[Closed] buying a new car......thoughts.

Given how much a car loses as soon as it's out of the showroom, I find it hard to justify a new one. Even 2-3 years old should give you 10 years of low-mileage motoring without any hassle. Like you though, a car/van is a tool to me so shiney, shiney, fast etc doesn't mean anything to me.

You should be able to get a 6 month old one with next to no miles for £1,000's cheaper.

Good car the Yeti, go,for an ex demo with some additions to it for far less than a new one.

In the same mindset as you, it needs to be a functional, utility item. Would never buy new, really why would you when the second hand market is so good. All our most recent/ current vehicles ( we also tend to keep for around 10 years) have had 30-60k miles on at purchase, bought for a fraction of the new/forecourt price, and have done/ are doing the job admirably. Something with a few years & miles on it should do just fine 🙂

all 3 back seats lift out and leave a huge boot space.

Not had a look at the Octavia? The boot is about double the size, although the seats don't lift out (they do fold flat though).

If you're buying new and keeping for 10 years why not?

We do this with my wifes' cars and by the time 10 years or so are past the depreciation is long gone - her current car was the best part of £40k and is now 3.5 years old with 60k on it - so based on her last Land Rover this should manage about 7-8 years.

Decent cars these days will go for 10 years with no/few problems, in my view 15 easily do-able all depending on milage, type of driving etc. My 9 year old car, bought new, stills feels fresh. That being said a brand new car is a luxury, you're paying extra to get exactly what you want, colour, spec, latest model etc. You have to decide if thats worth it versus 6-12 month old car. We've done both and always kept cars a long time

The Yeti is a great car btw

If you're wealthy why not. You only live once.

If you're smart +1 FunkyDunc. Use the money saved for travel or whatever.

If you're a car lover then sure go for a new one.

Check the prices on drive the deal dot com.

A friend of mine just bought a brand new MX5. He likes it a lot. It is a very practical, down-to-earth car which would be perfect for you. Far more sensible than a Skoda.

I have a Yeti. I run it most of the year with only 1 back seat in it. The rest are out and live under the stairs 😆

Bikes - With the above setup you can fit two 27.5 bikes in upside down with just front wheels off and seatpost/dropper slammed. Take out the third seat and you could probably get 4 in...

For your mileage don't get the diesel unless its only long trips. I'm sure you've heard of DPF filters.

Although its a great car, I'm still hankering for more space and will be getting a van next time round. As you said yourself, its a tool to serve a purpose and a small van would much more versatile, for me anyway!

My Ma loves the new Minis.
She decided to buy new probably ten years ago now.

No MOT for three years, Free servicing for the first five (Maybe?) years.
and she goes back to the same dealer and asks for the same person every few years.

"Give me a new one, pay me top dollar for my current one part ex ,and give me a free coffee with the mini logo in the chocolate spinkles"

She has had one or two with issues (i guess any car would), but she takes them back to the dealer and its sorted under warranty.

I think the trick with buying new, is not to keep them too long. PX them at a time where the dealer can shift them easily, and by the time youve taken into the account not having to look after an older car, the finances work out ok. You just need the capital for a new one in the first place, and the inclination to look after it and move it on fairly promptly?

That or buy it new, and run it till it blows up?

Bought a 3yr old one a month ago. 1.2 petrol for 10k a good bike carrier you can fit a complete fs 650b bike in both wheels on stood upright in the back.

Skoda dealer near me sells the demo cars after three months for 20/25% off list price. They've only been driven by the salesmen and a few punters so are good value but tbh with a well chosen car you could go up to 20 or 30k on the clock and still be confident of 10 years trouble free ownership.

I would go for something on a 13 or 14 plate with a solid history and low miles.

I looked very closely at getting a Yeti about 9 months ago.

I'd decided to go cold turkey on performance cars (last one was a supercharged Golf R32) as they weren't really hitting the spot for me or my family.

Obviously, a Yeti was about as cold turkey as I was going to get! The market for something spacious, practical and compact (~4.3m) is really quite limited - and I liked the Yeti a lot. I especially liked the look of the SE-L spec, complete with lots of mod cons and luxuries for really quite reasonable money - without the bling wheels and mirror caps of the L&K model.

Unfortunately, my wife overruled it on the grounds that it looked too much like a 4x4.

Budget wasn't really an issue, so I ended-up ordering the only other car to make the shortlist: a Golf SV in top petrol spec with DSG and £5k of options. Six months after it was delivered, I really couldn't be more pleased. It doesn't have the Yeti's removable rear seats, but they do slide back / forth, have a 40:20:40 split and there's a dual-level boot - all of which has proven very useful in family and biking use.

If you do like what a Yeti has to offer, but would also benefit / like the more modern platform, engine range and niceties like radar cruise control; then do be sure to look at the Golf SV, too.

Equally, I suspect I'd have been very happy with a nice Yeti and a saving. 🙂

There are some very, very cheap leasing deals on new Yetis just now.

