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Where is the outrage?
Bump due to bug.
Depends whether his defence that he was taking medical supplies and thus it was an essential journey stands up.
Where is the outrage?
Im sure we can rely on you TJ...
Ruth Davidson, on the Lorraine show, said she is regularly driving to the Borders to see her parents.
It just shows the double standards.
Travelling to second homes like Catherine Calderwood did is expressly forbidden under the lockdown rules. Visiting parents to drop off medical supplies is considered an essential journey and is allowed but rage away TJ.
"A source close to the cabinet minister admitted that he had made the journey during lockdown conditions, but defended the trip by saying he dropped off food and medication, and did not enter the house. Jenrick later confirmed this in a tweet in which he said his parents were both self-isolating, because of age and his father’s medical condition, and he had respected social distancing rules.
Government instructions say: “You should not be visiting family members who do not live in your home.” The only exception is if they need help, such as having shopping or medication dropped off."
Seem like a non story to me.
He also travels to/from London back to his home in Hereford. Wouldn’t it make more sense to stop in his ‘second’ home in London?
The "taking medical supplies" excuse sounds pretty specious. They'd have to be medical supplies only he could obtain on their behalf, according to the article neighbours have been helping his parents out by shopping. The same neighbours could fetch prescriptions, or maybe one of the hundreds of thousands of NHS volunteers could do it for them.
It's rather galling that he's been a government spokesman on the issue, standing behind a podium saying "Stay Home - Protect The NHS - Save Lives, and that he addressed specifically that the public needed to forego family visits for Mother's Day.
We live in Leeds, My wife has been shopping for her mum in Halifax. Her mum is only in her 60's but has a form of lukemia or something so can't go out at all.
If what he says is true then it's no different to what my wife has done, should she stop?
The second home thing is a different matter though and should be stopped.
He went to visit his parents. Not his second home, his mistress or an s&m prostitute.
He travelled on his own with supplies and observed correct distance protocol.
Was it 100% strictly necessary? Probably not.
Did it show a bit of love and compassion? Yes it did.
In the grand scheme of politicians riding roughshod over the little guy it doesn't even feature.
Waste of outrage.
He also travels to/from London back to his home in Hereford. Wouldn’t it make more sense to stop in his ‘second’ home in London?
He should stay in his 'second home' in London for the duration, I don't think that's too much of an ask is it?
No outrage, just common sense, stay put in the worst affected area of the UK.
No problems with him dropping off supplies to his folks.
Do you really believe his story? He also has been caught travelling to and from his second home!
Considering others were getting supplies and prescriptions for his parents its obvious bollox
has a form of lukemia or something
Caring son-in-law alert
Your son is a Tory minister. Do you think you have any friends in a 60 mile radius?
Mr Jenrick, the MP for Newark in Nottinghamshire, said he had been in London on ministerial duties and left for what he described as a "family home" in Herefordshire to join his wife and children.
Is that any different anybody "going to work" and then returning home. As long as this particular home is now the families residence for the duration him returning to it after work shouldn't be an issue.
Loving the defense of the indefensible here
He drove 150 miles to visit his grandparents. Totally unneeded as they were already getting food and prescriptions delivered.
He then drove from one of his houses to another to be with his family.
this is a man who has stood on a podium telling the UK public not to make unneeded journeys caught making them!
Edit - 40 miles to his parents, 150 miles to his second home
Is that any different anybody “going to work” and then returning home.
Yes.
It does all seem a tad Norman Fry of 'little britain'...
Well it made the front page of the Guardian, Mail and Telegraph.
Maybe have a look on the comments section of the Mail website? There is normally enough outrage on there to keep anyone happy...
Calm down dears!
It's all alright because they're tories and everyone knows they are above the rules/law and make different rules/laws for the majority to adhere to
I hate conservative logic with a passion
He is in his second home, his first home is where his constituency is (mine) or should be. What's the point of having a second home that still leaves you with a long journey to work. You can be in King's Cross in just over an hour from Newark on the train, so why not have a flat London way when you're needed at work. It seems the MPs have forgotten about the expenses scandal already and I for one would like to see the end of safe seat tourism.
