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I’m after a bit of advice on a new camera.

I’ve been using a Nikon D50 for quite a few years now (18-55 & 70-200mm lenses) but for a while now I’ve just been leaving it at home. I’m no longer fussed for walking around with a bulky camera but at the same time don’t want to be limited to an IPhone only.

To cut to the chase having a wider zoom range is great but most pictures I take at 200mm zoom end up poor quality or still don’t show the subject well so a shorter range should be fine and then…

- I like having a view finder.

- I’m guessing a conventional compact would suit most of my needs in which case which one?

- Is it worth looking at system cameras as a half-way house?

- I’d like to spend under £300 (much less if possible)

Thoughts welcome, ta.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:09 pm
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I’ve been using a Nikon D50 for quite a few years now (18-55 & 70-200mm lenses)

To cut to the chase having a wider zoom range is great but most pictures I take at 200mm zoom end up poor quality or still don’t show the subject well so a shorter range should be fine and then…

Which 70-200mm lens do you have? Their f2.8 is very sharp at 200mm, and the D50, whilst old, should still get nice shots.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:27 pm
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I ended up using my Canon 40D + 17-55 f/2.8 about once a year because of the size/weight of it all.  Recently sold it all to MPB Photographic and bought a used Fuji X-T1 and the mid-range 18-55 lens.  *Much* lighter and I still have the option of swapping lenses if I fancy buying a telephoto one day.  I can really endorse the Fuji X stuff.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:38 pm
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and bought a used Fuji X-T1

They do look excellent, although I still think I'd end up using my iPhone more as it's always on me....


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:45 pm
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I borrowed a compact Sony HX90 with x 30 optical zoom (apparently equivalent to 300mm) for a recent holiday.

I used my iphone 90% of the time.  It is just so easy to adjust shutter speed, exposure on the iphone that using a compact feels slow and not intuitive.

Also the HX90 has quite a slow lens f5.6 or something so using the zoom became difficult.  Also there was the perennial problem of compacts taking ages to actually take a picture, so it was useless trying to take pictures of Golden Eagles taking fish out of the sea etc.

It did do well at portrait pics as you say at around the 200mm zoom range, but that was the only thing I used it for.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:51 pm
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Pretty much love my Canon EOS 100D with 24mm Pancake on. (Makes for a tiny full feature SLR)

I had the same issue, had an SLR and never used it because of bulk and weight, wanted newer smaller, maybe mirrorless but was offered the 100D at great price and really like it.

It's not a popular camera with "i wanna be a pro set" mainly because of it's child toy size so can be picked up for a couple of hundred quid.

I can still stick the 70-250 on if I need a longer lens

It's just so small it goes everywhere with me!

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& no I don't have massive hands.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 12:56 pm
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A Micro 4/3 should be pretty much perfect if you are happy with a S/H body.

Noticeably small than DSLRs, particularly with longer zoom lenses. Have a huge selection of bodies & top quality lenses. The Fuji systems are also very good.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:00 pm
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Lumix GX800 is a nice little camera, with the kit lens it is great to carry everywhere. Or nice with a small prime. Though no viewfinder. Available for £300 with the kit lens.

Or the GX80 or GX7 is a bit bigger, and has a viewfinder.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:10 pm
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Olympus OM-D E-M10?


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:16 pm
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The little Fuji X30 (or the older X10 and X20) are great for a walk around camera, I got an X-Pro 1 as my main camera and the X30 to just take around with the kids, does a great job even with its little sensor. This is from the X30

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Others to look at are the Sony RX100 range (I think they had a viewfinder from the Mk2) or something like the Panny TZ100 or TZ90 are spoken of well.

I don't really know about DSLRs these days, but mirrorless wise it's hard to go wrong with Fuji, but their lenses can be expensive without the likes of Simga makings lenses for them (hence I use vintage lenses now....)

M4/3 is a good system as well but I've not used it since the Panny G1....


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:25 pm
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I have a panasonic gf1 which i used to love but it is still a pain in the hoop to carry its its  a ballache to kerp charged.

I'd love a phone like camera that is just a camera.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:30 pm
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Sony A6000..you'll probably have to get a second hand one for under £300 though.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 1:54 pm
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Ive got a Lumix DMC-FZ1000 which considering is only a bridge camera, does everything and more that you'd ever need from such a camera.  Therefore the
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Posted : 06/08/2018 2:05 pm
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The best camera is the one you will always take with you.

