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Unfortunately, the quiet loop road I live on has a mini sainsbury at one end and it seems their customers use the street as a turning circle, driving at wholly inappropriate speeds for the road.
Arco sell industrial speed bumps that just bolt in to place and in the absence of the council funding or agreeing to fund humps, can the residents buy and fit their own?
I think you know the answer to that one 🙂
You might consider a mannequin, in police uniform or maybe a child mannequin, not in uniform, but at the side of the road to slow them down
Instead of speed humps why not build your own stinger devices? 😆
I'm thinking it would be refused by the council but would it be then classed as vandalism?
Very frustrating as the kids can't play on the road unless I am out there listening for the speeders coming round the corners.
I wonder if saimsburys would fund it...it's their customers. Lottery nights are unbelievably bad.
fake speed camera?
Have you approached the council/police re: speeding and possibility of getting speedbumps installed ? Try your local councillors, they were instrumental in getting speed bumps installed near me.
if you place an obstruction on a public highway and a vehicle gets damaged you'd better have a bloomin good legal team as your bottom will be handed to you on a plate
Apply to be aa play street
Tried with the council and they are not interested. It is getting worse as the mini Market expands.
Go for your local councillors, they love pics in the local rag. Mention the kids playing aspects for more councillor kudos.
Can you not involve the local paper?
Tried with the council and they are not interested. It is getting worse as the mini Market expands.
I might try the councillor but I suspect I will be just one of many residents who live on a rat run and we won't be a priority case.
That's why I thought about a diy hump.
Buy you're own and install? Short answer, no. It would be classed as along the lines of an unauthorised obstruction in the Highway.
Lobby your local Councillor if you want speed humps put in. Or residents could [i]possibly[/i] raise the funds themselves and pay for the Council to install - but the Council would have to accept the future maintenance and liability, which may or may not be an issue.
Tried with the council and they are not interested.
If you just contacted the council highways people then no doubt they'd not be interested. But get in touch with your *local* parish councillors and you might get some more progress.
diy hump
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Put in a croc pit.
Should I collect video as evidence of need? Or might that incriminate the speeders?
Can o worms?
CM saw the same thing as me 😀
Fluorescent jacket, toy ray gun, clipboard.
Charliemungus....good spot.
I bet sainsburys would be more obliging than you think, worth getting together with them and taking hte proposal to the council.
Just bear in mind that speed bumps don't stop people speeding and they do wreck car suspension even at lower than the right speed when you live in he middle of them.
Wouldn't avg speed cameras be better as all speed bumps do is increase pollution, noise and speeding between bumps.
Sainsbury won't contribute as customers would be less likely to use the shop.
It's all progress isn't it
They won't put average speed cams over a short distance or where there's turn-offs (i.e. residential areas), the first for accuracy reasons, the second for obvious reasons). Sainsburys could be forced to comply (and pay) by the council I suspect.
Might make people think "I'm not going down there to turn round, it's full of speed bumps" though.
Hateful bloody things, mind. As CK says, I'm not sure I'd want them on a road I lived on. We spend all this money on maintaining roads and filling in potholes, then put artificial ones straight back on there.
The road is a loop off the main road with the store at one end junction. The straight section is around 60 metres.
Only 2 weeks ago someone when through a garden wall over egging and couldn't make the corner at the end.
I'm not sure I'd want them on a road I lived on
I'm glad the local council installed speed bumps on my local road. They do slow down the knob ends a bit, what else would have worked ?
Besides most speed bumps are actually more comfortably driven if you go over at 35 mph rather than crawling over them.
I'm glad the local council installed speed bumps on my local road. They do slow down the knob ends a bit, what else would have worked ?
Largely down to how and where they're placed. My old place had them scattered all over the village, all it did was make normal non-speeders suffer and invite more speeding because the gaps between were places to make up time - lethal. What works is visible policing, it doesn't annoy the non-speeders and it slows down/stops the speeders.
Besides most speed bumps are actually more comfortably driven if you go over at 35 mph rather than crawling over them.
Depends on your car and the bump I guess - the full-width ones at my old place would rip your axles off if you hit them at 35. There's plenty round here you can pass over at 30 without even realising they're there.
How old is the supermarket? If it's a recent development, call the planning department and ask them if there are any 106 monies left over. If they act dumb, ask them why they didn't secure any.
I think they were ruled out due to the road being residential along its whole length and needing to maintain driveway access etc.
