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So having my morning toast (2 slices one butter the other jam or honey) I was thinking. Should I be buttering my toast before I put the honey or jam on. Or just go with the one spread?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:11 am
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Butter.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:19 am
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There is no not.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:21 am
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That you even thought about it is enough.
Delete your account.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:23 am
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Butter first, then peanut butter (spread about 10mm thick) white bread Obvz.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:25 am
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Absolutely. Margarine or low fat spreads are as deadly as diesel cars. Rats don't even recognise them as food and wont eat them, so if it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for me.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:27 am
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This is a troll right?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:29 am
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My wife does this - she claims that butter is superfluous when you are going to apply jam to toast anyway. I also noticed recently that she only applies butter to one slice of bread when making a sandwich and she has also poisoned my children's mind with the same practices so they now think that I'm the strange one. I suspect that citing this in divorce proceedings will automatically give me custody of the children.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 7:38 am
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i feel like ive potentially been missing out. Will try it tomorrow.

Ive only recently (last couple of years) put butter on my toast for beans on toast!


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:26 am
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I only do butter/margarine on toast, more than anything to combat the dryness of the heated bread. Sandwiches, I don't bother, basically the tub is ~99% MrsNOTG's.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:37 am
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'Spreadable' butter here. What a tart I am..


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:39 am
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Yes, butter it. And make sure you get right to the edges.


 
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I am going to presume you are young but even so, how the hell are you even alive?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:41 am
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Not if subsequently applying another spread.

Hot buttered toast is, however, a delight.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:43 am
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Not if subsequently applying another spread.

so no butter on your honey on toast?!!!!!


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:45 am
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Not if subsequently applying another spread.

Hot buttered toast is, however, a delight.


These sort comments are making me see all other posts by the authors in a very different light.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 8:46 am
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[quote=wobbliscott ]Absolutely. Margarine or low fat spreads are as deadly as diesel cars.

Ah the good ole deadly margarine myth - one atom away from plastic (in the same way that hyrodgen peroxide is one atom away from water)

[quote=wobbliscott ]Rats don't even recognise them as food and wont eat them, so if it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for me.

Rats will eat rotting meat and human faeces though so... 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:00 am
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Always butter my toast, but never spread jam on a whole slice, if I have jam it's just the odd bite where I will spread jam to the bread before I bite it.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:01 am
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Not if subsequently applying another spread.

so no butter on your honey on toast?!!!!!

Correct.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:03 am
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Always butter my toast, but never spread jam on a whole slice, if I have jam it's just the odd bite where I will spread jam to the bread before I bite it.

thats just strange....


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:17 am
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So is more than three dots in an ellipsis... 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:20 am
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If you are going for pedantry points, three dots isn't an ellipsis either, this is …


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:28 am
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where I will spread jam to the bread before I bite it.

This is just weird, i mean how many knives do you get through? You do use a clean knife every time yes?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:34 am
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If you are going for pedantry points, three dots isn't an ellipsis either, this is …

Depends if you're talking Victorian American English, or British English. 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:54 am
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Yes, butter it. And make sure you get right to the edges.

This ^^ it's the law.
Ah the good ole deadly margarine myth - one atom away from plastic (in the same way that hyrodgen peroxide is one atom away from water)

It might as well be plastic, for all the flavour it lacks.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:55 am
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Full butter coverage, while toast is both hot and still rigid, is a pre-requirement of being on this forum.
Please resign with immediate effect.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:57 am
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http://www.snopes.com/food/warnings/butter.asp


 
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Honey straight on to toast make the toast go weirdly spiky feeling. Horrible.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:06 am
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Honey straight on to toast make the toast go weirdly spiky feeling. Horrible.

what toast are you using. doesnt on mine


 
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Well whatever bread I happen to have. Generally some kind of wholemeal thing. Of course this isn't an experiment I repeat as I like butter, but when forced to experiment due to a lack of butter that was my experience. Maybe I have a more sensitive mouth?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:16 am
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maybe different honey? mines the runny stuff.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:31 am
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'Spreadable' butter here. What a tart I am

All butter is spreadable.

Unless you keep it in the fridge, which is akin to keeping consumable liquids in the freezer, like some sort of sadomasochistic pervert.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:50 am
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tbh it does become an issue in winter. On soft bread.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:52 am
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WHAT? How can this even be a question?


 
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'Spreadable' butter here. What a tart I am

All butter is spreadable.

Unless you keep it in the fridge, which is akin to keeping consumable liquids in the freezer, like some sort of sadomasochistic pervert.

Don't you just use it in slices anyway like a normal person? Much easier to tessellate for full coverage that way.