Which is why I have ended up using a waterproof Nikon Coolpix. I wear it on a loop round my neck on the bike, and it's small enough to slip in a shirt pocket.

The pictures aren't as good as I could get from my SLR, but I'm getting pictures in all weathers I would not otherwise have taken.

As a matter of interest are any of the full frame (or large sensor) cameras waterproof yet?


 
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re: waterproof cameras with big sensors...

Nikon AW1 is a fully waterproof camera with a 1" sensor.

Sizewise 1" is to aps-c as aps-c is to full frame, (ish) but probably not what you're looking for.

Most pro SLRs combined with with pro lenses are "weather sealed" and perform pretty well (I've seen 7dii and EOS1dx ii cameras out in some pretty severe wind and rain) but the level of trust you put in the sealing (particularly between lens and camera) is probably a product of necessity and your level of insurance.

Personally I prefer to think of the seals as a good barrier to condensation and a few unavoidable splashes, but put my trust in a decent camera cover 🙂


 
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Canon 1dx is water resistant as are some of the lenses. Waterproof though still really means getting a housing.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:03 pm
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As a matter of interest are any of the full frame (or large sensor) cameras waterproof yet?

Depends what you mean by waterproof, I happily use my Nikon D4S in the rain without any cover, it's waterproof enough to cope fine. Not going to submerge it in any puddles though....


 
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i think the pentax ks range are weather sealed. the lumix g9 and some m43 lenses are too but a bit spendy. i've just moved away from nikon to go to m43 and loving it, have a gx80 i picked up from mpb for not much and a G7 for work use. The nikon 1 system is good too despite it being fairly slated by the wannabe pro crowd. just discontinued now too so may be some bargains about, so the AW1 mentioned above may be a good shout.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 3:38 pm
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Thanks for  the input  everyone, it’s given me a few things to think about.

To clarify I’m not unhappy with the pictures I get from the D50 it’s that I want something smaller and more convenient. Absolute image quality isn’t too much of an issue for what will generally be snaps.


 
Posted : 06/08/2018 9:24 pm
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Defo worth checking out the  Panasonic TZ range then. 2nd hand TZ90 will come in under budget (new is £20 over)


 
Posted : 07/08/2018 10:00 am
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Got to agree with Tiger, I've got a 100D for work, it's a great lightweight DSLR that does almost all the stuff my more expensive camera does, without the faff/weight.

For comparison my 'big' camera is a Pentax k5, it's completely bombproof with a solid metal body, weather sealed, lots of dials and buttons to set shots up.  But it weighs a bloody ton compared to the Canon. And TBH if all you want is .jpg's out of the camera the Canon does a beer job of that. The Pentax on the other hand produces much better RAW pictures in low light, it just doesn't do quite so much 'in camera post processing'.

My comments on the Canon probably equally apply to whatever the cheapest Nikon is, I'm not that partisan, if you already have Nikon accessories then have a look at 3200/3300/3400's.


 
Posted : 07/08/2018 10:28 am
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Depends what you mean by waterproof...

Actually waterproof.

I had (still have it somewhere) a Nikonos for surf and snorkelling activities, and got into the habit of carrying it on my motorbike because I could keep it accessible even in bad weather.


 
Posted : 07/08/2018 9:49 pm
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Quick update.

I’ve just ordered a Canon eos100d. No choice but to go secondhand but it looks good and was the right price. I’ll use the 18-50mm lens on my upcoming holiday before going for a fixed length one (possibly a Canon 40mm)

Thanks for the tips and suggestions.


 
Posted : 13/08/2018 8:39 pm
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Nice!

I have to say that I've never really got on with a fixed lens - could be that I've always had zoom lenses, so struggle with a fixed one.
I've got the Nikon 50mm & a Tamron 90mm Macro. They are fine if I want specific shots & the 50mm I bought using an Amazon voucher I got when I left the last place I worked at, so it didn't cost me anything. But, if I leave it on to try as my 'everyday' lens I find it a bit long for a lot of subjects & too short for the rest. I do wonder if perhaps the 35mm would have been a better option.


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 7:46 am
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We're on holiday at the moment and I've dragged my 60d with a big sigma 18-75 lens with us. I've shoved the old nifty fifty on instead and I'm not missing (much) of the bigger lens.

Maybe a 35mm lens would be better for me, but I'm also loving that little 100d. Oh dear, we're meant to be saving up after this trip 😉


 
Posted : 14/08/2018 8:18 am
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You can always stitch if you want a wide angle shot....


 
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