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If the price of the cheap strong stuff is going up, will alckies have to be become more discerning? Maybe trading up from their white cider to maybe a nice Argentine Malbec?
No way, that was a student staple, 3 litres for £3 got two of you ready for a night oot.
So is alcoholism the preserve of the rich? Seems unfair.
Will this push more people towards other substances like smack?
So is alcoholism the preserve of the rich? Seems unfair.
No just the more dignified:)
Good point. E's have been cheaper than a pint for years now
wwaswas - never mix your drinks!
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white lightening, yuck even the chavs don't drink that shit.
This all assumes that people get their alcohol from a supermarket, rather than Dave at his lock up, like the rest of us do!!
Good grief 😯 That Frosty Jack lookes like something you would use to clean the splattered bugs off the front of your car with.
Harry, don't tell everyone, or the garage forecourts will be overrun by the more discerning alcoholics...
I shuddered. We used to drink White Lightning alot at Uni. Drink about out of the bottle and pour in some blackcurrent cordial then go out.
There goes the £9.99 a bottle whiskey special offers that are often on at supermarkets and offies around the country 🙁
eh? £16 cheap?Cheap supermarket whisky at £16.10
special red was the tipple of choice when we hung around on the park as [s]kids[/s] adolescents, WL aka mange was scorned for being too cheap and too nasty
I used to work in a bar in Perth where the pre-football sharpener on a Saturday lunchtime was snakebite and blackcurrant.
1 x bottle Special Brew
1 x bottle White Lightening
1 x splash blackcurrant
One fat idiot with diabetes used to drink them with CC and soda chasers. That was 22yrs ago, reckon he's dead?
good old white lightning.
I still have nightmares about the hangover I suffered after my mate and I decided it would be a good idea to make some snakebite with white lightning and kestrel super strength. it literally burnt a hole right through me.
it also reminds me of good times at uni. i vaguely recall they did a 50% extra free 'millenium party pack' to celebrate y2k. 3 litres of white lightning does not make a party!
I don't care if my bottle of Vodka does cost £22 now, I'm still going to party like it's £19.99
igmc.
WAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYY!!! 😆
Are you, by any chance, here all week?
That frosty Jack loooks like the perfect solution to that oil patch on my driveway.
I don't care if my bottle of Vodka does cost £22 now, I'm still going to party like it's £19.99
/applause
LOLing at wwaswas
Post of the week? Gets my vote 😀
Frosty Jack has never seen an apple in its life.. I'd be surprised if it had even been in a factory that had apples in it at the same time!
Horrible, horrible stuff. Even worse when it comes back out.
😳 You know when you steal a joke off twitter and don't mention the fact when you post it somewhere else and then everyone then seems to think it was original to you? Well, that. 😳
I've decided to 'fess up.
wwaswas - glad I wasn't drinking coffee (or Kestrel Super) when I read that. I'll try the veal if you're here all week!
Easy lube? "Nonsense, this is a far superior drink to meths! The w+*@^%$£ don't drink it because they can't afford it!"
I still have nightmares about the hangover I suffered after my mate and I decided it would be a good idea to make some snakebite with white lightning and kestrel super strength. it literally burnt a hole right through me.
We tried this with Special Brew instead, it seemed fun at the time, but you're right - one hell of a hangover.
Did Heineken not kill of White Lightening last year after they aquired whoever it is that makes it and decided they didn't like it's image?
Wwaswas - awesome
We used to drink diamond white and castaways mixed together in a pint glass 'Blastways' at college aaaaaaaaah the good old days.... now where's my cirrhosis tablets.....?
I still have nightmares about the hangover I suffered after my mate and I decided it would be a good idea to make some snakebite with white lightning and kestrel super strength. it literally burnt a hole right through me.
We did it with frosty jacks and super tennants. Never, ever, ever again.
Supercider like White Lightning always turned me completely psycho...
My ex flat mate did. 😯 I moved out pronto!yuck even the chavs don't drink that shit.
I still have nightmares about the hangover I suffered after my mate and I decided it would be a good idea to make some snakebite with white lightning and kestrel super strength. it literally burnt a hole right through me.
Weaklings, forget the blacks add port instead, Snakebite, SnakeBosh!
The trouble is that its going to affect one of the few growth areas of the British economy, the small brewery.
The UK has seen an explosion in these over the past few years & many of there products range in strength from your standard 4/5% up to Imperial Stouts which can be over 10%!