 
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wobbliscott » Rats don't even recognise them as food and wont eat them, so if it's not good enough for them, it's not good enough for me.

Rats will eat rotting meat and human faeces though so...

They'll only eat the feaces of a butter eater though...


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:03 am
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butter, peanut butter, strawberry jam and maybe even a little slice of brie for extravagance


 
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Right, whilst we're talking about butter.

I LOVE butter. And I believe it's actually quite good for you, as opposed to other spreads, marg etc.

BUT

I don't buy actual butter because when I come to use it it's either a clarified goo or it's as hard as a house-brick. So I buy the spreadable versions that you can keep in the fridge - Anchor, Lurpak etc.

Am I being a deluded fool in believing these are still as good as real butter. How do they achieve this state of temperature related consistency? Is it by adding a bit of harmless olive oil to the mix, or a load of dangerous chemicals/industrial by-products?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:05 am
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Ingredients

Butter (64%) (milk)

Rapeseed oil

Water

Lactic culture (milk)

Salt

There you go.
Over one third not butter.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:11 am
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I can't believe it's not [all] butter!

because when I come to use it it's either a clarified goo

Turn the heating down & put a jumper on


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:13 am
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Really it should be called "Buttery Spread" not "Spreadable Butter".


 
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Meh,

Nowt wrong with a bit of Rapeseed Oil and Lactic Culture (whatever that is)

I shall continue plastering my food with the stuff.

Anyone else butter cake? I get some right odd looks doing this, but wtf... it's cake - buttered!


 
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What sort of cake?

Fruit cake good, Victoria sponge bad.


 
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Butter is solid at room temperature. Spreads are made from vegetable oils which are liquid at room temperature. To make a liquid be a stable solid at a temperature it wants to be a liquid, you need to do some pretty heavy manipulation of its molecular structure, which begs the question, what do you end up with and what effect does it have on your body.

Whatever you eat just eat natural stuff that is as close to its natural state as it can be.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:23 am
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To make a liquid be a stable solid at a temperature it wants to be a liquid, you need to do some pretty heavy manipulation of its molecular structure
Or, you know, mix it with a solid.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:25 am
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Or, you know, mix it with a solid.

What? ....a solid like Butter?

That's just crazy talk. 😉


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:27 am
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Exactly.

Most margarine is pretty much milk solids (i.e. butter) mixed with some form of vegetable oil, water and salt.

The idea that it is some kind of evil industrial plastic is complete nonsense spread by the kind of people who say that they don't eat chemicals. 🙄


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:34 am
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I'd always just assumed it was vegan in honesty.

I do find it's not very nice usually too, but the same could be said of unsalted butter.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:38 am
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To make a liquid be a stable solid at a temperature it wants to be a liquid, you need to do some pretty heavy manipulation of its molecular structure

By the way... isn't milk a liquid at room temperature...?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:40 am
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Exactly.

Most margarine is pretty much milk solids (i.e. butter) mixed with some form of vegetable oil, water and salt.

Ingredients:

Vegetable Oils in varying proportions (59%) (Rapeseed, Palm, Sunflower), Water, Buttermilk (4%), Salt (1.5%), Emulsifiers (Mono- and Diglycerides of Fatty Acids, Sunflower Lecithin), Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Acid (Citric Acid), Flavourings, Vitamin A and D, Colour (Carotenes)

Never trust a vegan kids.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:44 am
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I do find it's not very nice usually too, but the same could be said of unsalted butter.

I love unsalted butter, I don't buy any other kind. In particular German and Austrian alpine butter hits the spot, but Waitrose will have to do.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 11:59 am
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I was just going down the route of 'butter everything with butter not some fake butter substitute' when I remembered that I do NOT apply butter before peanut butter, just having the PB in the raw(*). Am I forever cast out from acceptable society?

(*) but sometimes I spread a little Marmite on before the PB. That's made it worse hasn't it.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 12:07 pm
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Depends. Is it crunchy or smooth peanut butter?
And do you add jam on top of the peanut butter as God intended?


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 12:27 pm
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Butter of course. 🙄


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 12:29 pm
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Crunchy of course, I'm not a total heathen. And my god (if I had one) would not dictate gustatory preferences


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 12:30 pm
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To make a liquid be a stable solid at a temperature it wants to be a liquid, you need to do some pretty heavy manipulation of its molecular structure,

Such as "mixing it together." You can make your own spreadable butter from butter and oil in a food mixer.

which begs the question, what do you end up with and what effect does it have on your body.

