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Without wishing to get bumped to 'that thread' (which I've really not paid attention to, and it's a bit late to start now) should I get any of the diversive Brexit 50p's in change, what's the most inventive way to deal with them?
Maybe save them up until someone start a rejoin the EU campaign and send them there?
Donate to a local NHS charity in lieu of the £350m a week they won't be getting?
Answers on a postcard to B Johnson, 10 Downing Street, London.
As I said in the last thread, I'll donate to the homeless I encounter.
I thought only old people carried cash these days anyway.
I'll be saving mine and investing them for my daughter, who's future I fear for.
I pay cash when I don't want it on my bank statement.
I ride through parliament square twice a day.
I'm keeping hold of them to throw at boris or rees mogg.
For all their relevance we could use them to prop up the slope on mattoutandabouts shed
For all their relevance we could use them to prop up the slope on mattoutandabouts shed
I like the idea. It'd be nice to see something positive come from Brexit.
I pay cash when I don’t want it on my bank statement
👍 yeah dont coke & hookers Ltd appearing on statement
Good point. I shall save mine for my kids.
Give it to the kids to stick on your grave. Inspired truth or amusing irony.
Just spend ‘em. They’re just coins, and ugly ones at that. Pass ‘em on. Why make a fuss?
I shall save mine for my kids.
I don’t think Boris wants his kids showing up on his bank statement either
I think we shall see many getting "modified".
This used to happen a lot in centuries gone by in protest at the government or policies of the day.
The Brexit coin is ripe for this as the message on it is completely at odds with what Brexit is actually about.
I’ll bury them for Tony Robinson’s equivalent to find in a couple of centuries time. Probably be this guy....
If I get one I'll trade it on the currency exchange for one of these...
Will be sticking stickers with 12 stars on them on the reverse, before putting any back in to circulation.
Can we get them this week? I imagine they'll make better projectiles than eggs and flour at the "celebrations" :rolleyes: this weekend.
“Donate to a local NHS charity in lieu of the £350m a week they won’t be getting?“
The NHS budget is increasing £34b over the life of this parliament - which translates to £20.5 “real terms” increase and £394m a week extra.
£394m a week extra
I know we should avoid the game of “inflate the number, get people to challenge it, bringing attention to the idea”, by that works out at £79m a week, doesn’t it? And how much of that is an increase above what was already planned? Less than £20m by my reckoning. Now, how much have costs for the NHS gone up just because of the post Brexit vote exchange rate? How much will it go up post Brexit beyond what it would have if we weren’t leaving? The idea that the NHS is benefiting financially because of Brexit is just smoke and mirrors, as well all know.
Hmmm it apears my posting skills are even worse than my crude paint skillz.
Best suggestion I've seen so far is donate them to a refugee charity.
The £394m PW is only by 2024
Before then it's less than £350m PW (ramps up every year)
As usual with Boris Johnson promises it's worth checking the small print
And hard Brexit inflation could strip that all out !
Anyway, I shall be defacing any I get , then probably sticking in local charity collection by the station
Poopscoop
Subscriber
I think we shall see many getting “modified”.
Maybe in your household; but I am very confident that the vast majority of people will be unaware of what is actually on the coin ... and look/think/use it as just a 50p coin.
Some people here - especially the Loony-Thread regulars need to take a step back and give some thought about their irrational thoughts on Brexit, and also how thought disordered they identify themselves with comments such as having tattoos in defiance of Brexit or putting FaceBook hashtags on their status ... its irrational and the response of mentally unwell or cognitively impaired people.
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To answer the question of uses for the 50p coins though. Mars bar or packet of crisps I imagine Id spend mine on.
its irrational and the response of mentally unwell or cognitively impaired people
You mean people who disagree with you should be ashamed and hide it from the world, not publicly proclaim their views? To do otherwise is a sign of mental illness in your view? Do you extend this to all political thought?
Will be sticking stickers with 12 stars on them on the reverse, before putting any back in to circulation.
Now THAT I like. Are you making your own stickers?
Mooman and houns, take it to the other thread.
kelvin
Subscriber
You mean people who disagree with you should be ashamed and hide it from the world, not publicly proclaim their views? To do otherwise is a sign of mental illness in your view? Do you extend this to all political thought?
No - not at all. If a person disagrees with me then thats ok; everybody is coming from different directions to make their decisions.
When people get fixated and state they are going to do irrational things because of Brexit, such as getting a tattoo ... then that raises concerns for that persons MH
Are all inkings irrational? Or just political ones? If I got myself a little RAF roundel, would that be irrational, or would the fact that it could more simply be ascribed British significance, not European, make it not irrational? Where’s the line where you won’t damn my actions as those born of mental illness?
Anyway...
Thank **** for contactless.
