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My son decided at aged 6 he wants to be a wildlife photographer, he's been using various points and shoot camera and has spent 3 years saving up. He's now 9 (for those not good at maths) and has about £300, we can top up more if needed. His grandpa is a a good photographer and is taking him shopping but might be a bit out of touch so I thought I'd check with the stw hive mind. I know nothing about cameras so go easy!


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 8:54 am
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9 years old and £300 is a tough ask for a wildlife photography set up!

Is he interested in insects? in which case a lot of half-decent compact and bridge cameras have a macro mode which would help, so look out for one of those.

Otherwise, for birds and other UK wildlife keep an eye out for something like a secondhand Nikon P900 bridge. Good zoom, can be used manually, but without the faff and huge cost of separate lenses.

I've been photographing wildlife for a while now, both UK and abroad, and I love it, but the cost of the kit makes your eyes water!

https://www.instagram.com/tim_russon/

Depending how tech savvy he is then it will be worth trying editing software of some sort if he gets interested - all pictures benefit from a bit of an edit and crop.

Best of luck to him!


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:25 am
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+1 for something with a good macro. You won't get a pro level zoom and zoom pictures are hard but you will get a decent macro. That gives great opportunities for bugs and plants. I used to love take mega close ups with my Panasonic Lumix LX3. Not sure what the latest model is but it's a good camera for learning as there are lots of manual options but can do auto and point and shoot. Its also quite compact


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:37 am
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That one above looks great.

Alternative option could be

Olympus tough tg 6

Reduced from 450 to 310 on Amazon at the mo

Not as good wildlife camera but pretty good as a nine year old proof take anywhere


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:40 am
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Not thinking a wildlife set up just yet, but something he can learn the basics on before investing in a 5foot lens!!


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 9:41 am
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It depends what he wants.

I'll talk about nikon dslrs a they are what I know. But the same applies to Canon and even Olympus mirrorless.

Prices have dropped like a stone on used gear. My Nikon D90 has a resale value of about £100. But it works perfectly and takes great pictures.

So I'd go used. Maybe a Nikon D3300 at £174

https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-digital-slr-cameras/used-nikon-digital-slr-cameras/nikon-d3300/

That leaves about £125 for a lens

https://www.mpb.com/en-uk/used-equipment/used-photo-and-video/used-lenses/used-nikon-fit-lenses/

The afp 70 300 VR dx is only just out of budget and would give a genuinely capable wildlife set up (but the body might need a firmware update for that lens)

This sort of explains why you should buy that camera and lens

https://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 10:16 am
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I'd also recommend second hand. If it's about learning then a DSLR. You can get an EOS 20d/30d/400d for £50-£80 and a 70-300 lens for £110. That 70-300 is slow but he's 9 and plenty get good results with it.

I'm trying to remember what age my Dad "lent" me his spare SLR, I think about 10. There were rules about not changing lenses without supervision (to avoid mirror damage). Budget a few pounds for spare lens caps and a protection filter.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 11:05 am
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Lumix FZ200 or the latest incarnation of it.
Leica lens that maintains f2.8 at 24x mag plus
Loads of other features. Yes it's a bridge but he's nine.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 11:24 am
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@tlr & anyone else interested, my neices partners work from t'other side of the world.

https://instagram.com/timhackwood?igshid=1oggytfqmi7k8


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 12:42 pm
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Thanks some useful.info to look at.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:06 pm
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Has no one else marvelled at the fact that a 6 year old decided on something and saved up THREE HUNDRED QUID diligently to pursue that goal??

That’s awesome for a start, he’s gonna go far.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:11 pm
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What about something from Olympus?

Can get a second hand EM1 or EM5 for circa £200 then the Olympus 14-150 lens for £160. Would give him a fairly lightweight setup and a focal range of 28-300mm in one lens.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:21 pm
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Recommend what you have! I have this, it’s a few years old now but is so flexible and have a fantastic zoom function, sure you’ll be able to find a S/h one for your Son because mine cost £250 new a few years back, and you have to take the battery out to charge it so it’s a bit “old tech” now but the quality of the images is what you are after isn’t it.

Edit: just looked on eBay and you can buy them for £100 s/h fully refurbished & warranty

Cannon Power Shot SX500 IS


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:24 pm
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That's a first world problem right there!
Having to take the battery OUT of the camera for charging.
Pfft 😁


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:28 pm
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I’d be looking at something mirrorless and second hand for that. I’ve got a Canon M50 which is great but most of the big makes have a similar model in their lineup. If grandad likes Nikon for instance then get a Nikon as he can borrow his lenses and he can learn how to use it from him.

Long lenses are expensive, a standard kit lens will get him started, maybe a prime lens next for some macro stuff.


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:29 pm
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I know eh!
But it does seem “old skool” taking the battery out 🤪


 
Posted : 31/12/2019 1:29 pm
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Just interested, how did your son get on with his shopping trip ?


 
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