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The outcry that greeted the BBC's announcement that radio listeners outside the UK cannot access Sounds doesn't seem to have changed much, all bar R4 will disappear from July 21st so my favourite weekend listening will go. Anyone found a way around this as I'm bereft.
VPN with location set to UK and then stream via BBC Sounds?
I listen via the app on my phone but via Wiim servers to my amp. I wonder if the ending of BBC Sounds app will filter down?
Also got the app on my phone to play via my car's head unit. Was working today.
I did have a webpage that had some HD streams of lots of BBC Sounds stations but seems most, if not all, are dead links now.
VPN it may well be.
I've been hearing bits and bobs about this and saw an uninformative banner message at the top of the Sounds web page.
What is actually happening? Are the BBC just going to turn off access to their radio stations for the rest of the world?
I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced a subscription service of some sort for overseas listeners at some point in the future, as a way of increasing income.
VPN would be my first option at the moment though.
Yes, it was initially announced to happen spring this year but following an outcry from various groups including Welsh speakers in Patagonia and thousands of ex pats and holidaymakers all over the world, they delayed it and promised a rethink. What actually happened is that R4 only is able to be streamed and some podcasts. It's a crap decision and the savings are minimal compared to the amounts they spaff on "talent" salaries and middle management. The soft power that the BBC generates worldwide is enormous but seemingly this doesn't count
I use Nord VPN to listen to football commentary on radio 5 on the sounds app so I'm hoping it will be as simple as just using a VPN to be able keep using the sounds app . I would really miss it , regularly listen to 6music shows in the car .
Did they not say that there would still be a way to listen abroad just not on the sounds app ?
They come over here, take our RadMacs...
I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced a subscription service of some sort for overseas listeners at some point in the future, as a way of increasing income.
Someone should tell them that other countries also have radio stations...
I wouldn't be surprised if they introduced a subscription service of some sort for overseas listeners at some point in the future, as a way of increasing income.
Which some might say is what they should do.
Of you don't live in the UK and presumably aren't paying a tv licence how exactly are you paying for it?
I used to work with James at the BBC - this is probably a very accurate summary of what/why/outcome
https://james.cridland.net/blog/2025/bbc-radio-overseas-what-now/
and this is the latest which suggests that *live* streams will continue to be available, but not on demand
https://james.cridland.net/blog/2025/bbc-radio-overseas-a-new-plan/
Which some might say is what they should do.
Of you don't live in the UK and presumably aren't paying a tv licence how exactly are you paying for it?
The BBC has some pretty good radio stations but not so good that anyone would pay for them.
There's a lot of truth in the saying, 'If you aren't paying for a product then you are the product'. In this case, people abroad aren't the target of advertisers but they are being used as a way of focusing attention on the UK and, more importantly, what the UK is focusing on.
For me personally, I make my kids listen to 6music. Partly because it's better than the shite they listen to but also it does give them a little bit more of a connection to the UK. Most of what they know about the UK at the moment is me telling them what it was like growing up in Glasgow in the 80s and 90s.
I'm not sure how much license fee payers are paying in bandwidth fees so that anyone in the world can listen to the BBC but I can't imagine it's much. But if the most important thing is that you are saved a fraction of a penny on your license fee so that others can't listen to 'your' radio stations then that's absolutely valid.
My kids will just be listening to Radio Popolare instead.
There'd be no need to have a subscription - they could just do what they do with channels like BBC America - Channels broadcasting BBC content for foreign markets - and have adverts. About 30% of the BBC's turnover is from commercial actively rather than the licence fee and a good chunk of that income comes from advertising, just not adverting on their own channels in the UK (although they do get adverting income in the UK too through their creation of UKTV which uses advert income to buy content from the BBC). So they just need a version of something like BBC Sounds for foreign markets that carries advertising.
But it might not be a license fee issue so much as a music licensing issue. The BBC benefits from a blanket deal for music broadcasting, but only in the UK. If BBC Sounds is building a significant foriegn listenership it'll be putting them in contravention of that deal.
But if the most important thing is that you are saved a fraction of a penny on your license fee so that others can't listen to 'your' radio stations then that's absolutely valid.