Very frustrating as the kids can't play on the road
You let kids play in the road ? whats wrong with the garden?
I'm aware of cases where people have put up "official" child playing signs, 20mph speed limit signs etc. That will help.
Drop me an email and I'll dig out an article on it.
When I were a kid, if I'd "played in the road," I'd have got a right kippering.
They have wrecked the lawn pulling j turns!
And the speeders are noisy and I don't what them coming through my front room.
Enough reason?
We always played in the road when we were kids.
However if a supermarket was being planned on my street I would object to it at planning, which I'm sure the OP did?
Other alternative is to move house to some where with quiter streets
I bet nobody would query it for ages if you installed it in the middle of the night with hard hats and fluorescents on.
The shop was originally your little corner shop in a size premises. They then knocked through to the next door and recently sainsbury took over so it's only a small place that has grown over time and the saimsburys backing has made it v popular.
Yeah, they knocked down paradise and put up a parking lot
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you can DIY if you do it properly and discretely but it will get ripped out eventually (deny everything) and it's definitely not legal
stick a fake Gatso up, it's been done legally before now
there will be neighbourhood policing meetings so turn up there with anyone else on the street who cares
buy a share in Sainsbury's turn up at the AGM and ask an awkward question, also write to chairman and chief exec (send video clips)
and your only hope......move
Stealth road works / no entry signs etc. Just do it in the middle of the night
We used to live on small quiet country that attracted more than its fair share of racers. I used to fantasize about setting up a hologram set off by cars going over a certain speed. Could keep changing the vision to keep it fresh.... tree falling across road one day, herd of cows wandering out another, maybe some fluorescent aliens at night etc...
Moved to the end of a cul-de-sac now and kids play at our end of the street all the time. Still be nice to add a 10mph limit and a bit of traffic calming.
Occasionally fire off the flash on your digital camera.Very effective in the evening 😉
What you need to do, in the dead of night, 'accidentally' drop a load of concrete stuff onto the road, in the shape of a speed-hump. By morning it will have set rock-hard. Chances are the local council will do bugger all about it if they're anything like my local one. It's a right sod to remove, and will cost loads, as that patch of road will need to be stripped and re-tarmacced. That process alone, even if it were to take place, will put the road out of action for several weeks or even months, going by Conscientious British Workers™ standards.
There's a patch of concrete on the roundabout junction with Grove Road and Old Ford Road, London E3. I saw the mixer truck which dropped it. That was over ten years ago, maybe fifteen, and it's still there.
This is what happens when Tesco/Asda/Sainsburys etc develop. You need to campaign at the planning application stage which is obviously too late now. Let this be a warning to others who dont bother getting involved in the planning process.
Now you're best bet is probably demonstrate, leaflet etc right outside the store and make yourself a pain to the company. Let them know you're telling everyone they are blighting the area. They will jump in the light of the publicity,
C
Have you spoken to the right people in the council? They must have a road safety team somewhere.
Any ideas here?
[url= http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/ ]http://www2.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/[/url]
Google "Community Speed Watch" for some DIY camera action.
Buy up every single house in the road, then it's only you who will need to access the road. Then apply to turn the road into a private road and take on all the maintenance. Then put some big F'off gates at the end. ....and some Claymores. .....and some snipers.
Humps have been proven not to work on a street next to mine(residential area) The humps being on a bus route were badly damaged by the snow ploughs clearing clearing the route earlier in the year. The road had to be relaid and the residents campaigned to not have the humps replaced(did not want them in first instance) Speed checks before and after have proved traffic is slower now than when the humps were in place due to people speeding up between the humps ❗ Traffic noise is also less for the same reason. Other measures are being considered simply because of the number of kids in the area that have to cross the road to get to school. Does`nt matter what they do in the evenings or weekends 💡
Buy an old banger and park it badly. More effective than a speed hump.
Is it only you that's affected, or do you neighbours feel the same way - if the latter, then what you want to do is get together and start making yourselves a pain in the ass to anyone who has the power to effect change. Don't waste your time debating with people who aren't decision makers. Generally speaking, decision makers in councils, corporations etc, don't like situations like this dragging on, and will send an order to the relevant people to get it sorted.
Over the years, I've found the trick is to present the problem, and whatever viable solutions you can come up with - start off being reasonable, and don't play dirty (papers etc) until you've exhausted the rational route.