He needs to go to his family home to collect his £10k working from home expenses and his travelling to work expenses.
Proles.
Loving the defense of the indefensible here
He drove 150 miles to visit his grandparents. Totally unneeded as they were already getting food and prescriptions delivered.
Are you mad at the minister or Stephen Kinnock MP, you seem to be confused
has a form of lukemia or something
Caring son-in-law alert
I know, that sounded shit, I just can't remember what it is exactly. She's fine and it's all under control so it's not a major thing she tells us.
Back to the Tory MP, if he is driving to various addresses he should be dealt with the same as the Scottish Health woman.
But look at the lack of "hangings too good" response on here - some of it from the same folk who were positively frothing at the previous incident
This shows the manufactured outrage before was simply being used to attack the SNP government
No, it was an attack on the stupidity of one person in entirely different circumstances.
No, it was an attack on the stupidity of one person in entirely different circumstances.
+1
The crazy thing here is that we the public pay for a 2nd home to be bought for all these MPs in London. Roll on remote working for parliament.
He dorsnt own a home in his constituency. He owns one in london, one in Hertfordshire and rents one in Newark, his constituency.
No its exactly the same - its just he had a decent lie to trot out. Two unneeded journeys in breach of the guidance he himself was espousing. talk about beams and motes - some of you right wingers have an entire fence in your eyes
TJ - just calm down man. Every covid thread you’re going ballistic and it can’t be doing you any favours physically or mentally. You’re not going to change this, you’re not going to get a prize for winning an argument on here and all you’re doing is winding yourself up.
I live in the sticks. I have a lovely Ducati parked in the garage. Every day this week I’ve heard sports bikes thrashing up and down the roads and it’s infuriating until I realise I’m doing my bit by staying in and what I think of them isn’t going to change owt.
Just relax mate
EDIT: not being entirely honest - the Ducati is in bits (surprise!) but you get me drift
It's a case of do as I say not do as I do.
Rage away tj. I'm totally with you on this one. Sackable offence for me. This isn't just the normal hypocrisy, If you're job is to insist people stay at home and you ignore your own advice your as useful as a chocolate kettle.
Is he part of the problem or part of the solution? The former I think.
I’m making the 30 mile journey to drop food off for my brother and my parents once a fortnight, neighbours are helping where they can but they can’t get everything for them locally or do a big enough shop. The supermarket deliveries have been to unreliable to be of much use, so it’s been down to me. All within the government guidelines so I’ve not broken anything, seems he hasn’t either.
My parents and my brother now have protected slots with supermarkets so hopefully now they’ll be sorted.
Still Tories ay? Grrrrr! Outrageous!
Jenrick is in the wrong, but will get off on a technicality because of the medicine excuse.
Calderwood had no plausible justification for her actions. She was taking breaks at her second home with her family.
TJ – just calm down man. Every covid thread you’re going ballistic and it can’t be doing you any favours physically or mentally. You’re not going to change this, you’re not going to get a prize for winning an argument on here and all you’re doing is winding yourself up.
THIS ^^
+ dishing out (perceived) adult playground insults is not a good trait and harks back to one of the reasons I have rarely been on here since the bad old days of Padded Fred et al. Everything is not black and white and you would do yourself a favour if you remembered that occasionally.
some of you right wingers have an entire fence in your eyes
Hmmmm...... you have no idea what my political beliefs are but I shall leave it at that as you may take any further comment as an attack on the SNP 😉
Woody - apologies if it came over like that. Its just my frustration aimed at some folk who are judging this cabinet minister and the CMO of scotland by different standards.
I am not raging or angry - I intended to point out the hypocrisy
Edit - I am also frustrated by the holier than thou attitude some folk on here seem to be showing. Over interpreting the advice law and guidance and then attempting to apply that to others.
Delivering supplies to his parents fine.
But now's he's been caught lying about which is & isn't his second home
What a Muppet
C’mon it’s an easy mistake to make, getting confused about if your home is your mansion in the country or your London townhouse. We’ve all been there.
@TJ, have to say you've picked the wrong example here, Matt Hancock has been constantly seen disregarding coronavirus advice, as well as being a total failure as health minister, why not get into him?