[Closed] Bouncers - channel 4

I don't think they are that bad really so long as you stick to the house rules you should be fine.

Sometimes I would just walk around the area just to see people behaving like clowns ... 😆

Do you still feel the same at the end of the show, Pook? Think they came across ok.

Those 2 are some of the better doormen around.
Some that I've worked with in the past have been the most obnoxious people I've ever cared to share space with. A lot are just plain bullies. One of the reasons I stopped doing the job in the end.
In fact, one of my old head doormen was murdered not so long ago due to the fact that he bullied the wrong person one night.

Irrespective of who and what they (the bouncers) are, it's the punters that wind me up. A sad indictment of our culture today. Upsetting when you have kids of your own to raise.

There are bouncers on subway and mcdonalds nowadays. Wtf?!!

The Greggs at the top of the Bigg Market near The Gate in Newcastle has a bouncer. Back in the day I worked the doors in Newcastle for 3.5 years and seeing a bouncer on a bakers was a bit of an eye-opener 😯

I worked the doors in Blackburn for about 6 years in the 90s. Worked with some wonderful, selfless people and also some animals who shouldn't be let anywhere near that kind of responsibility. A bit like some STWers and keyboards... 😛

Those bouncers were sound.

Compare them to the Rockshots bouncers of the 90s 😯

You were in serious trouble if you pissed them off!

Ive just finished reading "Watch my back" by Geoff Tompson.

Bit of a good book really and also an eye opener into the world of a bouncer.

Worth a read

GT is a top bloke.

Would not do door work, ever. Nosireebob.

As a general rule, I avoid anywhere with bouncers on the doors as it seems to be a good indicator as to which pubs / clubs attract the nutters.....

I still miss the mayfair 🙁

I caught five mins of this the other night.

Some old chap had pretty much passed out at a table at closing time so two bouncers had to get him out, they dragged him to the door as he couldn't walk by himself and stood him up outside and sent him on his way... He took 2 steps and hit the deck smashing his eye socket on the floor

Do the Bouncers or the Pub have a duty of care when someone clearly can't walk by themselves?

Just watching this now.

The world of bouncers has changed massively since the 90's, some proper loons on the doors up here around then. Nowadays it just seems to be wannabe cage fighters, definitely not in the same league in terms of attitude and unpredictability. I guess the plod have done a good job getting that sort of person away.

I remember The State in liverpool in the early 90's, the doormen would be battering people every week, robbing people, ended up with a few of them getting shot whilst working one Christmas Eve.

You think those guys are thugs? Seriously? Seemed pretty reasonable blokes trying to cope with a relentless stream of pissed up idiots

I worked behind the bar in the Hacienda during the whole Madchester/gunchester thing. The bouncers were all serious gangsters, proper hard-as-nails career criminals! Into allsorts. And some of them were out-and-out psychopaths. I've seen some proper scary shit. People taking some genuinely shocking beatings dished out for maybe spilling the wrong lunatics drink, then just dumped out by the canal at the back, unconscious and bleeding

From my experience of doing bar work in the 90's most of the bouncers seemed to be part of the local drug gangs and were doing the bouncing side as a way to control the supply in the clubs.
Most I knew seemed OK and not keen to cause too much trouble, resolving most problems quickly without violence, less chance of the police being involved that way.

The bouncers were all serious gangsters, proper hard-as-nails career criminals! Into allsorts.

Bertie Basset has a lot to answer for.

Liquorice. Just say no, kids.

doing the bouncing side as a way to control the supply in the clubs

A familiar story in early 90s Hull too.

This week's are just typical stereotypical licensed thugs.

Did we watch the same show? About the gay pubs?

I thought they were quite restrained in dealing with some awkward little ****ers.

Into all sorts?

I thought it was Quality Street?

some proper loons on the doors up here around then

Are you saying that guy who threatened to shoot the bouncers last night was sane?
He really put the wind up one of the doormen. And you must admit he looked completely pyschotic.

I still miss the mayfair

me too, my mates used to run the drop on a friday night. Happy days!
but, the bouncers there weren't the that pleasant either!

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had a couple of 'mates' who were bouncers on the pier nightclub in Aberystwyth at uni

thy were both a bit unbalanced and consumed a lot of steroids and speed, they just loved to fight- and after rugby tournaments etc they would get really excited about the coming violence, being a bouncer was a job and hobby combined

being a bouncer was a job and hobby combined

A jobby?

my mates used to run the drop on a friday night

I knew those guys - Si and the others. My mum and dad met at the Mayfair!

