[Closed] Bread and me. A story of loss..

I loved bread and most of my diet revolves around it.

I'm hoping nothing like this happens to me, I'd have to eat a salad without croutons!

same problem here..

ulcerative colitis was the diagnosis (after much prodding and searching)

I dream about toast.
If a naked lovely lady walked into my bedroom this evening carrying a crumpet, I'd have the crumpet.
I walk past bakeries and inhale.

It's bloody murder.

love bread and it does not disagree

Is just over 10 stone and mocks the idiet

Hmmm... Ulcerative colitis isn't something I considered, but might be a possibility. I did think of IBS, but I don't really know.

Yep, that sums it up...

Have you tried making your own bread? Perhaps your intolerant to the additives and preservatives in shop bought bread (which the gluten free bread would also have)?

Was it Real Bread, or that stuff that comes in bags from the supermarket?

Have you tried making your own sourdough bread and seeing if that has the same effect?

I'd go into mourning if I couldn't eat bread. Does it not make any difference if you cook it. I'm thinking cheese on toast, pate on toast here?

And do you eat a lot of pies, pasties, potato cakes and crisps to compensate? I'm just thinking what I'd do

I'm crikey, and I was a bread addict.

I would eat crumpets, pitta bread, pizza, home made bread, shop bought bread, cheese topped muffins, oven bottom muffins, floury baps, toast, eggy fingers, bruschetta, ciabatta, and any other bread product you can name.

I am bereft.

Condolences. Have you had the ATA antibody test for coeliacs? Crohn's and UC could manifest with high CRP.

I'm a complete bread addict - everything from Soda to malt. Of course they all live in the "carb cupboard". You can always try potato farls.

djaustin - sodas and potato farls, I guess you're from NI? Cant find decent sodas on the mainland!

No, had no tests. I'm a nurse, so hospitals and doctors make me nervous. Just need to forget about bread.

Interesting you've been suffering from bloating. Despite running and riding frequently I'm a bit lardier than I'd like to be, I do eat more than I should but not that much more (in my opinion of course!)

I realise a lot of this is age but I have been wondering for a while if I should try cutting out bread as I eat quite a lot of it, my problem is I don't know what I'd have instead. I bring sandwiches to work and cannot be arsed to make a salad every day, have thought about making a big pasta salad type thing once or twice a week but it's still carbs.... If we don't have dinner of an evening I'll make beans on toast or have a sandwich.

Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy, this made me wonder if that's making me fatter than I should be.

In the first week I got a bit desperate, and made a 'ham sandwich'.

Two slices of ham with coleslaw in the middle; bit messy, but worked a treat.

No, had no tests. I'm a nurse, so hospitals and doctors make me nervous. Just need to forget about bread.

Hee hee. My mums a retired nurse, used to run and ICU. She is [i]The[/i] Worlds Worst Patient. Most of the nurses / medics I know are maniacs for self diagnosis, alternative medicine and hypochondria 🙂

Maybe its not the bread. Maybe its the butter 🙂

Just wondered do you get similar symptoms when you eat pasta or such like, as pasta is made from wheat using plain flour It could be a way of narrowing down what is causing this disorder.

I run an ICU now, and I'm not keen to let anyone tell me I've eaten my last slice of toast.

Pasta seems to be ok, but I've not eaten loads of it.

The foods I can eat seem to be an ever shrinking pool...

I've cut out all non-soluble fibre, and cut back on stuff with wheat in..

I've re-kindled my old love of spuds and oat cakes are erm.. an arranged marriage.. something that I'm sure I will grow to love in time..

And do you eat a lot of pies, pasties, potato cakes and crisps to compensate? I'm just thinking what I'd do

Hmmm, oatcakes are featuring in my current attempts to eat enough to stay alive, not really the same as a nice slice of toast...

Crikey,

The antibody test is available on line for about £20 (or possibly from boots or other pharmacies?).

I'm surprised that gluten free bread caused you the same problem as it bears little resemblance to real bread. Did you cut out everything with wheat in it (so pita bread, bicuits, etc)...

But if one of your own patients was trying to unscientifically self diagnose what would you say (appart from the fact that his sedation had obviously worn off)...

[i]if one of your own patients was trying to unscientifically self diagnose what would you say [/i]

... I'd tell him not to be silly.. Point taken.

Changing to gluten-free stuff with little effect seems to be a problem though, and maybe I should start on the possibly-something-else-is-wrong path.

Crikey - Get some lovely fresh cooked ham, put on an proper staffordshire oatcake, cover in grated extra mature chedder, bit of Worcester sauce in there, roll it all up and whack it in the microwave for 30 seconds

Food of the gods, that is 😀

Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, [b]some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy[/b], this made me wonder if that's making me fatter than I should be.

It's called the Chorleywood process, and is used for mass-market bread because it's cheap and quick. Either make your own or find a good baker. Trouble is, the bread tastes better so you eat more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chorleywood_Bread_Process

Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy

100% true.

I went round all the local bakers when I lived in part of town that had them. The best bread? Tesco.