Can't wait to see some of the rabid anti brexiteers actually get an anti brexit tattoo..please post pics on here as I need a laugh
Seriously though, there are some slightly irrational folks on here. I'm massively against brexit, it's a terrible idea. But it's just a 50p ffs. For all those anti monarchists out there, do you refuse to spend any notes with the queens head on it?
More likely however, for all their bluster they'll spend it just like any other 50p....
We’ll all notice our first Brexit 50p… and dispassionately pass on all subsequent ones… and that goes for Brexit cheerleaders as well as people wary of the whole Brexit process ahead of us. It is just a coin. The whole thing is pointless. As are any attempts to make something of it, from all sides. After the initial “ooo… look… a new one” just pass the coins on and ignore what’s on them.
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A Brexit tattoo - hope you don't split your sides laughing mooman & tpbiker 😉
Edit to clarify - just showing that examplesoof passionate people and what many would considerf extreme behaviour can be found on both sides. This place has generally been more left/remain, other places are way more right /leave. Go to some of those and I reckon you'll find people planning brexit parties for Friday night and cheering on every move BoJo Javid and co make. That's the essence of freedom of speech and democracy and while I wouldn't do it myself I will defend the right of anyone to get a brexit or leave tattoo, post their own beliefs on Facebook and campaign for us to rejoin or become the 51st state. Shutting that debate down forces it into the margins where it becomes an echo chamber and anything can appear normal. Keeping debate open allows those wilder views to be seen and challenged, hopefully working towards a concensus rather than polarisation.
I'm actually booked in to go to the Royal Mint on the 31st and mint my own!
Before anyone calls me out I'm massively against Brexit happening but I'm going there through work and I have a feeling those 50p's are going to be collectible as a sign of a country's collective stupidity. I'm sorely tempted to take along a penny and a single Black Jack sweet (just to annoy the racists who are guaranteed to be there) and point out what it used to cost and what it will cost in the near-future thanks to their stupidity. I will then add that 50p to the box that also has a few of the dateless 20p's in it.
Any others I find in my change I will donate all of that change to charity, at least something good will come out of it.
The NHS budget is increasing £34b over the life of this parliament – which translates to £20.5 “real terms” increase and £394m a week extra.
And where’s it going, eh? ****ing outsource companies no doubt, not where it’s needed.
kelvin
Subscriber
Are all inkings irrational? Or just political ones? If I got myself a little RAF roundel, would that be irrational, or would the fact that it could more simply be ascribed British significance, not European, make it not irrational? Where’s the line where you won’t damn my actions as those born of mental illness?
Sounds a great idea. Dont forget to post a pic for all of us to see.
thepurist
Shutting that debate down forces it into the margins where it becomes an echo chamber and anything can appear normal
I agree. Unfortunately the Loony Thread shut down debate a long time ago; and as such it became the echo chamber of irrational and nonsensical Remainers. Where silly threats of having a tattoo in defiance of Brexit ... or putting a pro-EU status on their Facebook profile gives certain types some sort of validation.
Can you imagine someone in work voicing such things? they would get ridiculed as some odd-bod nut job!
You say that mooman yet repeatedly fail to bother answering any of the tough questions about Brexit
Well what fantastic thing will we be able to do after Brexit day then that we can’t currently do.
Other than spend our newly reminted 50p’s and dream of blue passports.
Is it really going to say ‘friendship to all nations’on it or is that a piss take ?
If I get any, I'm going to staple two of them to lyingblohards eyelids.
Any others I find in my change I will donate all of that change to charity, at least something good will come out of it.
Who knows the govt might make it a rule that transactions must have a Brexit stamp on it then what are you going to do? 🤣
Well, as far as I can tell from this thread, the best thing to do with a Brexit 50p is to diss them and make a gammon Brexiteers head explode
It has been suggested that brexit will take us back to the seventies so I’m hoping to get a pack of three johnnies with mine
kimbers
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You say that mooman yet repeatedly fail to bother answering any of the tough questions about Brexit
As previously said; we are all individuals and we all come from different directions when making decisions. I will not know all the things which will have influenced you to have arrived at a particular decision - just as you will not know how I came to my decision.
The Loony Thread provides ample proof of how debate has been closed down with personal insults; there is no point trying to debate or attempt trying to explain the rational for voting differently to the rabid remainers; you can guarantee it will be met by collective insults.
So much so that it is now just the echo chamber of irrational thoughts and opinions.
I very occasionally look at the Loony Thread. Its a guaranteed source of amusement ... the Rambo-esque keyboard warrior comment of "I’ve got my #rejoin message on Facebook locked and loaded" being a particular STW-Classic!!
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and the tattoo of course ..
Well, as far as I can tell from this thread, the best thing to do with a Brexit 50p is to diss them and make a gammon Brexiteers head explode.
The gammons seem quite hushed, chuckling quietly in the corner.