They come in 330ml bottles and currently are more expensive but only a circa £2 more than say a 3.5% Pale Ale in a 500ml bottle. The Pale Ale could be drunk all night where as its unusual for someone to drink more than 1 Impy Stout in an evening but the cost will be about double.
So, is it really the strength of the product rather than the amount of the product that is the problem?
bigsi - Member
The trouble is that its going to affect one of the few growth areas of the British economy, the small brewery.The UK has seen an explosion in these over the past few years & many of there products range in strength from your standard 4/5% up to Imperial Stouts which can be over 10%!
They come in 330ml bottles and currently are more expensive but only a circa £2 more than say a 3.5% Pale Ale in a 500ml bottle. The Pale Ale could be drunk all night where as its unusual for someone to drink more than 1 Impy Stout in an evening but the cost will be about double.
So, is it really the strength of the product rather than the amount of the product that is the problem?
Real Ales are priced way above the 40p/unit already. Tennents Super 440ml can is 9% and 4 units so that'll cost £1.60/can. How much is a bottle of Imperial Stout now?
When I were a student in Sheffield, I played hockey. It was traditional on away matches to each take a 2l bottle of Blue Ocean (Victoria Wine's own brand drive-cleaning cider) for consumption on the coach back after the match. It was compulsory that the bottle be finished before arriving back to the club pub (the Seven Seas in Broomhill) otherwise terribly sophisticated forfeits involving the removal of clothes, singing of songs and downing of pints ensued.
This was fine when we were playing, say, Durham, which was two hour drive. It was not so great if we played Sheffield Hallam, as their ground was fifteen minutes away...
Ah, happy days, wasn't it, jumpers for goalpost, isn't it, eh..?
Real Ales are priced way above the 40p/unit already. Tennents Super 440ml can is 9% and 4 units so that'll cost £1.60/can. How much is a bottle of Imperial Stout now
330ml @ 10% is less alcohol than 440ml @ 9% so the price [u]could[/u] be lower than £1.60
Matt
Tuition fees and now no more 3l bottles of white lightening. Dave has really got it in for the students hasn't he.
Are you able to put any of this new 'never-never' load they have to take out towards chateauneuf du pape and malt whiskey so that they can still get properly @#%$ed.
Good point. E's have been cheaper than a pint for years now
Not for decent ones.
You can get decent ones? Where? 😆
Pints or Es?
Reduce that deficit, increase uk employment,reduce crime: legalize and tax ecstasy and cannabis!
We had a game at university.
Edward-Cider-hands
It involved 2 3lt bottles of cheep drain cleaner, lots of ductape and occasional nudity when the volume of alcohol exceeded the ability to remove/put back clothing without using hands during toilet breaks.
The (now bad taste) girlie version was Amy-wine-hands.
On a serious note, this will effect expensive drinks too, just as the minimum wage pushed up wages (if you were already earning a fiver working in a kitchen, and now the washing up kid now got that, you got a rise to reflect that).
Lifer - Impy Stout would be circa £4.50 per bottle.
See this is what confuses me in what makes up a unit of alcohol 😕
See this is what confuses me in what makes up a unit of alcohol
1unit = 10ml
So 330ml x 10% = 33ml = 3.3 units = £1.35 (ish)
Lifer - Impy Stout would be circa £4.50 per bottle.See this is what confuses me in what makes up a unit of alcohol
In the UK 10ml of alcohol is one unit. Other countries use grams I think. About 20-30% difference.
Matt
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I played the Star Wars Storm Trooper game with a bottle of Frosty Jack once...
I think I lost about 2 days of my life afterwards...
Oh, and by the way, for those of you who don't know what the Star Wars Storm Trooper game is... It's nasty!
You can get decent ones? Where?
In Manchester Binners, in Manchester.
Hurray!!! If I took any decent E's nowadays, I'd probably have a massive coronary!!!
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chuckles, I remember those at uni. In one.'Blastways'
price per unit might level the playing field for those microbrewers who can't compete on scale, normal boring lager will cost similar to niche stuff so plenty of people will give it a go, but as tinas said stella etc will put their prices up to reflect the change. If government put a minimum 100k price on cars porsche and ferrari wouldn't flog their cars for the same price as a ford focus would they?
'Blastways'
I remember them well from Uni. They could (and frequently were) also be easily turned into 'Fastaways' with the simple addition of a gram of speed
This won't make a blind bit of difference apart from boosting the black market. The people this is aimed at already buy their booze and fags out the back of dodgy dave's van anyway....
