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The Mongomery is more leftywaffle, it's been there since WW2 and if it goes up Southend will get a headache and anyway Boris has probably already thought of it, or should I say the Engineers who are advising him have will have thought of it.
There are five possible locations for [url= 
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So Boris hasn't forgotten anything, he probably doesn't even know the Montgomery is there any more than he has a clue where his island will end up, that's his charm, he doesn't need to know, he just needs to be there for nice decent God fearing right wing folk to appreciate as he's creating jobs for their children for the future. 😉
[url= http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/9158948/Ken-Livingstone-accused-of-rich-Jews-remark.html ]Oh dear oh dear ken[/url]
@hora - he's a mayor part time, he is full time on self publicity. He makes £140k from being mayor and many multiples of that from writing articles / columns. Anyway it's Mr Cameron who needs to take note not Ed Milliband, its the Tory party leadership he's after not Labour.
EDIT: The Boris Island Airport is an appalling idea, it is however consistent with my self-publicity point above.
Is being ginger officially a disability now?
No, but Downs Syndrome is.
Oh dear oh dear ken
Oh dear what? some remarks in a private meeting, taken out of context? Can't you do any better than that? Was that actually meant to be 'proof' of Ken's 'anti-semitism'?
Hi Mike
*waves*
Out of interest : What are Ken and Bozza's views about Critical Mass?
If you run a business like a government dept, you'd have gone bust in a week*!!
If you ran a business like a government department, you wouldn't be running a business. They are two fundamentally different activities.
igrf - MemberThe Mongomery is more leftywaffle
I really like how right-wingers on STW often try to turn the most into obscure issues into a left verses right thing 🙂
Leader of UKIP Nigel Farage is not a lefty, in fact he is more right wing than the Tory Party, he calls Boris Island "simply insane". Quote :
[i]" I wouldn’t like to travel from an airport, let alone work there, which is in the vicinity of a deadly sunken ship from World War Two"
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[url= http://www.kentnews.co.uk/blogs/boris_island_airport_in_the_thames_estuary_airport_is_simply_insane_1_1385088 ]Boris Island airport in the Thames Estuary airport is simply insane[/url]
Hi [s]Mike[/s]Fred*waves*
Out of interest : What are Ken and Bozza's views about Critical Mass?
Good point. 🙂
Out of interest : What are Ken and Bozza's views about Critical Mass?
hi binners!
Possibly a tad better informed than yours, seeing as how they actually live and work in London.
mikeconnor - Member
under Boris Johnson, London has become more expensive, more congested, more polluted and more divided. Crime has risen. we've seen riots here. People feel less safe. Transport costs more. And he's cut the budget for cycle lanes.
Extraordinary to think that he has won two London elections then!?! Equally extraordinary to see the reaction yesterday (unless that was solely media hype).
As for writing newspaper articles - where's the problem? I think that it is great that politicians regularly make their views clear in print. It makes it far easier to consider where they stand critically rather than relying on the normal party spin machines. He makes gaffes and some sensible comments in spoken and written words. Perhaps that is part of his "perceived" charm? However, the gaffes become more serious and less-forgivable the higher up the political ladder he ascends and I would expect they will end-up representing a final un-surmountable hurdle to his own political aspirations.
Out of interest : What are Ken and Bozza's views about Critical Mass?
I'm more interested in whether gingered-haired orthodox Jews make good car drivers ?
binners - Member
Hi Mike*waves*
Out of interest : What are Ken and Bozza's views about Critical Mass?
Am I allowed an opinion? I don't live in London, never met Boris, or been to Eton.
Extraordinary to think that he has won two London elections then!?!
He lost them both in inner-London - he won them in the suburbs.
In that case: No!
In fact, it looks like we'll all have to butt out leave this to the Tory Londonista's. Oh well.....
Puts kettle on.........
Possibly a tad better informed than yours, seeing as how they actually live and work in London
Oh nice reply 😀
I'm more interested in whether gingered-haired orthodox Jews make good car drivers ?
Better 😆
Hi ernie!
A (Jewish) friend and I were almost run down on a zebra crossing in Stamford Hill last Thursday. By an Orthodox Jewish gentleman. There then followed an argument between my friend and the driver, where several Hebrew/Yiddish words which i don't understand were exchnged. Hashem was mentioned.
Fortunately no-one was hurt and we all went on our way again. Sadly, Grodzinsky's were shut.
ernie_lynch - Member
Extraordinary to think that he has won two London elections then!?!
He lost them both in inner-London - he won them in the suburbs.
Ah, that makes it easier to understand - but, given the flak above, still extraordinary. He is so full of contradictions that the best I can find to say for him is that at least he adds colour to the relatively drab current political environment. Whether he brings real substance.......?
Fred WAS back last week, yakking on. 😀
Don't think anyone noticed, apart from t'mods.