Not so i save a fraction of a penny more like. More like if you want the bbc to exist then maybe don't sponge it? And of its not worth paying for then... Don't listen to it?
There'd be no need to have a subscription - they could just do what they do with channels like BBC America - C
To be fair while i did say subscription i did generally mean "generate money in someeway from the freeloaders"
Not so i save a fraction of a penny more like. More like if you want the bbc to exist then maybe don't sponge it? And of its not worth paying for then... Don't listen to it?
I use free services guilt free because I assume we are both getting something out of it. If they decide they don't want me using their free services anymore then I won't use them. Like I said, Radio Popolare is quite happy for people all over the world to listen to them.
Therefore, if 6Music is no longer available, my kids can strengthen their Italian roots while their UK roots can be weakened.
Once they are ready to enter the workforce (having had the entirety of their early life costs paid for by a third country) then possibly the fact they haven't spent their formative years listening to a UK radio station won't have any perceivable effect on where they decide to settle. But it might. In which case the loss of productivity will dwarf any bandwidth costs that might have been incurred growing up.
But if you want to think that all having BBC radio overseas means is that spongers get to splurge on your license fee then go right ahead.
Incidentally, I can't help but notice you're complaining about BBC freeloaders whilst being a Free Member of this forum.
This is not to have a go at Free Members. Just to point out that I'm sure you accept the argument that if you aren't paying for a product then you are the product for this forum but for some reason not for the BBC.
Seems a bit inconsistent.
Incidentally, I can't help but notice you're complaining about BBC freeloaders whilst being a Free Member of this forum.
A. i am not complaining about anyone.
B. I am subjected to the adverts and sometimes i even buy through them. Which is the sgreement asfar as i can see?
C. I don't complain about the website and if they took it away because i don't pay then i would be okay with that.
I'm not sure why you have your knickers in a twist about my opinion. But you are very welcome to not agree.
You seem to be the one with their knickers in a twist about me being a BBC freeloader. I've already said if access to the BBC goes away then I'll just listen to radio stations from places they are available.
However, I've also explained why I think the savings will be minimal and the potential losses could be very costly. Obviously the impact of people losing their feelings of connection to the UK is difficult to measure but I'd say it's not a good thing to lose regardless.
But like you say, we are all entitled to different opinions.
Anyway, it seems to be academic as, according to this page, I'll still be able to freeload:
Apparently I'll just have to listen via a browser rather than the app. Which is what I mostly do anyway.
It really makes me wonder what the point is.
Ha. I genuinely didn't mean anything by the freeloader comment.
Someone used to have it on here as their tagline thing under their username. It always amused me as a freeloader myself.
I sometimes use these URLs to stream BBC radio. Might be useful - for how long, I don't know.
garfnet.org.uk/download/radio/bbc-radio.txt
The BBC has some pretty good radio stations but not so good that anyone would pay for them.
Erm, I happy pay about £170 a year to (in part) fund the BBC's radio output, as do many others.
There's a lot of truth in the saying, 'If you aren't paying for a product then you are the product'. In this case, people abroad aren't the target of advertisers but they are being used as a way of focusing attention on the UK
I wouldn't attribute the "soft power" argument to BBC domestic broadcasting being available overseas, it may be a happy byproduct of technological advances, but it's just happened by accident rather than something intentional, in my view.
The BBC's funding model makes it an exception to that "you are the product" statement.
Speaking as a continental freeloader I've used the Sounds app for years, so I've understandably been looking for another Android Auto friendly source for all my radio needs.
TuneIn is the solution
The whole “just for us fee payers” approach to the BBC completely overlooks how important it has been to our wider culture and economy when it comes to reaching out beyond our borders to sell our products and services.
Erm, I happy pay about £170 a year to (in part) fund the BBC's radio output, as do many others.
Erm, you can actually listen to all the BBC Radio you want without paying £170 a year.
Of course, it's not just TV license payers who fund BBC radio. If you consume BBC content anywhere in the world (and you are somehow paying for it) then you are also funding BBC Radio.
Doesn't change the fact that I doubt anyone would pay just to access BBC radio. Which is probably why it's still going to be available after BBC Sounds is shut off for us foreign types (and I'm still not sure what purpose removing BBC Sounds for foreign users serves).