Of course, if that fails, then you may have to do a little "wet work" 🙂
Just scatter some carpet tacks and broekn glass across the road. It works a treat.
You want to do something like this really [url= http://www.sustrans.org.uk/what-we-do/liveable-neighbourhoods/diy-streets ]DIY Streets[/url]- talk to your councillor about it to see if the council can fund it. As above the highways team will not be the slightest bit interested if there's no pressure from the councillors - who do you think sets their budgets?
It could be *your* kids face next time. Oh wait...
It's a road, not a playground. Let them destroy your own garden instead of all the neighbors cars with their bikes and footballs. You could even turn killroy off and take them to the local park if your grass is worth more than their saftey. The problem isn't road traffic, its lazy parenting.
The problem isn't road traffic, its lazy parenting.
Car is king. Why on earth should drivers be slightly inconvenienced to make the road safer?
Your local councillors will be more helpful - this is exactly the kind of local issue they like to slap over their re-election flyers.
Otherwise, I remember something about a group of residents on one Bristol street being used as a throughfare, who clubbed together and started parking diagonally continental-style and put huge square flower tubs in the road, to make it narrower and chicaney. The non-standard look of the street dissuaded people from using it and dropped speeds dramatically. The council ripped it all out eventually, but it did force them to do something for the residents.
Just don't get the speedbumps sited outside your house (find a grumpy neighbour...). I remember the joys of cars slowing, kerrlump over speedpad, car revving away at the girlfriends old house in the dead of night...
Surprised no-one has suggested getting yourself (or maybe a small child) killed by a speeding car. The council usually acts following such events. Would be for the whole street's benefit after all.
Talk to your neighbours and get everyone to park their cars out on the street on alternate sides of the road so anyone coming down it has to do so by weaving between them. After a while people will probably work out that it is quicker not to come down the road.
Ooh... just had a flashback to reading Viz Top Tips
It's a road, not a playground. Let them destroy your own garden instead of all the neighbors cars with their bikes and footballs. You could even turn killroy off and take them to the local park if your grass is worth more than their saftey. The problem isn't road traffic, its lazy parenting.
that's useful...
so wanting it to be safe for kids to play on a quiet street without speeding motorist is bad parenting is it...
and no, they wont play football near cars.
did you read this through, what about the car that went through the garden wall....this OK in your world too?
There are speed humps outside my house and they make no difference to car speed but make a huge racket as suspension hits the limits / dustbin lorries crash over them. Over-rated in my opinion. Van drivers (not owner / drivers) are the worst - just hit them at full pelt and someone else pays for the new shocks....
that's useful...
It's also correct. (Modern) roads are put in to allow the passage of traffic, not to give unsupervised kids somewhere to play. How about teaching road sense / taking responsibility?
Why not apply for the road to be cropped/a dead end? If someone put speedbumps on my road I'd get upset. Awful insidious things.
Move house?
(Modern) roads are put in to allow the passage of traffic, not to give unsupervised kids somewhere to play.
Not convinced by that actually. Many modern roads are dead ends specifically to make it safer for kids. If it's being used as a turn-around then that's not right.
Kid's playing on the road?
I think that Darwin was right.
Not condoning speeders, but roads are for cars, parks are for kids to play in.
Just fit your own - nighttime - get it all prepped and fit it. claim ignorance and stupidity if caught
I take the point that roads are for cars but I grew up playing on my street (less cars around mind).
So forget the kids issue, what about excessive speed generally. I'll say it again, A CAR WENT THROUGH A GARDEN WALL DUE TO TRAVELLING TO FAST ON A V SMALL ROAD
Cougar - Member
that's useful...
It's also correct. (Modern) roads are put in to allow the passage of traffic, not to give unsupervised kids somewhere to play. How about teaching road sense / taking responsibility?
don't pass comment on someone you don't know please, or judge my parenting skills.
claim ignorance and stupidity if caught
Yeah, because that's always a legitimate defence.
Oh, and my kids play on the road all the time. Nice little cul-de-sac nobody does more than 10mph down.
aracer - Member"claim ignorance and stupidity if caught"
Yeah, because that's always a legitimate defence.
Works for me usually
roads are for cars, parks are for kids to play in.
Is there a park outside your house?
no....
...and I wish I had not mentioned the crime of wanting to keep the street safe for my kids so that some deek doesn't wipe them out speeding if they happen to be neglected and go on to the pavement....
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