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Bought a cheap bread maker a few years ago and it gets used occasionally but I have the feeling I NEED a better bread maker to make better bread.
Any bread maker recommendations please
Panasonic
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Also use Allinson Premium Very Strong Bread Flour
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is the cheapie a Lidl one? I was waiting to get one, they no good?
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Cheap bread maker you say
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At particular Panasonic or any one?
Panasonic - depends if you want to add bits/nuts/stuff or not.
As above. Panasonic. Whatever has a nut / seed dispenser.
Does anybody make bread by hand anymore?
Just curious, can't just be me.
Got a Panasonic a few months back based on good reviews. MrsB bought me a top of the range one for ~£150 and it is excellent. Not bought a loaf of bread since.
Was meaning to make my own bread but never got round to it, so this has been helpful. Use strong flour though.
piemonster we do! my OH has just popped a wholemeal out, light, fluffy and gorgeous
I bought a £150 Panasonic one a couple of years ago and it makes great bread. Gets used every weekend and the bread tastes and smells amazing.
Don't worry Piemonster I have just taken up the sport of hand making bread had a bit of a disaster last loaf forgot the butter 🙁 Do you use the method of have a roasting tin of water in the bottom of the oven when baking?
Panasonic here too. Used every day, and makes excellent bread and dough.
We make bread by hand quite a bit it's a doddle really. Never used water in the oven though? Nothing nicer than fresh baked bread.
Piemonster, harrison and donk + loads!
I regularly make sodabread, its a piece of [s]cake[/s] scone
Free yourself from the machine!
oven
Current wife wants one and I can get a Kenwood with a big discount. Anyone use one of them ?
Our Panasonic belonged to my Mum and Dad - given to us when they bought another, I guess it's about 15 years old and still going strong (the tin is a little bit battle scarred but WTF), if it dies we will be looking for Panasonic again.
FTR, I too bough the (fully Monty) Panasonic model 3-4 yrs ago and never had one good load out of it. Must've tried 20 times. Yet a couple of friends had the same one before us and everything turns out pretty much perfect every time.
Our's always seemed to undercook in the middle. Probably a duff model but never bothered chasing a return.
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Warburtons
Warburtons
Possibly the saltiest white bread on the market, renowned in commercial circles for the stuff.
Thrustyjust, my Kenwood's not brilliant but it's tenacious- it was falling apart after a year or so but it's still clinging to life 3 years later, gets used every day or two. TBH it's built like they expect you to use it twice a year.
If I was buying another one tomorrow I'd be wanting something fully programmable, there's never a setting that's just right (then again I like my bread well done)
piemonster - Member
Does anybody make bread by hand anymore?Just curious, can't just be me.
Stick yer machines where the sun doesn´t shine.I get paid to do this, bread by hand with a good oven is as good as it gets. Just use strong flour and bakers yeast.
Agreed. Or just a rye starter . . .
Panasonic here which makes a lighter loaf than my mum and dad's Kenwood.
Add a dash or three of vinegar to the bread mix for better results.
Just use you bloody hands.
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and a food mixer with a good dough hook and plenty of oomph
This thread should be archived for posterity next to the woodburner/ coffee / Audi ones!
Panasonic all the way I have 2 of em ( both are working brilliantly Long story ) the important thing is use a good strong flower
For us Waitrose flower is the best but we cannot make a XL loaf because it rises too much and hit's the lid on baking. Lidl flower is also very good and about £1 cheaper to
Kenwood Chef, a silicone bread 'tin' and an oven.
+100000000 pauloxo
For the betterest bread, use a kenwood little chef
djglover - Member
This thread should be archived for posterity next to the woodburner/ coffee / Audi ones!
Key difference with the hand made approach is it costs nowt.
Ish, once you start buying peels, baking domes, bannetons, etc, ok get your point.
Stick yer machines where the sun doesn´t shine.I get paid to do this, bread by hand with a good oven is as good as it gets. Just use strong flour and bakers yeast.
Sunnrider, as much as Tescoids take a bashing on this forum. They do supply me with free baking yeast.
Where do you work, had a couple of vague opportunities last year. Just didn't look like it was going to provide enough work. There are big commercial operations, but that's of no appeal. If I'm going to get up that early I want to take some pride in what I'm doing.
We have a Panasonic one now after the seal on the tin of the previous one, a Russell Hobbs, failed after about two years of every-other-day use. The Panasonic one is a lot more expensive than the old one (it was a pressie!) and has disadvantages and advantages.
- the bread comes straight off the paddle every time; the other one you always had to dig out the paddle which made a mess.