I wouldn't attribute the "soft power" argument to BBC domestic broadcasting being available overseas, it may be a happy byproduct of technological advances, but it's just happened by accident rather than something intentional, in my view.
The BBC's funding model makes it an exception to that "you are the product" statement.
Just because things happen by accident doesn't make them not valid. Besides, The BBC World Service has been a soft power thing since long before the days of the internet. I suspect the internet just allowed them to expand the scope beyond a single radio station.
I can't help but wonder if this is just an exercise in optics for the BBC. Particularly since the charter is up for renewal and everyone seems to be pretty upset with it at the moment.
Like I said, for me removing BBC sounds is going to be a minor inconvenience since I will be forced to stop using an app and use a browser instead (which I already do when I'm using a PC anyway).
Is it just a bit of red meat for the 'foreign freeloaders stealing our license fee' types:
The BBC has some pretty good radio stations but not so good that anyone would pay for them.
Wrong!
I'd very happily pay my licence fee just for BBC radio and Sounds.
Between radios 2, 4 5 and 5 sports extra along with podcasts such as Tailenders and No Balls I spend hours listening each week. Fantastic quality and no adverts.
Erm, you can actually listen to all the BBC Radio you want without paying £170 a year.
My point is that the money I contribute ACTUALLY DOES PAY FOR BBC RADIO.
And your claim that nobody would be willing to pay for it as a standalone product is highly debatable.
Or to put it another way, of course they ****ing would.
My point is that the money I contribute ACTUALLY DOES PAY FOR BBC RADIO.
Yes, probably as much as I did by watching Line of Duty and The Last Kingdom on Netflix.
I guess we won't be able to settle the question of whether someone living abroad would pay to listen to BBC radio as it's unlikely to be put into practice anytime soon.
However, based on my own experiences, there are a lot of good radio stations in the world you can listen to without paying anything. Given the choice between paying for something and getting something for free most people will choose to get something for free.
Given the choice between paying for something and getting something for free most people will choose to get something for free.
There's a lot of people who could access this forum for free but choose to pay to support something they value.
Even if I didn't have a TV I'd still pay the BBC licence fee as I value the radio so highly.
There's other services I could get for free as well but choose to pay to support them. Walkhighlands.co.uk is just one of them.
There's a lot of people who could access this forum for free but choose to pay to support something they value.
But then we're coming back to the 'If you don't pay for the product you are the product' question. With BBC radio I'd argue it's more nebulous and subtle than bombarding users with pop-up ads but I'd say it's still a relatively cheap 'soft-power' product and, as @kelvin said, it helps promote British bands.
Anyway, this all started because someone suggested the BBC could be going to a subscription model for radio from abroad. I think that would be a terrible idea because I sincerely doubt anyone abroad would pay to listen to radio as there are just too many good options available out there. For example, if you like 6Music here are some alternatives from various countries (including the UK):
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NTS Radio – https://www.nts.live
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Soho Radio – https://sohoradiolondon.com
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RTÉ 2XM – https://www.rte.ie/radio/2xm
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FIP – https://www.fip.fr
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Radio Nova – https://www.nova.fr
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ByteFM – https://www.byte.fm
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Radio Raheem – https://www.radioraheem.it
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KEXP – https://www.kexp.org
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WFMU – https://www.wfmu.org
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The Current – https://www.thecurrent.org
Anyway, like I said, as far as I can see it really is academic as those of us abroad will still be able to access BBC radio stations, just not through the BBC Sounds app (and possibly being able to listen on Catch-up is being removed).
It seems like they aren't removing access, they are just making everything more difficult to find.
Which is why I'm wondering what the point of it all is.
Yes, probably as much as I did by watching Line of Duty and The Last Kingdom on Netflix.
No, the vast majority of the BBC Radio budget comes via the licence fee.
That's literally how it's funded.
I don't feel you're willing to acknowledge that for some reason though?
No, the vast majority of the BBC Radio budget comes via the licence fee.
That's literally how it's funded.
I don't feel you're willing to acknowledge that for some reason though?