I mostly worked the Riverside and occasional band-based security at the Mayfair, Trent House, World HQ, Barley Mow and the Poly and the Uni. We kept out of the Bigg Market lunacy until Shindig arrived at the Riv and it all went clubland drug downhill with the dodgy punters.
Newcastle was interesting then - before proper door licensing came in. I was working the night Viv Graham was shot and we all thought that was going to kick everything off but it didn't. I learned a lot about people then and it has served me well to this day. I was lucky to work with a bunch of big bloked who could talk to people and believed that having to lay hands on someone was a failure.

binners - Member

You think those guys are thugs? Seriously? Seemed pretty reasonable blokes trying to cope with a relentless stream of pissed up idiots

I worked behind the bar in the Hacienda during the whole Madchester/gunchester thing. The bouncers were all serious gangsters, proper hard-as-nails career criminals! Into allsorts. And some of them were out-and-out psychopaths. I've seen some proper scary shit. People taking some genuinely shocking beatings dished out for maybe spilling the wrong lunatics drink, then just dumped out by the canal at the back, unconscious and bleeding

I stopped going to the Hac for this very reason.
An amazing, inspirational nightclub became a very dangerous place to frequent.
It was difficult to get in unless you were 'known'.
We'd been going for a while, to various nights, at that point & despite having long hair and the wrong trousers had started to feel at home.
The atmosphere changed completely - the little booths at the back were just taken over by thugs and woe betide anyone who did the slightest thing they could possibly take offence at.

The music ceased to be the thing.

Konspiracy & the Thunderdome were just dodgy from the start - a mate of mine, a dope dealer and major acid casualty from the festival scene started operating at the Thunderdome and very soon had acquired a couple of 'minders', who just fleeced him mercilessly.
There was nothing we could do - that was made very clear to us.

Don't get me wrong, we had some great nights in both places, a proper 'FU' vibe, everyone welcome, but they coincided with heavier drugs becoming more prevalent, as they had on the free festival scene a few years before.

Thus ended the dream.
We all lost.

I gave up on dance clubs and went back to my punk/rock roots - it was safer and the drugs suited my haircut.

The Banshee, a family owned club, employed honest, decent, non steroidal doormen.
Jilly's/Rockworld continued with local motorcycle gang refugees on the door, lead by Sarge, who was a thoroughly nice bloke and treated people with decency and respect.
I'd been going to both on a weekly basis since I was 15 and the only trouble I ever saw in 10-15 years was a bloke having the shit kicked out of him for trying to bite my ear off. 😯

Sorry for the rant - Her indoors is away for weekend and I've just had The Dust Junkys/North - Sound of the Dance Underground on. 😀

We'd been going for a while, to various nights, at that point & despite having long hair and the wrong trousers had started to feel at home.

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These ones?

I lad that I was at uni with worked as a bouncer-he used to sell all the phones that he'd nicked from people in halls. Utter bell end.

Same cut, but the label was at the back.

I lad that I was at uni with worked as a bouncer-he used to sell all the phones that he'd nicked from people in halls. Utter bell end.

I would think that someone knowing what he was doing and not dobbing him in was a bigger bell end, but that's just me and my twisted former bouncer logic.

Haha cheers for that Too Tall....I'm a bigger bell end than a bloke punching people and robbing their phones. Epitome of bouncer mentality that is.

Epitome of bouncer mentality that is.

Apathy is the worst crime. You knew what he was doing and made a decision not to stop him doing it. You are a coward and as bad as he was.

This thread needs bouncers on the door.

Keep out the riff-raff 8)

Apathy is the worst crime.

Quite the philosopher, aren't you.

legalalien - Member

I worked the doors in Blackburn for about 6 years in the 90s.

Did you work with/know Taffy ?

Haha cheers again for that.

Let me just sketch out the scenario for you a little more....I only knew him and of his actions from when he would turn up at an open mic night that we organised (he was in halls with a guy on my course) I wasn't in halls and didn't even know his name, I just heard his boasts and once saw him with a few phones on him. At the time I was 18 and 10 stone.....he was a roided up meat head twice my size and for whatever reason seemed pretty popular at uni. Was it wrong that I didn't dob him in...well maybe, like I said, I knew very little about him (I didn't even know where he worked) and didn't live on campus so had very little dealings with student services etc.

Am I as big a coward as him.....nope I don't think many sane people would agree with that! Interesting that you're coming across all confrontational with no chance of actually coming to harm, like I said before, you appear to epitomize the mentality that I have encountered in countless moronic bouncers and appear pretty cowardly yourself.

Apathy is the worst crime.