Leasing is not for everyone, so check it works for you, but the cost of the best deals are less than £3.5k over 2 years. E.g. £870 deposit followed by 23 monthly payments of £96. Based on 8k miles per year.

See here (lots of other providers available at the moment): [url= http://www.mad-sheep.co.uk/personal-lease-cars/skoda/yeti-estate/yeti-estate-12-tsi-110-monte-carlo-5dr-dsg-83664855 ]Mad Sheep Yeti deal[/url]

It's hard to see how you could beat that in terms of depreciation, whether you buy nearly new or even older.

The deals are on Monte Carlo spec with the 1.2 petrol TSi. DSG (auto) included. The spec is decent and better than SE (includes xenon lights for example).

The basis of a lease is that you never own the car, you rent it. After the lease is up, they come and collect it and you both walk away.

After an initial bubble payment, you pay a fixed amount each month. This includes road tax, but not insurance or servicing.

As it's a new car, you get the full benefit of warranty and breakdown cover.

Over two years, you'll probably need just one service (it's on a variable schedule), so budget another £250. Unlikely you'll need tyres.

Realistically then, the cost of a service is all you'll pay in addition to the monthlies. Any other bother will be covered by warranty.

There are limits on mileage under the contract, but you can set the contract up with the miles you anticipate. The cost rises with the annual mileage. Or maybe even falls if you think you'll do less than 8k.

If the mileage is exceeded when the car is returned, an excess fee is applied. This varies, but shouldn't exceed 10ppm. It's 7ppm in the deal above, so £70 per thousand miles excess.

Worth considering if you want a Yeti, and definitely something to consider if you want the reassurance of driving a new car.

thanks for all the ideas everyone...all taken onboard.

gonna have a look for a year old model or ask them about ex demo

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Bought a 3yr old one a month ago. 1.2 petrol for 10k a good bike carrier you can fit a complete fs 650b bike in both wheels on stood upright in the back.

Really?? There's not a chance my wife's small 26" hardtail would stand up on the back of here Yeti. Even less chance of getting my 650 fs in.

I'd say its only really worth getting new if you are taking finance at 0%
As soon as you start putting interest on it gets silly and a nearly new is much more sense. I've a 1.4TSi petrol Yeti, its ace but I wonldnt get new now as they've stopped the 0% deal

Try the Auctions Ton.
Today I bought a 14 plate Seat Leon FR estate with 22k miles for £11.6K. Thats just under 1/2 new price. Plenty of Yetis about.
You need the Dealer auctions that are selling the ex lease cars. These are Serviced and with Genuine milage.
I used Aston Barclay Leeds depot, but they have other sites.

2 or 3 years old giving another 10 years relatively trouble-free motoring? Good luck with that one. By 7-10 years old any car (irrespective of how well maintained) could spring expensive surprises on you.

is a new car a good idea, or look about for something a year or so old with low miles

For my last car I initially thought a year-old one made sense, but when I sat down with the dealer and compared the cost of ownership taking into account things like the value of an extra year's warranty, a year's tyre wear, the 3 year's servicing they were throwing in with a new car and a healthy discount a new one worked out the same price, and on top of that there are intangibles like knowing its history (and of course the ever-so-short-lived new-car smell). So do your sums carefully - YMMV etc.

Good deals on Yetis at the moment because there's a new revision due shortly.

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This is not meant to offend anyone but I wonder when people say they don't care about cars and just see it as a tool to get from A to B. Things that intersect your life, that you spend time in and interact with should be of some interest surely. It's like saying I ride bikes but don't really care what sort as long as it works or I don't care about my house as long as it keeps the weather out and functions acceptably or I don't care about food as long as it sustains me. Life is short shouldn't we try to imbue it with some meaning, passion and style beyond function or should we accept it is all just a meaningless charade.

Boasting that you don't care about cars is lke boasting that you can't understand technology; it's inverted snobbery.

What a strange thought.i certainly don't care about cars it has to do the job I need it for I have an old berlingo for camping and bike duty and the wife has my old diahatsu charade tiny and cheap to run as she works round town. It's actually my old one as her old one was written off. Cars really don't interest me at all. Motorbikes on the other hand 🙂

We got a pair of Yetis on lease SE-L and L&K , the deals were silly compared to buying.

As above there are some even crazier deals at the moment - seen one for £70 a month.

I love the car to drive but it's not a great bike lugger without a couple of issues. The roof rack system is great actually fits in one place rather than something you slide about. But it's too high for the average person to safely put a bike on. Putting them inside isn't much better - you're going to have to dismantle something and then you're into scratch city because of the limited width.

Putting them on top with a step ladder is the best compromise for me, but ride from home most of the time so it's not an issue.

The 1.2 is decent for the size of the car. GFs has a 1.4 and has a good shove too.

It's almost worth leasing a new one for two years then reassessing then as the depreciation on a purchase will be way more.

