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Appen I don't want a giant bottle or to spend the whole evening drinking any kind of beer let alone the same beer?
You would if it was good beer 😉
How long does it take to drink a pint in your neck of the woods? Bit much for you? Half a lager top perhaps
Yes, cos I'm not a proper beer drinking MAN like you.
is 660mm not enough for you wrecker ? easy enough to buy brewdog in those around here if you so wish .... i prefer the 330ml bottles as it saves me pouring the damn thing into a glass when it already comes in its own drinking vessel. 660s are just a pain.
OR if you so wish you can also buy it in a can
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Yes, cos I'm not a proper beer drinking MAN like you.
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Fanbois are so fun.
I do like Punk IPA. In fact I fancy a pint tonight, best buy a couple of bottles 😀
What you need is TinPot Brewery in Bridge of Allan. Is also MTB friendly
[url= http://bridgeofallan.co.uk/brewery/ ]TinPot Brewery[/url]
Looks bigger than the Bath ales set up (which is actually in Bristol and by no means small)
technically it's in Warmley, South Gloucestershire, though it has a Bristol postcode. 😉
Yes, it'll have Bristol in it's address though (as a large amount of south gloucs address' do).
A lot of us in south gloucs don't believe in it, we're still in bristol (as we always were before someone decided we weren't) 😉
People will still sell real ale in "proper" bottles, that isn't going away!
No they won't.
CAMRA pedantry means that bottled beer isn't 'real ale'. They won't even consider cask kept under an aspirator despite it being better beer than just cask!
I like IPA in small bottles, drinking a pint in the evening the aromas gone by the end, a couple of bottles keeps it fresh.
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoons
SIBA - people who actually like beer
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoonsSIBA - people who actually like beer
Completely different things, and incomparable. The first is a club for "purist" olde english bitter drinkers, the second is an organisation for professionals (who generally sell beer in proper sized bottles 😉 )
CAMRA - old fuddies drinking stale beer in wetherspoons
Nothing worse than inverse snobbery.....besides CAMRA folk would drink good beer wherever it's sold but they certainly wouldn't drink STALE beer.....
they certainly wouldn't drink STALE beer.....
They do though. They don't allow the casks to be filled with CO2, I'm not talking about force carbonation but just a blanket of CO2 to keep the oxygen away from the beer.
CAMRA real ale will oxidize and go stale pretty quickly.
To be honest I've yet to find a bottled ale that tastes anywhere near as good as a well kept ale from a proper keg in the pub.
Bottled lager seems to travel and keep much better. With real ale from a bottle (or even worse from a can), then I've always been left feeling a little disappointed.
Therefore the rules in our house are:
Beer from the fridge at home = bottled German or continental lager.
Beer at the pub = nice pint of real ale (provided it's a descent pub).
that simply isn't true [url= http://www.camra.org.uk/real-ale-in-a-bottle ]http://www.camra.org.uk/real-ale-in-a-bottle[/url]CAMRA pedantry means that bottled beer isn't 'real ale'.
I'd agree with this though. However the skill of keeping/dispensing ale properly seems to be vanishing swiftly so I often prefer a bottle from an "unknown" pub!To be honest I've yet to find a bottled ale that tastes anywhere as near as good as a well kept ale from a proper keg in the pub
Watched the programme as I had seen all the others in the series, wouldn't have wanted to work there, but then again I don't drink at all.
This may be a daft question but what does IPA stand for?
India Pale Ale
They were brewed specifically to stand up to the long journey to India. I have heard said that they used to stuff it full of hops as they kept the beer free of contamination but that might be apocryphal. Old style pale ales were frequently a weaker, less hopped 'session beer' than the higher strength highly hopped stuff that gets sold now.
It's not wrong, just different. Embrace the change.
No no.. It is wrong
There's a complex algorithm when selecting beer which takes into account strength, locality, flavour, colour and value..
