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must be the stress of sorting out those new routemasters
Vaz is a right dodgy bast*rd
And Johnson isn't?
he's never had the plot
I don't know about dodgy but definitely more than a little bit pompous. Shame it's unlikely to ever get out on Youtube Christian Bale-style.
Boris' Dad was on the radio this morning - currently protecting albatrosses in Tasmania or something.
And Johnson isn't?
Any dodginess Boris may have pales into insignificance beside the likes of Keith Vaz.
Boris is surely just better at hiding his dodginess...
Actually, apart from employing some dodgy deputies, and generally acting a tw4t, what has Boris actually done? Most of the stuff implemented during his tenure, was organised under Ken, anyway, and Boris is merely committed to seeing those things through. Anything else has been sorted out by the rest of the GLA, with Boris playing only a nominal role, it seems.
Get Ken back; he acted in an independent manner, unlike this puppet.
Most of the stuff implemented during his tenure, was organised under Ken, anyway, and Boris is merely committed to seeing those things through. Anything else has been sorted out by the rest of the GLA, with Boris playing only a nominal role, it seems.
Weird, I'm sure I've seen something like that before.
"Most of the stuff implemented during the early New Labour tenure, was organised under the Tories anyway, and New Labour were merely committed to seeing those things through. Anything else has been sorted out by the Civil Service, with New Labour playing only a nominal role, it seems."
Only ten times? If I were to suffer meeting that corrupt twunt Vaz, I can assure you there'd be more than ten.
Boris starting to loose the plot?!!!!?? The guy is a moron pure ans simple, in fact very simple.
Why is Vaz so corrupt then?
double post
Boris is far from simple, or a moron. He's effing intelligent, like it or not.
Vaz? How's this for starters - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1809146.stm
thats funny rudeboy, i feel that boris has done a lot of work to undo what was put in place by ken.
still you seem to know what you are talking about.
Boris is an idiot, just because he can be funny and has some degrees doesnt mean he's clever, I have 3 degrees and am as thick as shit.
You mean the Keith Vaz who accused the British Army of planting the IRA bomb that blew up Leicester Army Careers Office?
You mean the Keith Vaz who accused the British Army of planting the IRA bomb that blew up Leicester Army Careers Office?
Doesnt mean he's corrupt, just dumb and as we've seen thats no barrier to a career in politcs.
Key part of that link is he was cleared of any wrong doings.
I have no sympathy, if you elect an idiot etc
Crikey rudeboy you always sounded sensible up until now? Ken should have been hanged 20 years ago when we welcomed IRA scum with open arms, and that was before he became mayor and welcomed Islamic jihadists to London with open arms. FFS!!!
Well enough of you must have voted him in to get the post in the first place, I'd have him back in Henley with pleasure if you don't want him in London.
Stupid he is not.
Keith Vaz represents everything thats wrong with Democracy
When he was head of the Select Comittee into 42 day detention, he objected to it, on principle (sic) in the strongest possible terms.
Then he had the following conversation
"Hi Keith, Its Gordon. If you change your mind, I'll give you a nighthood"
"Great! I'll just jettison those principles sharpish then"
I'd like to swear at him for this alone. There are many many more reasons
STARTING to lose the plot???
Like or loathe Boris Johnson - it is clear he is extremely clever - a cut above most politicians who are actually rather thick.
He is certainly charismatic as well - and it was time for a change in London. He is not as much of a neo con as many - having the intelligence to see what a stupid position the neo con one is.
personally? I hope he does well. we need more politicians like him and less like Blears or Cameron with their total lack of ability to think and fear of saying the wrong thing.
Completely agree TJ.
[i]he's never had the plot [/i]
That's unfair. He had it very briefly. October 16, 2004.
I do so hate agreeing with TJ.....
😆
I so rarely agree with TJ that this deserves a coffee...
who hacked TJ's account.
or is he back on medication?
Problem with boris doing well, is that cameron is going to use that at its advantage... And that just CANT be good for UK and probably EU
Why not, Juan? Do explain.
After all, the current government are doing a sterling job, aren't they? Aren't they.....?
I like charismatic politicians - and contrary to popular belief on here I am no party loyalist. I'd rather vote for Johnson than some of the labour party apparatchiks.