Skoda deals tend to be better new then second hand: recently there was 0% + 1750 deposit contribution and £500 fuel. It was more expensive to buy 2nd had as the finance was more.

Buy something nice in nice condition at 4 years old - looked after it'll last another 10 years. That way someone else gets to eat the depreciation and you get a nice motor. My merc would have been 45k new, bought for 15k at 4 years and it'll last for plenty more years. Already done 70k in it.

If you are buying with the aim of no worries motoring I'd also consider either Hyundai or Kia (full disclosure - I now work for the former). If you do lots of miles Hyundai has a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty, if you don't drive much Kia has 7 years with a mileage cap. A Hyundai Tucson or Kia Sportage may suit - seats fold rather than remove but plenty of space. I have a Tucson and I genuinely love it - a great family car.

@lapdog
Nope on all counts.
I care about my friends and family making them secure and giving them opportunities, my own health, my well being and the interactions or experiences I have. I take care of my possessions: cars, houses, bikes and such so they function reliably and serve their purpose I suppose that would include getting something of good enough quality but beyond that they have limited appeal.

Thats not always been the case, I've worked in the motor industry 30 years but now cars specifically hold no more attraction than any other appliance. In fact given sufficient money I would find a way never to use one again.

Ton why not a new Berlingo? Some dealers are running 2,000 min PX at the moment too so possible to pay c11k? Not a fan of the Yeti.

I don't quite get why a yeti is seen as a bikers car, you have to bundle seats out and find somewhere for them, and still can't get 2 bikes in without taking wheels off? Get a full size estate and just drop seats and 2 bikes top and tail on a their sides with a big bit of card between them without having to take anything apart.

don't know about the yeti either. estates aren't all that either. get that second bike in without bending over, loading your back in an unfriendly way, and well, there's a certain demographic here....

Good deals on Yetis at the moment because there's a new revision due shortly.

Not everyone likes estates and a full sized estate is more of a handful in a multi-story car park than a Yeti sized vehicle. As I've posted many times our old 2000 Rav4 had a great van like interior with rear seats out and drove much mire nicely than a van. Yeti looks like an updated version.

I am quite surprised a 1.2 goes ok, we had a 1.3 Yaris and the wife's Micra is 1.6. I would have thought that was far too weedy ?

Its a 1.2 with a little turbo bolted to it. Its not going to win any races but shifts along nicely even with 5 adults sat in it. The citroen berlingo has a better load area for bike hauling. But the yeti can still take 3 people and 3 bikes with a little creative packing. Taking the seats out is easy but they do have some weight to them. Id be interested to see how well a skoda roomster takes bikes in the back as another alternative.

New Yeti won't be out til spring 2018.

1.2 is fine. We have one in our Octavia and it is plenty brisk enough for what is quite a big car. It has a turbo to give it some real clout across a range of revs. Check out reviews for any VW cars with the 1.2 and you'll only find positive things.

That said, whilst it's fine from new, I wouldn't want to be thinking about servicing after 100k miles. I imagine there are some big bills.

Can't offer you any advice on the Yeti but knowing where you live I wouldn't go to DM Keith, shockingly bad dealer. Have a look on Briskoda for their feedback.
I would never buy new as you take the biggest depreciation hit. 2-3 year old is my sweet spot so you can have any work resolved under warranty whilst benefitting from other people taking the price drop of the depreciation.

If I was reallyplanning to keep a car for 10+ years then I'd rather have it from new I think. At least you know it won't have been thrashed by its first owner.

I like the look of Skoda Yeti but a larger engine say 1.6 lire petrol would be very good but if they come with turbo then I guess that is fine too.

Buy whatever makes you happy.

I couldn't justify spending 15-20k on an everyday car, in fact 5k makes me wince. I could splurge 40k on an Ariel Nomad though, now that is money well spent.

If Skoda is doing a deal you can get 0% finance VW finance means free servicing for 3yrs with breakdown cover it works out a better deal than buying nearly new with your own finance.

Along with the RR, hilux and Volvo XC90 to a degree the ayeti duffer's from the Jeremy Clarkson seal of approval on his TG show. Overpriced, over rated and attracts sheep. Post-warranty period how do Yetis fair?

Like all cars the yeti is a colection of compromises which ones suit best is entirely down to the person choosing. If the opinion of some buffoon on the tv influences that decision for some either way who cares?
It drives well but its no sports car. Its spacious inside but its not a van or huge estate. Its got a small foot pront for a 4x4 alike but its no super mini.

I would never buy new as you take the biggest depreciation hit. 2-3 year old is my sweet spot so you can have any work resolved under warranty whilst benefitting from other people taking the price drop of the depreciation.

This!
I can't understand why anyone would spend [i]their own money[/i] on a new car that'll lose a large chunk of it's value as soon as it leaves the forecourt.
It ain't going to stay pretty for long...