Personally I was thinking of gluing one to the bottom of my shoe. That way I can leave 10,000 little reminders a day for the remoaners to happen upon.
To answer the question of uses for the 50p coins though. Mars bar or packet of crisps I imagine Id spend mine on.
Ha ha ha! Hope you’ve got a ****ing time machine on hand. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
The Loony Thread provides ample proof of how debate has been closed down with personal insults;
Ah, irony.
Ha ha ha! Hope you’ve got a **** time machine on hand. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
Well with JRM as the minister for the 18th century, we're going way back pre decimalisation. Be getting change from a thrupenny bit.
. Where do you live where a mars bar is still 50p, 1997?
You'll only need 3 Brexit 50p's to get yourself 4.
Unfortunately the Loony Thread shut down debate a long time ago; and as such it became the echo chamber of irrational and nonsensical Remainers.
It really didn't. Brexies are repeatedly asked to spell out the advantages of Brexit as they see them. A couple have gamely tried and had them debunked or proven to be wrong in about 30 seconds. The rest have either clammed up or got aggressive. Same as in other corners of the internet and real life.
Another chance, mooman, for you to wow us with the positives as you see them. Exact opposite of shutting down debate, fella. Opening up the floor to you....
You can always take it back to the 'sensible thread' too. Happy to debate any time.
^ what he said.
I used to feel a bit sorry for the Brexit lot, but now it looks like it's going to happen I am just worried.
Yet to hear any positives...come on mooman. The floor is yours.
You’ll only need 3 Brexit 50p’s to get yourself 4.
Post Brexit you'll need 4 of them 😜
I used to feel a bit sorry for the Brexit lot, but now it looks like it’s going to happen I am just worried.
Tbf they've got their Brexit 50p coin now so they can finally point to a tangible benefit !
I'm going to collect them and attach them to a suit and cor blimey hat, then I can be the Pearly King of racists and ****s.
dannyh
Member
Another chance, mooman, for you to wow us with the positives as you see them. Exact opposite of shutting down debate, fella. Opening up the floor to you….
As previously said - providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults; there is close to 2000 pages of evidence on the Loony Thread to evidence that.
Or maybe its because of your statement on the aforementioned Thread warning us “I’ve got my #rejoin message on Facebook locked and loaded" ...
ps.
actually I dont eat chocolate bars, so no idea how much Mars bars cost nowadays.
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actually I dont eat chocolate bars, so no idea how much Mars bars cost nowadays.
So why would you buy one then? 🤔
@mooman >
providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults
OK. With my moderator boots on, I'll make you a deal.
If you do actually provide a post with an explanation for your decision or to answer the other questions posed here, rather than just popping up to hurl insults yourself in every post, I promise you that I will moderate any response post that you report as being personally insulting. I will give you a personal guarantee that you will not get "the predictable insults" so long as I'm made aware of them.
I genuinely want to hear what you've got to say and would hate to think that you feel like you're being censored by proxy. That's not what this forum is about.
@Cougar, just close the thread please. As the OP I just hoped that it would be a mild mickey taking diversion, but it's gone all, you know, "Brexity" 😞
Brexies are repeatedly asked to spell out the advantages of Brexit as they see them.
It was never anyone's ambition to make things better by voting for Brexit. People enjoy bursting balloons, and kicking over sandcastles - they haven't made them better.
just close the thread please.
I think it's heading that way. Though I'd like to give mooman his right to reply first, I'd hate for him to think he was being censored. I'll most likely kill it in the morning.
I just hoped that it would be a mild mickey taking diversion, but it’s gone all, you know, “Brexity”
Yeah, had some entertaining potential but now sadly just belongs in the existing Brexit thread
Strange old world, the online one.
Mooman is making comments about those on the Brexit thread and their lack of real discussion, "echo bubble" etc. Yet he posted on said thread only a day or two ago.
About a tattoo...
Stange old world.
In short, mooman actively posts in the thread for "loons" and when he does it's nothing to do with Brexit. Fair enough but don't make yourself out to be some sort of rational Brexit messiah trying to educate us mere "loons" please.
There is no mirth or anger in the next statement though. Just pleasant rationality.
I think before you accuse others of mental health problems based on their political views, or strength they hold them, you need to step back from the discussion and pause.
We live in more enlightened times now mooman. As someone that has suffered from depression for over thirty years I can assure you your comments are not welcome. They are also completely irrelevant to my views on Brexit and Brexit itself.
Brexit it totally irrational. Even a "loon" like me can see that.
As you were.
As previously said – providing a rational why I came to my decision would only result in the Loony Thread regulars throwing the predictable insults; there is close to 2000 pages of evidence on the Loony Thread to evidence that.
So you can't, then.
No surprise there.
Might as well close this thread and keep it all for the sensible thread.
I reckon I could get about a dozen of those up Farage's cock.