I would quite like to see pence per unit info in the supermarket ( I may or may not be an alcoholic) paying more for less is a deft marketing strategy, but annoying for real ale drinkers (see what I did there?)
CAMRA do like craft beers too. Cwtch, from tiny rebel won best beer
http://www.camra.org.uk/news/-/asset_publisher/1dUgQCmQMoVC/content/champion-beer-of-brita-1
Lovely stuff it is.
that simply isn't true http://www.camra.org.uk/real-ale-in-a-bottle
1) ive never seen that on a bottle
2) it still rules out anything bottled on a bottling line as they all use CO2.
3) conditioning alters the flavour of beer in good and bad ways, and results in a less stable product. Im quite happy to drink good beer in a bottle and ignore camra's obsession with the intricacies of how it was bottled.
I'd rather a BJCP style definition of ales than CAMRA. Even if BJCP has its own foibles like subcategorising into black ipa and belgian ipa, neither have anything to do with Belgium or IPA!
Don't start an argument on the origin of IPA, im sticking with the Americans that 'pale ale' described anything short of porter and caramalts are a perfectly valid ingredient. But that modern IPA is nothing like the historical version which was more like a weak barley wine because it spent 6 months in a cask. It was also like a lot of historical beers, probably a bit sour.
I love Cornish Pilsner me but I do not know who the brewer is. 😮
I bought it in the pub so not bottled.
Sharp's the only Cornish Pilsner brewer?
1) ive never seen that on a bottle
Worthington White Shield has it, never seen it on anything else.
I like IPA in small bottles, drinking a pint in the evening the aromas gone by the end, a couple of bottles keeps it fresh.
Pay the same price for a man sized bottle but chuck half of it away if you're a bit slow.
This can afford to be in a 330ml bottle.. just a tiny bit over a quid each for a flippin lovely craft beer
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Is it just me or is this getting a bit People's Front of Judea?
Is your mum getting a bit People's Front of Judea?
Just got a punk IPA on the go now. Lovely. Winced at the £5.90/l though when doom bar (a perfectly decent ale) was £3.90/l.
2) it still rules out anything bottled on a bottling line as they all use CO2.
No they dont . sweeping generalisation and lack of knowledge. Unless you know more than me, and I have made about 2million pints of beer , then feel free to educate me further . I am still learning about brewing.
Brewdog in 'no such thing as bad publicity ' TV program . Makes a change from brewing 20% abv beers to get column inches by annoying the Portman group and , latterly, CAMRA with their refusal to enter anything into the GBBF
And can we dump the JD Weatherspoon selling short dated 'stale' beer falacy right now. Simply not true. Your local country freehouse with 8 handpumps selling 'Old Bobs Crotch Rot ' will be selling stale beer as Edwin and Dot who go there for lunch wont be drinking 8 pints in 8 hours like most of the JDW inhabitants . Edwin and Dot will have a half each , and thats it.JDW have very strict controls on the BB dates of deliveries and run the cleanest and most organised cellars in the country . And yes . I have seen alot of cellars.
Fanbois are so fun.
Fanboi? Someone's got his wires a bit crossed. I'm the one saying drink what you like, not what is in the correct sized bottle, or over the correct number of hours, or made in the correct sized factory or whatever other criteria the Bores use to decide what is Proper Beer.
Is it just me or is this getting a bit People's Front of Judea?
'xactly.
I love these threads.
On one side those being critical of what they see as style over substance marketing.
On the other side those who like the product and resent the implication that they've merely been suckered by clever marketing.
Meat and veg for STW.
Wetherspoon's beer just doesn't taste right to me, been disappointed too many times. If I have to go in there now I'll have a cider
Also, St Austell's Proper Job knocks Brewdog into a cocked hat
On one side those being critical of what they see as style over substance marketing.
On the other side those who like the product and resent the implication that they've merely been suckered by clever marketing.
