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So I've posted before about my boss/line manager, he's a pain, intimidating and bullying, not constantly but now and then. Our HR were a waste of time. I sometimes think life's too short anyway and just ignore it but sometimes it just gets to me. Who can I go to to say something? Should I speak to his line manager? I'm wondering if that might be a waste of time. I'm a small cog so can't see me being taken much notice of to be honest and if something does get done it'll be hard to work with them again as we are a department of 4 in a tiny office. I'd like to get another job but nothing's come up in 2+ years of looking unless I want to do something completely different. Going to speak to acas tomorrow to see what advice they have and try to speak to my union too.
Union would be a great place to start.
And quietly gather any evidence of his behaviour in case it is ever needed.
The first place to start would be his line manager.
Tread carefully would be my advice
I had a horror of a boss for a few years. I'd been at the company for 15 years and was very senior. I was very well liked and respected across the company. This guy came in as my boss and he had moments of being an absolute monster. I tried to manage it as best I could but i reached breaking point. I went to his boss and laid out my complaints. I also had an informal Chat with HR. After speaking to his boss I was told there was nothing he could do and I just had to get on with the guy.
Fast forward about 8 months and my dick of a boss managed to get me made redundant as his final **** you to me when he got punted into an inferior role.
Tread very carefully unless you're 100% sure you can make something happen by escalating the issue
Have chat wih his line manager. You may not be the first 'victim'
Deploy the Crystal Egg of Peace
Ludwig?
What sort of things is he doing? As others have said record his behaviour in a diary. Do the other two people in the office feel the same way?
He's not liked in the department, we're all hoping he'll leave. One person left about 2 years ago that he had a lot of arguments with. I think the others just keep their head down. I made a complaint to HR a year or more ago and since then he's given me a bad appraisal, nit picked every little thing, threatened my job, complained to HR about little things, said others had complained about me in the department not doing my job properly when they hadn't - I asked them. He's just moaned about something again and copied in HR, which I think is unnecessary and intimidating. I don't think our HR gives a hoot to be honest but why would someone you work with in a small department be like that. He just seems to have a hissy fit every now and then and go on a power trip.
I had a boss like that once, we'd both applied for the role of team leader, she got the position. I never undermined her even though I was still in the same team, we worked well together. Until I went over her head to the MD after she pulled the plug on previously agreed holiday arrangements for the birth of my son (rather than paternity leave, as they only paid the statutory amount) at less than a weeks notice. After that she was highly critical of me, tried to give me a disciplinary (which she had to take back because it was one to one, HA!) and generally critical of my attitude (possibly because I no longer cared).
The solution? Leave.
Just remember it's not you it's him.
Next time he's coming across as bullying or intimidating ask what is really wrong, in a concerned way. Suggest going to have a private chat to talk it over and see if you can get to the bottom of the problem.
Is it likely he is stressed out about something and taking it out on others?
YOur workplace should have a bullying policy. Check and then map his behaviour to the policy and put it in writing to HR and his boss. It will work better if the others at your level join in.
Actually he's accused me of undermining him too, don't know where that came from. He's complained I sit at the pc, then I've asked what he wants me to do and he shrugs his shoulders and says he can't think of anything. There's not a lot for me to do at the moment, so I can sense he'll kick off again soon.
Not sure a private chat somewhere would be good as I'd probably end up punching him 😠
Thanks all, always good to let off a bit of steam and get some advice on here. I think this is the 3rd time I've done this type of thread, it dies down and I tend to just get on with my job forget about it and avoid him. I think out policy was to report it to the line manager, that's him, I'll have a look tomorrow to read it again.
**** his wife and put cocaine in his desk.
If you're going to get fired by a **** boss you might as well make it as entertaining as possible and take as many people with you as you can.
Start a (totally deniable) period of all our war. Absolutely petty shit that makes his life a pain in the arse but is at worst a minor inconvenience to you.
Eventually he’ll just leave and you’ll get his job. Winner.
Depends on the organisation but sometimes total, blind adherence to every rule and reg can reduce your crappy manager to pieces. My last manager was sometimes a bully and just get the job done merchant. Oh the fun I had with him explaining for 30 mins why the 5 minute job couldn’t be done without an overtime night shift. Cancelling work on said night shift due to incorrect paperwork etc. (His fault for not reading my email and listening to me) the fault and maintenance backlog spiralled until he backed off and let me work effectively by planning my own workload. I’ve since left for a much better job where I make a difference without management interference impeding me.
Aha - the "chinese rebellion" Petty and vindictive but fun