What ever happened to charasmatic politicians anyway? Love'em or loathe em they add to interest. Heseltine, Benn ( the elder) Healey, Cook, etc etc. I see Clarke is making a comeback tho
Juan - its OK - there is still time for Camerons lies to be seen for what they are. I just wish there was an alternative to Labour who were not determined to destroy the NHS.
Don't be fooled - elect the tories they will destroy the (english) NHS. fortunately they don't and never will have again any power in Scotland.
I too agree with tj on this.
I must need to go and flagellate or something as I feel like I've violated myself
elect the tories they will destroy the (english) NHS.
Really? Says who?
CFH - says they in their propaganda - if you translate it.
I to agree with TJ at least borris and even ken have conviction and principles
most of our political elite are interested in power for the sake of power and little else
did anyone see newsnight last night?
the guy at the end in the pink jumper who launched a massvie rant against thatcherite and blairite economic policy that has turned our country into a money obsesessed corporate cess pool
it was great to see Theresa May and Tony McNulty shamed into stuttering silence, the guilt on their faces and on some of the other economic advisors there was incredible, especialy after hearing from some of the unemployed workers in the audience
ps
the torries will destroy the NHS tho labours handling of NHS dentistry is fuct too
And, of course, the labour party isn't trying to privatise the NHS, is it?
of course the torries wont say that
but i remeber getting a knee-op in a filthy hospital(i remeber the roaches in the bathroom) under the torries after a year long waiting list, that left me off PE for a year
some things have changed
I started going thru in line by line but gave up.
Basically they want to reorganise to remove democratic accountability ( may not be a bad thing) They want to force patients to make choices about treatment - to pander to the wittering classes when infact it has been proven time and again that people do not want choice - they want the best possible available locally.
They are going to stop the amalgamation of A&E units - this is again populist and against the vast majority of medical opinion. for minor injury it does not matter how long you take to get to A&E - what matters for major injury is the expertise of the staff - which they don't get in small A&E units. This will cost hundreds of lives a year.
They promise to cut budgets after two years
ETC etc
w3e will see but my guess is if the tories get in then we will have a system of very basic care plus top ups for the rich - rather than the comprehensive system we have now.
They are going to force expensive and unreliable private medical firms into the NHS.
[i]And, of course, the labour party isn't trying to privatise the NHS, is it?[/i]
NuLab have done some very damaging things to the NHS - the extra investment (after years of underfunding) was welcome, but some of it was very badly spent. They screwed up GP OOH cover and hospital Consultant contracts, partly because they didn't grasp/believe how hard many of 'em actually worked. They [i]utterly[/i] screwed up medical training with MMC and MTAS - ask any rookie surgeon about getting in their "flying time". They have seen an exodus of experienced and demoralised staff nurses leave for sunnier climates. ****ing PFI has been an outrageously expensive disaster, and was forced through despite [url= http://www.amazon.co.uk/NHS-Plc-Privatisation-Health-Care/dp/1844670112 ]prescient[/url] opposition from just about everybody at the coalface. When the local A+E is struggling to provide a bed for granny, just remember that the Trust is probably locked into paying thru' the nose for a shoddy newbuild with leaking drains for the next thirty years (and mmm, providing lovely income streams for PFI consortia via refinancing deals). They hired management con.sultants and big firm accountancy wonks to help divvy up assets and cherrypick elective work (e.g. ISTCs paid over the odds for a lower volume of less complex work), even as elderly patients with [i]C.Diff[/i] were crated up on understaffed, overstretched wards. They continued the Tory policy of outsourcing cleaning to the lowest bidder. They are happy for anciliary and back-up services to be run into the ground - be it the porters or the path labs. They have overseen a decrease in medical cover at nights and on weekends. They have reduced acute capacity to the point that many hospitals are now running at 100% - so there's no precious slack in the system, which makes a nonsense of infection control. They have done little to address the absurd nurse/patient ratios on general wards (any more than 6 pts per RN = decrease in patient survival, believe it). They are desperate to sell off Primary Care to large corporate interests (e.g. UnitedHealthcare - who are jonesin' for taxpayer-funded contracts). They spouted fatuous nonsense about [pseudo] "choice" in healthcare, when most people just want local, accessible services. They tried to bludgeon in market forces where they just don't work (i.e. stuff like "Payment By Results" - which is ****ing nonsense in, say, major trauma or paediatric intensive care). They have continued to neglect Elderly Care - just as the WWII generation need our help (something that the dalek/demented headmistress & ex Health Minister Patsy Hewitt would do well to reflect upon, now that she "advises" the likes of [url= http://www.cinven.com/ ]Cinven[/url] on how to make money out of the NHS). Most of all, they have wasted goodwill - perhaps the greatest asset of them all. In short, [b]the Tories won't have to do that much to finish off the NHS[/b].
