halves in front of the mostly rabid left wing students.
Obviously it all went off then and the debate/whatever-it-was never happened. Made the BBC Wales news though.
Apparently Corbyn has decided that hezbollah are not his friends because they ARE anti-semitic.
Allegedly what changed his mind was that someone from the PLP actually got out the hezbollah constitution and read him the relevant sections.
But its a perfectly reasonable mistake to make .. for years .. despite being told over and over again .. something that hezbollah are really proud of .. so much that they wrote it down for everyone to see.
Allegedly what changed his mind was that someone from the PLP actually got out the hezbollah constitution and read him the relevant sections.
A politician being told he's wrong and changing his mind?
Brilliant!
it's all stereotypical SWP type stuff like you see around the student union bars
Is it hell.
I think that is pretty fair
Which is as much an indication of your politics as it is his
the way he dresses,
So we choose our leaders according to how they dress? CFH for President!!
the way he dresses,
FFS! If you're going to criticize him at least do it properly. There are many problems with Corbyn, and his mates in momentum, but to write them off as socialist workers is a pretty lazy tabloid-esque analysis.
[url= https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/08/jeremy-corbyn-labour-negotiations-europe-tories-exploit-cheap-labour ]His latest piece in the grauniad[/url] is actually pretty good. It offers a sensible analysis of the brexit vote and what should happen next from a left-progressive viewpoint. Not very socialist worker really. If it was he'd be calling for a general strike by now.
CFH for President!!
**** off! Did you not see that picture of him on an aeroplane in his gym pumps?
a story did pop up on my google now about the PLP scarpering around trying to find out who actually owns the name of the labour party and the assets, the leader or general secretary or something. My guess is they didn't like what they found, hence their sheepishness of late.binners - Member
Out of curiousity, could Corbyn just boot out the 170 or so that are rebelling against him and allow the membership to re-select who they like for the next general election?
I was thinking that myself. Aren't the cobynites trying to mount a coup that aims to have non-believers de-selected?
Is it possible that overnight the Lib Dems could suddenly find themselves with 170 new MP'sPolitics in this country, post referendum, is now so bonkers that nothing would surprise me any more
He really should just sack them all. by elections galore, why not, democracy seems to be the in thing, lets go for it see what happens.
I would guess that the majority of the public vote for their favoured politicians based upon how similar they are to them, how they dress, how they speak and who they remind them off... way more than their vote being based upon a critique of their proposed policies etc....Nigel Farage being a prime example.
So we choose our leaders according to how they dress?
he definitely chooses his clothing to fit in with his political leanings, the hat in particular.
from his black Leninist cap to his ever-present beard, there is something of the stage proletarian about him. His keen lack of vanity is its own kind of pretension. “He is the only man I know who buys his clothes at the Dalston Co-Op,” as another Islington activist waspishly put it to me.
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Maybe Corbyn should follow Alex Ferguson's motto..."sack the C***s".
**** off! Did you not see that picture of him on an aeroplane in his gym pumps?
Not just dodgy pumps....big flappy Chinos! Sooo last decade! 😳
Maybe Corbyn should follow Alex Ferguson's motto..."sack the C***s".
A good idea, only slightly hindered by the fact that pretty much everyone has already resigned
Is there not already a Corbyn thread.
The tories (the party in government) are tearing themselves apart, the economy is up shit street, the country is divided, and the ship of fools get distracted by the ****ing cap Corbyn is wearing. Murdoch must be laughing his evil head of at such a bunch of gullable ****ing idiots.
If you're going to criticize him at least do it properly.
But.. left winger! Trotskyite Socialist Worker Student! LEEEFTIEEE!!!
Ironic that the least credible statements around this issue are the ones criticising someone's credibility.. but they are the ones that seem to have the most believers.
The tories (the party in government) are tearing themselves apart
They're really not though, are they? Asking which Tory leader you get out of that shower of *s is all fairly academic. They're all on the same mission. Its not like any one of them is likely to suddenly discover some previously dormant social conscience, and humanity, is it? Some heartfelt empathy with the working classes? A burning desire for social justice?
Now they're unconstrained by the whole Europe thing, and don't have an opposition worthy of the name, they'll all unite in their goal of bending us all over, and going in dry.
What would be funny, if it wasn't so tragic, is listening to all the prospective PM's banging on about equality and opportunity, and governing for the many not the few, when we all know full well, that once they pull the plug on the EU, they'll be having a bonfire of workers rights, and gleefully *ing the lot of us over as they turn the UK into a corporatist neoliberal theme park
Murdoch must be laughing his evil head of at such a bunch of gullable **** idiots.
Of course he is: He got what he wanted with the Brexit vote and now he's sitting back and orchestrating this whole affair, including the public humiliation of Corbyn.
[i] When I go into Downing Street they do what I say; when I go to Brussels they take no notice.[/i]
Rupert Murdoch
cant tell if her blogs been hacked or shes just absolutely batshit
http://www.andrealeadsom.com/working-for-you/andre a's-blog/a-tory-mums-recipe-for-a-perfect-british-society/27
A Tory mum's recipe for a perfect British society
Take one cup of Anglo Saxon determination;Mix with a jugful of Muslim respect for the family;
Stir in a pinch of traditional Asian modesty;
Whisk with two tablespoonsful of military respect for authority;
Serve on a bed of East European work ethic;
And enjoy with a full glass of British belief in the freedom of the individual!
There is a serious point here - we in the so called 'Western civilisations' have so much to learn from other cultures, and they would stand to gain so much by learning from ours. We don't have all the answers - far from it... but nor do any other culture or religion. It's only by mutual respect, a willingness to learn and the courage to live together that we will build a better life for our children.
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