I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why since it's so rubbish 🙄

Heard an interesting conversation on radio the other week, some French chef saying that British (supermarket) bread is rubbish because it's cooked too quickly and consequently is doughy and stodgy

It's not the cooking too quickly, it's the process by which they get it to prove so quickly. (chorleywood as above)

Proving bread brakes down the gluten such that the body can process it.

I've eaten half a loaf of cheap morrisons white bread today if that helps.

I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why

sugar and flavour enhancers?

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sugar and flavour enhancers?

You tell me.

All very well, but I'm put in mind of the famous Scandinavian joke;

Lady; 'Would you like super sex?'
Man: 'I'll just have the soup thanks...'

I'm off bread, I loved it and now it's gone.

I went round all the local bakers when I lived in part of town that had them. The best bread? Tesco.

I had this really pleasant sensation of taste when I ate it, but I can't imagine why since it's so rubbish.

You'll not be iEating iBread iAnyway, surely?

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Can you not do naan bread Crikey? You could live off kebabs

I'd end up in a korma.

You'll not be iEating iBread iAnyway, surely?

Yeah that was a long time ago when I had local bakers!

I have a similar problem to the OP, suddenly couldn't eat wheat about 18 months ago. GP had me tested and drew a blank...just have to keep trying things to see what works.

A wholemeal and rye sourdough might be low-GI and low-wheat enough to not set off any allergies?

No, but if I asked for my chips on one I'd get battered along with the fish...

I'm off bread, I loved it and now it's gone

Good bread is only 4 things:

Flour
Yeast
Salt
Water

So to my scientific but non-medical mind if it's not flour then it's yeast? Assuming you can drink water and manage a packet of crisps for example?

Could be yeast.

Which is a constituent of beer.

I'm not having a good day.

Gramflour flatbreads are pretty good as a substitute.

Like you I was a bread addict but have not had any for a couple of months. Tricky to start with but once you get used to it it's not so bad. My diarrhoea, bloatedness and skin ailments have all cleared up. Completely. I have also lost weight so i am now at 74kgs.

As I said, gram flour flatbreads are not the real thing but they are a reasonable substitute.

Good luck.

was just speaking to a guy a work today who had the exact same symptoms for years and turns out he was finally diagnosed as a celiac (or however you spell it) exact same symptoms - if i was you i would get tested for it.

I am currently eating Ryvita.

Me.
Unreconstructed, northern, tabs and beer and chips and gravy, give her a seeing to up against the bins round the back of the club. Eating bloody Ryvita.

I'll have a manbag next, and be changing my underpants daily instead of when they get dirty.

Dark days indeed...

I was diagnosed with UC about 6 years ago and had a negative test for coeliac disease as one of the many many tests and probes and picolax related procedures I went through before the docs settled on Ulcerative Colitis, tbh unless I've been on steroids I've had symptoms continuously since then and have been on immuno-suppressants for a little over a year.
I tried the idave diet in January and, as well as losing over a stone and a half, my symptoms have almost completely gone - for the 1st time in years I'm not worrying where the nearest loo is when I'm out. BUT if I have more than a couple of slices of bread on my off day I have to stay within spitting distance of the bog and get horrendous bloating and stomach pain for a couple of days.
I've avoided pasta so far but am planning to have some on my next off day to see if it has the same effect.

edit; gram flour bread is ok, it's not proper soft doughy white bread but it is ok. just ok.

can't stomach ryvita though, and I'm a southern softy.

Cheers for that fella, for all my attempts at humour I am quite concerned that this may turn out to be a long term live with it thing, so I'll be talking to the GP soon.

Meh. Hate being poorly.

If you want some bread recipes or a crumpet recipe just email me and I'll send you mine over tomorrow, have a go at focaccia as its easy to. Make oat biscuits or crisp bread and store it in a big tin.

my names tts and i'm a bread addict.
got to have a butty even if its fresh air the breads the thing, crumpets are the hard stuff ( warbies 6pk on offer at the mo.)
i ve given up before but always go back to it.. i luuurve it

Sorry, I haven't read all the postings.

If you google 'Chorleywood method', it's the way of making bread on an industrial scale. You might do better with 'overnight' bread from a specialty baker, or sourdough, or soda bread. It could be something to do with yeast.

I've lost over 2 stone almost without thinking about it since I stopped eating bread more than once a week.

I feel slightly bloated after eating supermarket or mass produced bread, yet if I eat spelt bread I don't get any off the bloated feeling. Has IBS been ruled out or stress.

[i]Bread and me. A story of [s]loss[/s] [b]release[/b]..[/i]

T,FTFY

D'ya know ?. Theres a bread free world out there.

Think about this.
When was bread [i]invented[/i]....
And, what did people eat... Before bread !.

HTH
🙂

My GF bread doesn't share many ingredients with real bread and those it does are really commonplace, so it's a bit odd that you'd get the same symptoms.

If it's any consolation I almost burst into tears once in the tesco bread aisle, just from all the smells. Bit cruel that they keep the gf stuff right in the middle of the proper tasty stuff

No bread=No life.

Death without toast 👿