Since when could you find a bottle of drinkable red wine for £2.99? Surely a better policy would be to reduce the cost of fine wines, so that at the very least our boozy youth could have a cultured palette?
I'll be brewing my own ales soon... 🙂
so a maximum per unit cost too then?
Barstewards have been ripping me off then 😯
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We used to refer to Snake Bite and Black, as 'Diesel'.
Variations were the "Turbo Diesel' or the 'Turbo Diesel Injection'. (Shots of Vodka and/or Whisky).
The following day, if 'enough' had been drunk, all inevitably gave the drinker what was known as 'The Diesel Grin'. i.e. You looked like The Joker.
Other favourites were:
'Hard Man's Shandy' - Heldenbrau Super and Hooch/Two Dogs.
And pints of 'Moretti' and Value Lemonade. For those of you not familiar with Moretti, it was Morrisons own label Martini. Absolutely vile.
Twas all money well spent......
randomjeremy, that's what I said, makes these sort of things laughable. I don't think Cameron has any idea how most of us get our booze.
Emsz? Are you implying that some of the good folk of the forum may interact occasionally with frightful criminal types?! Someone fetch my parasol! I feel faint
bigsi - Member
Lifer - Impy Stout would be circa £4.50 per bottle.See this is what confuses me in what makes up a unit of alcohol
How have you got that? 11 units, so around 33% stout? Doesn't sound enjoyable at any price!
Blue mountains in Dundee; bottle of K cider and a can of red stripe crucial brew. You could tell the group of lads drinking it as we would all be fighting each other after a couple of them. 😳
Earlier this week I returned home from the shops to find two gentlemen stood in front of my drive, arguing. This presented me with an issue as I wished to enter my drive. I waited a short while before nudging my horn but they were, for the most part, oblivious to the rest of the world.
To avoid any further delays I decided to park on the road and drive in once their dispute had been settled. As I got out of the car the argument changed into a pushing match and with one of the aforementioned gentlemen being much larger than the other, this could only go one way.
Soon there was one small gentleman sprawled across the road, and one larger gentleman stood over him. Another casualty of this incident was a large bottle of White Lightning which as I watched, began emptying it's life blood onto the road.
Things had suddenly turned serious.
Difference forgotten, the two men scrambled back to the bottle, quickly and in unison righted it and carefully found and re-attached the bottle top. The smaller gentleman held the bottle while the larger one ensured the cap was on nice and tight. 4 hands held the now slightly lighter bottle, comforted in it's weight.
"That was your effing fault" shrieked the smaller one.
"Nah it effing wasn't" cried the larger, "you dropped the effing thing"
The fight was back on.
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I've witnessed a similar altercation, possibly even involving the same combatants, outside a pub in Stockport at 9.30 in the morning.
In some ways, I have a sort of sneaking admiration for someone who has the constitution to wade in to a bottle of White and Frightening, or a can of Special Brew. I suspect it may that kind of unswerving commitment that made this country great
emsz - Member
randomjeremy, that's what I said, makes these sort of things laughable. I don't think Cameron has any idea how most of us get our booze.
I think most might be an exageration. If this isn't useful or a step in the right direction, what should he do?
Matt
Lifer you misunderstand me. You asked "how much was Impy Stout now" to which i replied "circa £4.50" which is how much it currently costs. Nothing to do with % etc.
Well I deal with these so called binge drinkers, they're a nuisance for sure. However, most of them are a nuisance to their selves only and make their way home. Then there's those who have a bit of scrap or cat fight. This has always been the case it's not new.
Now there is a trend of drinking into oblivion, the odd one genuinely gets it wrong they get carried away and overdose on the stuff. If it's accidental I have genuine concern for them a foolish mistake. There's those that aim to do it though and get themselves into a horrible mess, at one time their friends took them home to sleep it off. Now though they let them wander off, they either fall over in a heap or bystanders see them and call for our help.
Will this stop them, well probably not they tend to be the ones with expendable income and not just teenagers or young adults, I pick up people in their 40s 50s or even older. They all have the same thing in common though, enough cash to spend on drink they won't care what the price is.
The introduction of minimum will probably reduce the amount who want to go out for a quiet drink and get merrily drunk. It'll cost more to do that and at a time pub trade is falling it's those that'll reduce.
They're tackling it the wrong way, the answer? I'm not sure but fining people for getting into a drunken state needs to be enforced.



