what?
So I like taking pictures and generally getting better, apparently...I am an enthusiastic amateur in my head but had some good feedback and I want to learn more....... like the slr but it is cumbersome and generally big also 18 to 55mm limits some of the things I would like to do, plus want to avoid the stereotype of middle age man with a camera attached to neck with BIG lens.
Using it on auto and manual settings so learning. Other camera is a Canon Ixus 75 which is getting long in the tooth and using it I found slow to respond/time lag
I would like something that has the same picture quality or better.
Smaller/Compact
range of lens
fast (ish) response time from pressing the button to taking shot
multiple shoot sequence for sport
video hd
so seen these and wonder what people thought
OLYMPUS PEN E-PL5 DZK Compact System Camera with 14-42 mm + 40-150 mm II R Lens
or
PANASONIC Lumix DMC-GF6KEB-K Compact System Camera with 14-42 mm Telephoto Zoom Lens
or any other options please
Both solid choices I reckon. In compact system, Micro 4/3 (those two you mentioned) has the best range of lenses and is probably cheapest; Sony has best sensor performance; Nikon has somewhat better focusing performance; Pentax is tiny; Canon is... not very good, last thing I read..?
That Oly has the newer 16mp sensor which is much better than previous 12mp ones and rather good apparently. Not sure about the Panny. In the shop the Oly are very fast to focus even though it's theoretically the slower method - you'd have to compare it to the Nikon if you really want moving object tracking focus.
If you want a Lumix, I'm selling a GF2... (-:
The Oly has inbuilt image stabilisation whereas the Panasonic range do it in the lenses, means that you can use almost any lens out there with the appropriate M4/3 to say Nikon F mount adaptor, as long as the lens is capable of manual focus and aperture control and still retain image stabilisation.
Someone on here recently posted a 'new camera' question and ended up getting a Samsung NX3000.
Looking at the reviews, it seems like a great camera especially for the price; uses the larger APS-C sized sensor.
Not sure about the availability of lenses though for Samsung.
I've had a play about with a Lumix GF6 and immediately wanted to get one to replace my Nikon compact. Can't justify it at the moment, but great camera for the money.
Yes, that samsung is great value. Look at Sony a6000 too or sony outlet has a7s very cheap at the moment (that's relative to their normal price).
I think both are good choices but I'll throw in a couple of things to think about
Think about stretching to the EPL-7 for better handling and the much better sensor. IMHO it not just another slight change. The new sensor is big step up in dynamic range and the extra proper control dial makes a differene
Consider the EZ lens for less bulk amd crucially for me when out and about one handed operation
the Omd 10 adds a view finder as well but then we are talking lots more mon
To me Sony seems better for bodies and worse for lenses
thanks folks for the replies, on the Olympus I can see a shoe for a flash and on the Pan it is integral, any thoughts on the best option?
To me Sony seems better for bodies and worse for lenses
I've owned both and I disagree 😉
Don't forget it's the lens + sensor combination that counts and giving away sensor real estate is a real handicap.
vondally - Memberthanks folks for the replies, on the Olympus I can see a shoe for a flash and on the Pan it is integral, any thoughts on the best option?
How often do you use flash currently? You might find there are some situations, when flash would be useful; indoor family events etc.
Having one ready to go is a definite bonus in certain situations, but I always try not to use flash unless absolutely necessary.
It looks like the Olympus flash will cost another £130 or so to fit that camera, but will probably be more powerful & more versatile than the fixed offering on the Panasonic (it looks like it does wireless flash so you can have the flash off camera).
But, are you likely to want to spend an extra £130 for a flash? If you are willing to spend that, would it be worth looking again at the cameras available to you?
Tough one really that only you can answer.
I've never had a camera without a flash and would be nervous about buying one. But, having said that I don't think I've taken many great shots when using the built in flash anyway, so could probably do without. Not much help, really....
E-PL7 comes with a flash in the box
http://www.olympus.co.uk/site/en/c/cameras/pen_cameras/pen/e_pl7/e_pl7_kits_boxcontents.html
Make sure you're happy doing without an integral viewfinder. I found the add on olympus one to be awkward to carry attached (and hassle not to have attached). External view finders are an expensive option compared to buying a camera with an integrated vf too. And... you can't use them at the same time as the flash.
I use a Nikon D40 & a Lumix LX5. there's a big difference between the SLR & Compact.The D40 & standard lens is tiny for a SLR but the Lumix is obviously smaller.I much prefer using the Nikon,on a sunny day the LX5 screen is hard to read.The advantage of the LX5 is that I can fit it in a pocket when out cycling,I take the Nikon when out on the mountainbike or motorcycle,also the LX5 has shut down in inclement weather,the little Nikon's never failed & it's faced all types of weather..
Regarding fast frame rates for sport,the D40 is fast enough,in comparison the LX5 is slow..