I suspect that in the unlikely event of him getting any 'real' power, as opposed to being a glorified transport chief, we'd see plenty of substance. All of it pretty unpleasant. From his right-wing nut-jobs backers, who will be wanting their payback
EDIT: Shit! Sorry! I forgot I don't live in London so I'm not entitled to an opinion. Please ignore all the above 😉
ernie_lynch - Member
igrf - Member
The Mongomery is more leftywaffleI really like how right-wingers on STW often try to turn the most into obscure issues into a left verses right thing
Leader of UKIP Nigel Farage is not a lefty, in fact he is more right wing than the Tory Party, he calls Boris Island "simply insane". Quote :
" I wouldn’t like to travel from an airport, let alone work there, which is in the vicinity of a deadly sunken ship from World War Two"
Boris Island airport in the Thames Estuary airport is simply insane
Yes, this is to complicated to explain and I don't think I can continue to do it in an ironic tenor so I'm going to fold, Nigel Farage is of course the total voice of reason, but sadly even he isn't going to stop Boris and he probably sees Boris as the biggest threat to UKIP for the Tory right anyway, but you're right, er no I didn't mean right, I meant correct, I give in, I've no wish to argue with a left wing big hitter and risk a ban.
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Extraordinary to think that he has won two London elections then!?!
The fact Boris won says more about Ken than it does about Boris.
The fact that Boris won says more about his friends in the media than it does about his policies.
Oh look, another vanity project:
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Shame it cost so much, breaks down, isn't actually any better in use than existing buses, and looks nothing like the Routemaster it was supposed to replace, but hey ho. We won't mention the fact that it doesn't go round corners as well as existing buses, a feature quite relevant to it's suitability in a city like London. and best keep quiet about the fact that it will cost all UK taxpayers to fund, not just Londoners (binners you are allowed to comment on this if you like).
The fact that Boris won says more about his friends in the media than it does about his policies.
Are we talking about dern-dern-dern.....supa BORIS!
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The fact that Boris won says [b]more people voted for him[/b]
The rest is just conjecture
The reason that most government ministers reside over departments that spaff money away like water, is because none of them have ever run a business.
If only they had experience of running banks...
I did add that in as an aside Ransos. Banks exist by their own rules that aren't applied to any other business, it appears. In fact, the whole concept of the bail outs has echoes of... dare I say it... socialism
Mike - the whole Routemaster charade has all the hallmarks, from start to finish of making Policy up on the back of a Sun Editorial column. Something i suspect, given his closeness to Murdoch, we'd be seeing an awful lot more of if Boz got the big job. Still... at least Jeremy Hunt and Michael Gove would always be guaranteed a cabinet position. Something I think we would all be thankful of
Banks exist by their own rules that aren't applied to any other business, it appears. In fact, the whole concept of the bail outs has echoes of... dare I say it... socialism
Umm, history is littered with bail outs of failed private industry. Railtrack, anyone? How about British Leyland?
Railtrack wasn't bailed out. It was nationalised, wasn't it? Thats quite a bit different.
And other than a bank, I can't think of anybody getting bailed out since the 70's
Railtrack wasn't bailed out. It was nationalised, wasn't it? Thats quite a bit different.
It was nationalised (as was British Leyland) because it was a failed private business. That's the point.
As has already been said, running a business and running the government are very different things, and it's not as though we short of examples of failures in the private sector, is it?
The point I was making is that most of these career politicians haven't run anything more challenging than a bath!
Then we hand them a budget of however many billion and then wonder why most of them are busy writing blank cheques. Including Dave 'I'll cut the deficit, not the NHS' Cameron and George 'I'll eliminate the structural deficit in one term' Osbourne.
If I was relying on anyone to balance a budget I wouldn't be looking to someone who'd lived their life with a multi-million pound trust fund to fall back on
The point I was making is that most of these career politicians haven't run anything more challenging than a bath!
Oh, I agree. It's a pity that we don't have more MPs with experience of running public services/ administrations. I'd say someone who's turned round a failing local authority would have the right sort of experience for running a government department.
The point I was making is that most of these career politicians haven't run anything more challenging than a bath!
Complete Nonsense, one of the local MPs [url= http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/oct/08/grant-shapps-how-to-corp-michael-green?INTCMP=SRCH ]Michael Green[/url] has a string of successful businesses 😀
A few years ago I emailed him late at night, and was pretty amazed to get a response back in a couple of minutes. I remember at the time being impressed how tech savvy he was 🙂
thats rubbish next thing youll be telling me we have a health secretary who believes in homeopathy but not abortions.........
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The point I was making is that most of these career politicians haven't run anything more challenging than a bath!
But that's not true, though, is it? Politics and government are very challenging.
Smooth talkers have no place in politics then...
thank god we have this lot in charge then or it could all go horribly wrong
i think binners wider point is we have career politicians who are good at being politicians/climbing the slippery pole. This may not be the same as being a good minister or even a good government
I dont even think this is a party political point.
Has it ever really been any different though, sometimes we look back at the past with some misplaced sense that it was better than it really was.
[b]binners[/b]Banks exist by their own rules that aren't applied to any other business, it appears.
Banks play by the rules set by regulators, ie the government. We all get a vote for the government.
We all get a vote for the government.
But we all don't get to sit down at expensive lunches and offer them directorships in return for favourable regulation.
Both parties are now stuffed with people who got there via exactly the same route
(Predominently Private) School > Oxbridge to study PPE > Party Press Office/Westminster Think Tank > Private Secretary > Parachuted into a safe seat against the wishes of the local party > Junior Minister
Nobody has had anything remotely resembling what most of us recognise as a 'job'. And we wonder why the country is absolutely ****ed!!!
igrf - MemberNigel Farage is of course the total voice of reason
Not imo but maybe in yours.
What he is for certain though is a right-winger, and one who has expressed serious concerns about the possible risks associated with the Montgomery - something which in a bizarre attempt to turn into a right v left issue, you describe as "leftywaffle".