And on the 3rd side, those that actually know what they're talking about.....
Unless you know more than me, and I have made about 2million pints of beer
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Also, St Austell's Proper Job knocks Brewdog into a cocked hat
Which one? And for the shocker at not knowing a British small brewery fron the other side of the world, we get brew dog on tap about once a month and have a selection of their cans and bottles available all year. On top of that I've been back to the UK a fair bit, Loweswater gold is a good beer but just one in a particular style. Good for some days and not others.
The dead pony is perfect after a long hot day at work.
I went to a brew dog bar where I was last over, really pleased to see glass size by style and content. Not everything should be in a pint.
Your local country freehouse with 8 handpumps selling 'Old Bobs Crotch Rot ' will be selling stale beer as Edwin and Dot who go there for lunch wont be drinking 8 pints in 8 hours like most of the JDW inhabitants .
This is a very good point, unless a pub has extraordinary footfall, it is unlikely to be able to sustain a lot of pumps - an example of less is more.
Cockwomble... or psychopath..?
I can't decide.
Mike, Punk IPA and Proper Job are comparable styles
So out of a selection of 20+ beers you've picked one theatre you think isn't as good as another one and that's a verdict on the entire place. Punk iPa is one of their stock beers plenty of others to try...
Also, St Austell's Proper Job knocks Brewdog into a cocked hat
Thanks for the info. I'll look out for it next time I'm in Sainsbury.
Not seen Proper Job in Sainsburys although our local Tesco have it.
Proper Job is nice but I also like Punk IPA equally as much, in fact I like beer.
If you're looking at the St Austell brewery my favourite is their Clouded Yellow Wheat beer.
Mike, I picked their flagship beer
Flagship or one of the early ones. I'm more partial to a 5am or a dead pony these days. The single hop range is really interesting and they probably have something for all tastes. But hey you made your choice.
It's a great time to enjoy beer with people being bold enough to try lots of things and for the bars, pubs and shops stocking them.
Definitely flagship
Having watched the show I have to say it wasn't exactly good advertising for Brewdog - the boss came over as a total asshole.
And I now have a bottle of Proper Job awaiting my attention 🙂
[url= https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/brewdog-boss-says-appearance-on-bbc-show-was-a-bit-of-a-disaster1/ ]https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/brewdog-boss-says-appearance-on-bbc-show-was-a-bit-of-a-disaster1/[/url]
That's the first sensible thing he's said
Being completely uncompromising when it comes to recruiting is great for a business. But bad for TV.
— James Watt (@BrewDogJames) March 8, 2016
That makes perfect sense to me.
Oh sod it... Psychopath it is then.
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Well, Waitrose have a range of St Austell beers, so I consumed a bottle of Proper Job, and enjoyed it, but tbh I didn't think it "knocked anything into a hat", or whatever, and in fact had a rather odd aftertaste.
Which is not to say that other people aren't allowed to like it, drink it in immense quantities etc etc etc.
That makes perfect sense to me.
Yes, he seems to have read the "Steve Jobs Guide To Management" quite a few times.
wonder how many folk on this side of the planet have heard of little creatures
Probably a few more after they were bought by Mitsubishi/Kirin 😉
No St Austell beers in our local Waitrose, but I'll keep an eye out. Passed over brewdog and settled on a couple I haven't tried before from Bristol Beer Factory & Black Sheep.
Cockwomble, I'd say.
Bristol Beer Factory
Fine beers indeed. Their Southville Hop is not to be taken too lightly...speaking from experience. 😆 Can also recommend their Independence but don't see it in bottles on the shelves enough. My local Sainsburys doesn't stock BBF beers. 😡
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Mike, Punk IPA and Proper Job are comparable styles
After reading this I picked up a bottle of Proper Job, never tried it before.
I don't think it's a comparable style to Punk IPA. Punk is way more hoppy, it's very much in the American style.