Really? I would have thought one of those child rape murder type things would have been the worst.
Just my view, i wouldn't normally bother to post, but then realised what a serious crime that would be.

well said Tom B....... 😆

just my twopenneth, when I was growing up, if you were a bouncer/doorman, you were seen has someone who thought himself to be a hardman.
and all the local lads went out of their way to prove otherwise.

most bouncers did not stay on the doors for long.

Life should mean life for apathetics.

I did 5 years non stop in blackpool working at sanuk and syndicate before its demise. Had a blast and met some "characters" if you acted a dick and a hardman you got put in your place sharpish. If you held your own and had respect you got on. Watching the prigrammes makes me want to re kindle the badge and have a laugh again but too much hassle these days.

Grew up in Ireland with the whole doorman/bouncer, wrong shoes and you´re not getting in mentality.
I thought it was utter bobbins at the time and even more so now.

Having lived the last 10 years in the Basque country where, I can go out til 6am and not meet a bouncer outside every bar,nightclub and coffee shop, I´ve realised they´re not the problem, it´s the lager swilling brain-dead masses. TBH, I´d stick a 400% tax on all alcohol sold after 7pm in UK/Ireland (Lidl included).

I can´t offer any other solution, move over here, just avoid Benidorm and anywhere south of Madrid. We shold be ok for a few years yet.

Tootall, just seen your post about Newcastle. Have a read of this, really shows what a great place newcastle was:
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Me and my mates did the under 18 hip hop thing at the riverside on a Saturday afternoon, bomb the bass...

Apathy is the worst crime

Quite the philosopher, aren't you.

Yup. People walking by or just turning a blind eye is a big part of why society is knackered. People are happy to let others get away with crimes because they can't be bothered doing something for someone else. I notice TomB has given a lot more detail to his story.

I lad that I was at uni with

I wasn't in halls and didn't even know his name

As for ton - you've spent some time discussing violent retribution on here in the past.

😆

The bouncers were all serious gangsters, proper hard-as-nails career criminals! Into allsorts.

Bertie Basset has a lot to answer for.

Liquorice. Just say no, kids.

LOL!!

Some other cracking replies in this thread! Thank you to those who've made me chuckle tonight on this downward spiral of a forum.

Gary_C
Did you work with/know Taffy

Yes - same era 🙂 There were two Taffys around a the time. One worked for Manny's crew and the other for Charlie. I worked all around. Did a couple of stints up the Cav - first when it was Peps and then Utopia. Some of the Friday Peps dance nights were pretty special in the early 90s. Did a little up Manhattan's, Never's and a bunch of pubs around Blackburn and Accy

Here's same roll call of some of the decent, more professional names from then, some of them good friends: Big Paul, Skinny, Chris & Karl Astley, Tugs, Dave Atherton, Sags, Hussain, Sloany, Richard (pink Cadillac & leaky Trans-am), Sally. The trouble usually came from Scouse hen parties, hangers-on from the Wilson's, Gallagher's or the gym lads. Had a couple of run-ins with the gym lot, usually when they'd buggered up their steroid cycle. Most of them were nothing by themselves, but were terrible when Tony Davis and Dave were out because they wanted to show off.

This thread has brought back a lot of memories. Was very close to starting my own security firm at one point before I decided I'd end up dead or worse and went back to college.

TooTall can you clarify what the issue with the two bits of my posts that you've quoted?

Just exactly how tall are you btw?

I worked on the door at TJ's in Newport once 😯 my mates band were playing and I was doing them a favour. Holy crap what a nerve wracking night. Nerve wracking and terrifying.

The Queen of Hearts in Nelson was a slaughter house of a club, the bouncers had such a reputation that loons and psychopaths would travel miles to take them on.

Anyone watching tonight's episode? Seems to be Sunderland is the place to go if you want 50p drinks, one punch knockouts and fat lasses falling over 😀

Tits ooot fa the ladz, like.

'I need a cuddle'
Like, 'aye pet, ya minga'
Never seen this before but being from up the north east, at least I understand the lingo!

Gangs of radge.

...new one on me.

Well worth checking out the twitter feed #bouncers

Naming and shaming aplenty. Thank Christ I was young and stupid before the interweb! 😀

Hopefully they are naming the gutless twonk in the Levis top, who was running round sucker punching people.

It was certainly interesting what's classed as 'fighting' .

To add to what's been said previously, these guys are like Ghandi compared the the head cases that worked the doors in the 90's.

It was gangs of radgies. Plural.

To add to what's been said previously, these guys are like Ghandi compared the the head cases that worked the doors in the 90's.

True, but you do wonder what would happen if the cameras were absent.

I thought I'd tuned into The Viz Channel by mistake for a bit.

😉

chakaping - that's exactly what Mrs Binners said 😀

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