It does. And the answer is that you end up with a butter with oil mixed in and it has the same effect on your body as butter and oil do.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 1:26 pm
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You can make your own spreadable butter from butter [s]and oil in a food mixer[/s] kept in a room temperature butter dish.

T'is easy. 🙂


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 1:51 pm
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Whatever you eat just eat natural stuff that is as close to its natural state as it can be.

Right, so you only eat raw fruit and vegetables, then.
Or else it's raw and still warm and bleeding.
The idea that it is some kind of evil industrial plastic is complete nonsense spread by the kind of people who say that they don't eat chemicals.

It just tastes like it does.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:09 pm
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Bregante should definitely get custody of the kids.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 9:20 pm
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Might print a copy of this thread out for my Higher Chemistry class to give them a laugh when we learn about lipid structure.


 
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[s]Might print a copy of this thread out for my Higher Chemistry class to give them a laugh when we learn about lipid structure[/s]. Although I'm not willing to be specific..... I'm much cleverer than everyone else 🙄 .

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I'm much cleverer than everyone else

Correct.


 
Posted : 03/08/2017 10:13 pm
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Correct.

Top answer. 😆


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 2:42 am
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Butter on first regardless, and I use anchor spreadable which is one of the nicest butter things I've come across.

BUT...always let the toast cool down a bit before spreading so some of the butter doesn't melt, I love eating those creamy blobs.


 
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Butter cheese milk dairy products in general create man boobs dangerous stuff.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 5:58 am
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I love eating those creamy blobs.
😯


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 6:00 am
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Honey [s]straight on to toast make the toast go weirdly spiky feeling. [/s]Horrible.

Honey = Bee Shit.

Butter everything unless you are making a "Brown Sauce Butty"*.

*Not a euphemism.


 
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Lactic Culture

Isn't this Lactic Culture?

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Posted : 04/08/2017 6:12 am
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Butter = flavour.

Marg = poor substitute with bad adverts from the 80s.

Spreads = not even got the balls to be 'as good as' marg.

Is there even a debate?

Pet hate: sandwich bar - "Do you want butter on it?" "Yes." Pulls out a cash n' carry Stork SB.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 6:32 am
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Such as "mixing it together." You can make your own spreadable butter from butter and oil in a food mixer.

You could do that, but that's not what the manufacturers do by and large. You'd probably need way too much butter, which is only just solid itself, compared with the veg oil to make it stable making it pointless so a bit of heavy industrial processing is required, which is what the problem is.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 6:45 am
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That's not what the problem is.

Butter on first regardless, and I use anchor spreadable which is one of the nicest butter things I've come across.

If that's what you're doing I'd recommend unsalted butter.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 7:17 am
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Pet hate: sandwich bar - "Do you want butter on it?" "Yes." Pulls out a cash n' carry Stork SB.

Reminds me of a holiday job I had doing sandwiches at the Spa Hall in Brid.
Customer "You put too much butter on the sandwiches, my husband was nearly sick".
Me "It's marg".


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 7:22 am
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No butter. You may as well spread it on the inside of your arteries. Sorry. Gave it up in middle age. Of course one does fall off the wagon occasionally with malt loaf.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 8:40 am
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a bit of heavy industrial processing is required, which is what the problem is.

Whereas butter is handmade by a comely young lady using a traditional wooden churn? 🙄


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 8:57 am
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No butter. You may as well spread it on the inside of your arteries

Where it acts as a highly effective lubricant.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 9:50 am
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Whereas butter is handmade by a comely young lady using a traditional wooden churn?

This was demonstrated at the eurovision song contest by Poland in 2014,as an accompaniment to their song "we are slavic". I heartily recommend reviewing the video any time you want to see how butter is made.


 
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Until I met Mrs North (and her family), I never realised that people didn't always butter toast before putting jam on it.

Unfortunately our daughter spends far too much time with her maternal grandparents, so her young mindis already polluted....


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 12:56 pm
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Butter on first regardless, and I use anchor spreadable which is one of the nicest butter things I've come across.

Ingredients:

Anchor Butter (54%) (Milk), Rapeseed Oil (33%), Water, Salt (1.1%), Colour: Beta Carotene.

You sound like you like butter, but look! You're being cheated of almost half your buttery goodness. 😯

Buy a butter dish.
Have full flavour spreadable butter.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 1:15 pm
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I'm surely not the only one old enough to remember life BF (Before Fridges)? That golden pool in the bottom of the butter dish, or said dish in a tub of cold water along with the milk.


 
Posted : 04/08/2017 1:31 pm
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Butter is nature's thermostat.
If your butter is too hard, turn the heating up a bit.
If your butter is too soft, turn it down.

God bless butter. 🙂


 
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