Also, St Austell's Proper Job knocks Brewdog into a cocked hat
Proper Job is very good but it's a different style of IPA to Punk. It was also slightly more expensive. Not sure how it "knocks Brewdog into a cocked hat"?
Very hop forward beers are not for everyone, they are very marmite, you either love or hate them IMO.
Very hop forward beers are not for everyone, they are very marmite, you either love or hate them IMO.
are you saying there is no right answer?
are you saying there is no right answer?
Obviously! It's a pointless, subjective argument. Perfect for STW!
Resurrection!
Just picked up a bottle of "big job" from st austell, it's a big brother to proper job and is H O P P Y!!!
Cheaper than punk (as is proper job) and nice too!
Wish I'd bought more than the one.
Bristol Beer Factory
Not keen on that stuff, tasteless. Moor beer is nice though.
[url= https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/fp/news/local/brewdog-announce-whisky-plans-6000-people-flock-aberdeen-agm/ ]Now there will be Brewdog Vodka, whisky and Gin[/url]
Moor beer
It's ok. Very over-rated (mostly by themselves of course). Gimme BBF stuff any day.
It's ok. Very over-rated (mostly by themselves of course)
They are our brew dog then? BBF is like supermarket own brand stuff to me, drinkable but unremarkable.
Had a Punk IPA the other day.
Pleasant but nothing special, IMO.
The Lidl "Green Gecko" I had afterwards was more interesting.
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Which supermarket own brand stuff is this then? Genuinely interested if any supermarkets are doing really decent stuff. I know Sainsburys and M&S have some nice ales which are all brewed by decent brewers (and they tell you which stuff is is brewed by who on the label). eg Tap Room brewery in America do an APA and an AIPA, both of which are good value at £1.25 for the 350ml bottle. And they have a range of "standard" ales and a stout in their "taste the difference" range...all of which are decent. M&S's own label offerings are excellent, many of which are brewed by Adnams and St. Peter's - a few excellent single hop pales to be found there. Are these the ones? Not familiar with Tesco's or Asda's ranges though. Maybe it's those you're talking about?
M&S do some very drinkable ale. Co-op are the other I'd be quite happy to buy. They do freeminers and a few other which are as good as most branded stuff. Sainsbury taste the difference is OK but perhaps a bit pricey for what it is. The big supermarkets sell so much good ale at such reasonable prices that it seems crazy to buy the house stuff.
This popped up in their facebook comments earlier allong with a few similar comments (then promptly got deleted).
http://themissingdrink.com/investing-in-brewdog/
Puts their valuations into some sort of context
-Same as Stone, 1/3 the size
-Shares wouldn't be worth what they're offering even if they sold the company for the sort of price Camden did.
Yeah, I agree, the M&S stuff is very good - although a bit pricey unless there's a 6 for 4 offer. The one near me in Avon Meads does the Arbor Ales Why Kick a Moo Cow and Beech Blonde - both flipping lovely if you haven't tried them. Come in an actual 568ml pint bottle too! 😯 😀
The Sainsbury's TTD range is often at £1.50 a bottle in mine - although it appears, instead of 3 for £5, they've started doing various different ones at £1.60 a bottle these days which isn't bad value for money. Most other stuff is down to £1.80/bottle these days, but a few of them (Purity UBU mostly) still at £2/bottle.
I haven't tried why kick a moo cow (weirdly 😉 ), thanks I'll keep an eye out.
I'm seeing lots of branded decent ale at around £1.80-£1.90, at 30p more than the TTD stuff it's a no brainer for me. I only buy 3 or 4 generally.
I am very keen on the new over-hopped stuff (I love the term alco-hops) which is great because there is loads of it abouyt at the moment. Does this make me a hipp-ster? My tatts are proper old school though and I don't work in a coffee shop so probably not.
I remember working at the Smiles brewery as a young apprentice engineer, there were hops all over the floor out the back. The smell was fantastic.