Far who ?
I think he’ll be desperate for them now he’s out of a job.
I'm disappointed.
Why are we still bothering with all that decimal crap?
50p isn't half of the Great British Pound (tm) - we should have a commemorative 10 bob note.
Judging by how bent the politicians are, that should be a commemorative 9 bob note
I've no idea why people are still "demanding" that mooman explain the benefits of brexit. He's previously given insights into why working class people might have voted for brexit and none of them are based on clever highly researched economic arguments. His comments on this thread purely relate to remainers "reaction" to everything brexit related.
He's not alone in thinking spme of those reactions aren't completely healthy, something I as a complete layman tend to agree with.
Ref. What to do with brexit 50p coins ? It's currency you spend it.
I’ve no idea why people are still “demanding” that mooman explain the benefits of brexit.
Because he "complains about people shutting down the debate", then won't "engage in the debate" when the opportunity is offered. It's not rocket surgery.
I'm not overly fussed about the coins existing TBH, it is a big national event so why not. If I do get one I'll probably keep it as a momento for the kids. It'll be a handy prop when I have to explain Brexit to them when they're older. It's sad for them, given they'll lose rights that we had and benefitted from (their mum's one of those nasty immigrant types, over here stealing jobs etc). Many European countries do not allow dual nationality so it's not an insignificant problem for childrenn of European migrants.
There were celebrations and a commemorative coin when we joined the EEC in 1973. The losers in that referendum were not considered.
As a Remainer, much as I dislike it, I think the winners should be allowed their day. Afterwards, it's up to the winners to deliver the benefits they promised. I don't believe they will but I would be happy to be proved wrong.
These threads always migrate towards the same thing - demanding I give the benefits of Brexit - and it is something I have clarified already on this thread ... and countless threads before; what benefits I see, will no doubt be different to other people because each of us lead different lives and have different factors likely to impact it.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument.
I agree with closing this thread. Its just fuelling and perpetuating certain peoples irrational beliefs, and exacerbating their already fragile MH.
Mooman - one polite request. Please stop conflating passionately held views with mental illness. Just because you find these views baffling or amusing doesn't mean that anyone holding them is unwell. People get passionate about all sorts of things - they get into fights because one group of 11 men were better at kicking a ball than another group of 11 men, some even get tattoos about a group of 11 men that they feel passionate about, they post angry stuff on Facebook when some company or other keeps using plastic in their packaging or they glue themselves to pavements in London because they care more about the climate than you do.
They do all sorts of things because they feel very strongly about a subject, they are willing to let everyone know their views and take action about them. That doesn't make them mentally unwell, just different to you.
perpetuating certain peoples irrational beliefs
So if the belief is pro-EU then it is irrational? and only rational if it's pro-Brexshit?
I don’t believe they will but I would be happy to be proved wrong.
Fortunately, we will be proven right. That is not irrational. It's just a matter of time. 01/02 is the first day of campaign #rejoin. That is not irrational either. That is a belief based on facts and evidence.
IBT Loctite?
Permanent marker.
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument
I do find it bordering on the hypocritical that you'll happily accuse remainers of shutting down the debate and hurling insults whilst at the same time shutting down the debate and hurling insults. Isn't there a saying about becoming what you hate?
Was thinking something like this
https://blog.britishmuseum.org/defacing-coins-like-a-suffragette/
set of letter punches is <£10 on ebay
(dont worry mooman, my mental health can handle it!)
@Tomd, many European countries didn't give dual nationality because there is no need for it.
I am hoping that my kids will be able to have French and British nationalities.
Some countries have a specific policy against dual nationality and its not because there's no need for it. It's a bit of hangover from the Soviet occupuation, they didn't want to allow people to fudge it to be Russian as well when they became independent. It was set up so you had to choose. With us or against as sort of thing.
I just hope with the large community in the UK there will be enough kids to make it worth relaxing the law in the long run.
I am hoping that my kids will be able to have French and British nationalities.
There's absolutely no doubt about their right to French nationality, chris2lou, as I understand your situation.
https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F3068
And no problem with dual nationality for French citizens (the authorities just ignore your other nationality)
There's no problem with the British side on double nationality if they've got British nationality already:
https://www.gov.uk/dual-citizenship
I wondered what would happen when junior applied for his first French passport, he/we just filled in the forms and it came through, he was obviously in the system from birth (acte de naissance et livret de famille) and it required no further proof. So if you haven't got one already then apply for a livret de famille.
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/features/six-fun-things-to-do-with-your-brexit-50p-20200127192892
I wont waste my time, and certainly dont see the benefit, giving my own rational when it is only being demanded here to fuel some rabid remainers argument
Ah the ol’’your view is stupid to the point of me thinking (and telling you that) you are mentally ill, but I’m not telling you what my view is’
Trolls be Trollin’