According to my search engine's AI summary 68% of the BBC's funding comes from license fees with the rest coming from commercial activities (ie, us foreigners buying BBC stuff).
The vast amount of content consumed (in terms of costs) by license fee payers is TV (assuming the user has ever watched a program with one of the 'star' presenters). Us foreign freeloaders don't watch most of the content produced by the BBC. The stuff we do watch (and pay for) still ends up being used to pay for BBC radio.
Calculating how much you pay to watch BBC TV programs directly vs how much I pay to watch BBC programs on Netflix or NRK or whatever foreign provider is probably impossible. Yes, you pay more directly to the BBC but then you almost certainly consume far more of their content as well.
In all this you should probably spare a thought for the selfless individuals who have to pay their license fee and yet don't consume any BBC content whatsoever. I'm sure in their minds you are far more of a freeloader than I am. They are literally paying for your services and getting nothing in return.
Which is why when it comes to BBC funding it's a slippery slope to start deciding who deserves what.
Putting aside the freeloader thing. I think it was Jamie btw.
I was never coming from a "only licence fee payers allowed"
I was coming from a "if its that good, then if paying for it ,in some way, meant you got to keep listening, would that be a bad thing? "
I've not really seen a convincing argument that it would, subscription... Yeah probably not a goer. But the argument that loss of culture would ensue... Well that also holds true if services are cut or if generally the quality goes down doesn't it? I find radio 6 pretty tedious requiring some heavy dipping in and out but if its anylike the comedy etc. i would say we already see quite a dip in output quantity and quality.
I think asking people to pay for something they've always gotten for free is always going to be a difficult sell. It can work providing you can show a significant increase in what is being provided.
For example, once the downhill went to GCN I decided to pay the £6.99 a month because in addition to the downhill there was a lot of other content I actually wanted to watch. That's why people were so pissed off at being told the cost was going from £6.99 to £30 a month with no improvement in the content provided (from a bike racing point of view).
If the BBC decided to make radio subscription based with nothing extra for the money then I would have to say no. Like I said, there's a lot of really good radio stations out there that are free.
However, if they wanted me to pay a monthly subscription to get radio plus iplayer then that might be something worthwhile.
However, given that the world is generally going headlong into eternal enshitification being asked to pay for stuff we've always gotten for free is something we're all probably going to have to get used to.
Now this thread has made me think about it I realise I am paying the licence fee pretty much for a little bit of glastonbury the other week, and the Archers omnibus.
I do value the BBC beyond what I watch tho so i'll keep at it.
Occasionally driving in a car share vehicle, and having to listen to local commercial radio, is a nice reminder of how much I value the BBC. My god, it's abysmal.
Even the CBC, Canadian equivalent, doesn't hold a candle to the breadth and quality of the BBC. I think I only really properly started to appreciate it after I left the country.
Looks like I'll be using a VPN for the radio, as well as iPlayer 😳
Looks like I'll be using a VPN for the radio, as well as iPlayer 😳
Like I said earlier, it looks like we'll still be able to listen to radio by going directly to the URLs.
Which is why I'm wondering what the actual point of all this is. Access to the stations is not being removed but taking away access to Sounds removes an easy way of finding them, especially on phones and tablets. Access from PCs is more or less unchanged.
I don't understand what they are trying to achieve.
it's just happened by accident rather than something intentional
Not really, there will have been an active decision to make Sounds available outside the UK that is now being reconsidered. Unlike iPlayer for example. As folks have pointed out, BBC output has been, and may continue to be, available on the web for a while.
the BBC World Service was a very purposeful ‘soft power’ instrument. Reductions in Foreign Office support for that have affected its output and continue to do so.
the BBC World Service was a very purposeful ‘soft power’ instrument. Reductions in Foreign Office support for that have affected its output and continue to do so.
I don't think any funding for the world service come out of TV licenses does it?
Not really, there will have been an active decision to make Sounds available outside the UK that is now being reconsidered. Unlike iPlayer for example. As folks have pointed out, BBC output has been, and may continue to be, available on the web for a while.
The main reason iPlayer is not available globally is that the BBC has only commissioned UK rights on much of it's TV content. It would be a legal nightmare.