- a "standard" loaf takes four hours instead of three, so needs to be started earlier on an evening if you don't want to be waiting up until 1am if you want to make sandwiches the night before rather than in the morning
- it's taller, so doesn't fit under our kitchen cupboards with the lid open, which the other one did.
- the bread is probably a bit more consistent, and doesn't leave unmixed flour in the corner of the tub like the other one did sometimes, but as for the overall quality of the bread I can't tell the difference.
Cheapish Kenwood - chuck everything in and let it mix and rise.
Then transfer to bread tin in oven for proper finish.
I've got two bread makers:
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I'm on the hand made side:
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One of this weeks loaves.
Used to make bread by hand but never have time now.
I used to have a Russell Hobbs thing (I think) but it was pretty useless. While I prefer to buy British goods I succumbed to the hype around Panasonic and it has been brilliant. I can't believe that we've had it 6+ years and it's made great bread incredibly reliably all that time.
Just bought a Panasonic 2501 bread maker with the auto raisin thingy whatsit.
It was reduced to £110 in Currys from £140. Wasn't going to bother with the auto raisin / nut thing but as it was now only £10 more than the version without the auto bit I guess it was a no brainer really.
got a "rapid" on the go at the moment. hope it comes out nicer than the old Schnieder bread maker.
Blooming eck! Just popped a loaf out " rapid setting" so it would be ready or dinner.
THE best loaf I've ever made. Soft, tasty, not rubbery like my old machine used to pop put.
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Gob smacked at the quality.
Nice one all those who recommended the Panasonic.
The rapid setting is ok but the normal setting is loads better. Looks like you've done a decent job at slicing it but I'm rubbish so use a dangerously sharp knife and a loaf slicing guide.
See if you can get a free recipe book
Also
http://theideaskitchen.co.uk/bakery/
Only had time for the rapid setting if I wanted bread with dinner so wasn't expecting much really but still well impressed.
Used an electric knife for slicing.
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By Hand - how exactly do you spray the crust in a bread maker?
Lol at the photos, for the proper artisan look they need to be in a basket lined with unbleached cotton.
Take the dough out of the machine if you need to shape it and spray it otherwise wait for the beeps and tip it out, daily fresh bread doesn't have to be pretentious.
Bread makers are a convenient way of reproducing mass produced pap. If that's what you like just buy it, it is identical to the stuff in the supermarket, it just happens to be warm and make your house smell nice!
Making good bread properly is not that hard, just takes practice. Some nice stuff above!
Bread makers are a convenient way of reproducing mass produced pap. If that's what you like just buy it, it is identical to the stuff in the supermarket, it just happens to be warm and make your house smell nice!
Well, not [i]really[/i]. I mean, you control what ingredients you put in it.
Happy with my Panasonic, too. Not tried anything else, though.
Bread makers are a convenient way of reproducing mass produced pap. If that's what you like just buy it, it is identical to the stuff in the supermarket,
I have to disagree wi you on that point, mass market prepackaged bread is most likely made using the Chorleywood method, and i use the term "bread" in it's most loose descriptive fashion, anything in a supermarket that comes out of a plastic bag is not bread, no matter how they try and tart it up as it's full of preservatives/salt/sugar and fats. if you make it yourself in a breadmaker or by hand then it will be vastly superior to the plastic fantastic stuff you buy in the shops.
I buy bread from our local baker, i only use a couple of slices a day for toast in the morning and i occasionally make the odd loaf or two by hand when i've got the time. I do make a lot of ciabiatta n' olive rolls and nan,chapatis,pizza dough by hand as anything else just tastes wrong.
Another supporter for Panasonic. I have had a few bread machines, all failed and could not be repaired (can't get spares) until I got a Panasonic. Much more reliable and if it does fail you can get spares. And makes very good bread - nearly as good as hand made but with much less hassle so can fit in with a busy life.
Bread makers are a convenient way of reproducing mass produced pap. If that's what you like just buy it, it is identical to the stuff in the supermarket, it just happens to be warm and make your house smell nice!
So what do you [b]not[/b] put in your hand-made bread then? I only put bread, water, yeast, sugar and salt in my machine-made bread.
Why did the baker have smelly fingers?
He kneeded a poo.
Take the dough out of the machine if you need to shape it and spray it otherwise wait for the beeps and tip it out, daily fresh bread doesn't have to be pretentious.
So you care enough to spend a hundred quid on a machine but 10 minutes kneading and 5 minutes shaping is beyond you?
So you care enough to spend a hundred quid on a machine but 10 minutes kneading and 5 minutes shaping is beyond you?
It was £70 and yes I'm far to busy internetting to knead dough and wait for it to prove
I normally do something else whilst the breadmaker is makingbread. Last night I was making a curry and drinking Pilsner.