My view: make any incoming health minister don scrubs at least once a week and work as an auxiliary nurse. Having to feed and wash actual patients would do wonders to remind the bastard politicians of their responsibilities. I won't defend "the system" where there are problems, and I acknowledge the huuuuge challenge that is healthcare funding - but when it's good, the NHS is [i]very, very[/i] good (I hath seen it with mine own eyes). Don't let it slip away.
And breathe - sorry for block-of-text-rant.
Sorry, TJ - didn't see your post. No, I don't trust 'em either!
ps. - where are you, exyorkshiretruckwhore? 😀
noteeth obviously speaks from a position of experience in these matters
what worries me is that PFI and privatisation are undoubtedly thatcherite and im certain torry policies that cameron, osbourne and co. will carry out to their fullest extent
basically where is my alternative to these policies?
to my knowledge no one has stood up and said our party will stop the privatisation of healthcare and the NHS?
[i]basically where is my alternative to these policies?[/i]
I also wonder - though it's not difficult to see why the likes of [url= http://news.bbc.co.uk/vote2001/hi/english/newsid_1377000/1377445.stm ]Dr Richard Taylor[/url] enjoyed such support.
I'm no fan of Boris, but he looks like Mother Theresa next to Keith Vaz.
Refreshing to hear a politician go off on one, tbh.
Yep Flashheart, Johnson is an honest trustworthy politician.......
[url= http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article391143.ece ]Boris Johnson sacked for lying[/url]
[url= http://waugh.standard.co.uk/2008/04/breaking-news-.html ]Boris shares blunder[/url]
[url= http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2008/01/31/david-cameron-left-reeling-over-boris-johnson-s-250k-donation-shame-89520-20303862/ ]David Cameron left reeling over Boris Johnson's £250k donation shame[/url]
Of course everyone aggrees that Boris Johnson is very clever indeed, so all that dodgy stuff isn't because he's stupid and he 'forgot'. Which must only mean that it's because he's just a right dodgy **** !
And btw Flashheart, when is Johnson going to honour the promise, just about only promise, he made during the mayoral election and bring back the Routemasters ?
Come on Flashheart hit me with it....
Alternative to privatisation in the NHS - Liberal democrat, SNP, SSP, Green
And why have you excluded Plaid Cymru TJ ?
To be fair, apart from the Tories and New Labour, just about every other party in the UK is opposed to the creeping privatisation of healthcare.
[i]And btw Flashheart, when is Johnson going to honour the promise, just about only promise, he made during the mayoral election and bring back the Routemasters ?[/i]
He was (trying) to justify this one when he was on Top Gear, Clarkson harangued him for it but the silly blond fool spent so much time um-ing and ah-ing that it never really became understandable. Something to do with contracts still had to run and risk assessments blah blah.
OK, I know he's actually very intelligent but he's still a prize pillock. Bring back Ken.
Thank you Gus for restoring some order, TJ, I think you like others here have been fooled by Johnson's charisma, he's an intelligent fellow and knows how to play to his strengths.
I seem to remember that people fell for another charismatic leader a few years back and we know what happened, what was his name...Tony or something.
Sonoor - not at all - he is a tory fop, a total upperclass twit and a dangerous conservative.
I'd just rather have him than Cameron. Blears or most of the other nonentitis in politics. FFS I'd rather have Heseltine!
You're off your trolly mate - a Conservative Party led by Johnson is immeasurably more scary than one led by Cameron imo.
TJ; you don't live in London, so you have no right to an opinion, sorry. You're not someone affected by Tory policies here.
BJ is merely a puppet of Tory central office, no more. KL was a Mayor who did things his way, not what the Labour party told him to do. And is far more in touch with all sorts of Londoners, than that Tory Boy toff ever will be.
RED KEN CHA CHA CHA!!