I grant you that there may have been a "soft power" benefit to Sounds being available globally, but it's a big stretch to imagine a conversation about that ever having taken place under the Tory administrations of the time.
But yes, I'm sure someone asked the question of whether it should be geo-fenced before and they had a reason not to. I've honestly no idea what that reason was though.
Ack that's a shame - I've been loyal R6M for 18 years, across 2 continents; and much of my weekly listening is listening after the fact to the funk n soul show, David Rodigan's 1Xtra show, and so on. I'd listen with ads - the BBC already inserts a bunch of BBC-specific ads into its radio streams, so not a huge difference - but it's the commercial aspect of the music that'll be the challenge I guess.
Not quite sure what to do next; VPN and mobile phone in the short term, and try to see how I can pipe things through my Sonos
Actually, about 80% of my day is listening to BBC output - normally R6M in the morning, while walking the dog and working, then listen again to various shows. Not quite sure how I'll manage without it, depressingly!
Again, unless I've misread the BBC's website then all the radio stations are still going to be available, just not via Sounds:
In particular see this section:
Where can I listen to live BBC stations outside the UK?BBC Radio 4 and BBC World Service English are available on bbc.com and the BBC app. Please use the links below for live listening access to the BBC's other radio stations from across the UK, including BBC Radio 1, Radio 2, and Radio 3, 6Music, 1Xtra and Asian Network, Radio 4Xtra and 5Live, all the BBC's stations from the UK nations and every local radio station in England.
And my question remains, if we will still have access to the radio stations then what is the purpose of taking away Sounds?
Actually, if you click on one of the links it takes you to the Sounds page for that station which has a banner saying they are removing access to Sounds and a link which takes you to the page with the links to the Sounds pages.
Yes, it is very clear what will happen on the 22nd July.
I don't think any funding for the world service come out of TV licenses does it?
I think it's been about 50:50 for the last decade... half direct gov funding, half from general BBC funds (which are a mix of licence fee, advertising, selling shows to other broadcasters, franchising show names for other media, etc, as discussed above).
The main reason iPlayer is not available globally is that the BBC has only commissioned UK rights on much of it's TV content.
This is an issue that both the BBC and Channel 4 are facing - in that the market for TV is becoming global, but also the programmes appealing to global audiences correspondingly have global budgets from their global streaming subscriptions. Once upon a time a key difference between the BBC and C4 was all the BBC's content was produced in house and owned by the BBC where as Channel 4's remit when it was created was that it would commission television exclusively from independent producers - so C4 doesn't actually 'make' any TV (apart from its idents and trailers) - everything they commission is made by (and the rights are owned by) indpendent production companies.
So C4 can't sell programs to Netflix for instance, but the production company that made the show can. Similarly C4 can't franchise out programs to other territories but again the companies that make the programmes can.
The BBC by comparison could have done, at least historically - but over the years there has also been a push for the BBC to also outsource production to independents, so in fact theres also a lot of their more recent output that they don't own, so you get things like a hit BBC show like Bake-Off just wandering off to a different channel.
C4 is now pushing to be able to bring some of its program making in-house, as a way for the channel to survive by being able to access that international rights income - but is likely to meet a lot of resistance.
Bump!
Anyone know of any inventive ways to circumvent geo-blocking?
I've tried my VPN connected to a UK server.
I've tried faking my phone's GPS to London
I've tried changing my phone timezone to BST
I'm signed into Sounds with an Google email address with a UK address.
None of these worked 🙁
Timezone differences means I won't be able to listen to RadMac live and it's obviously not available on catch-up.
I'm gutted!
Sat at the bottom of the Mont Ventoux atm ready for tomorrow's TDF shenanigans but as soon as I get home to Cataluña, I'll be trying various options to get 6 music. My money's on our TVIP gizmo that allows us to watch BBC and other free to air channels, it has a radio function but R6 may not be one of them. I'll report back later in the week. Worrying that VPN doesn't work.
BBC Sounds pushed out an update (on Android) last week; I've a feeling that latest update splits into UK and non-UK versions, with the latter blocking people from listening regardless of where they appear to be.
Hypothetically, removing the app and restarting the phone; logging into a VPN then downloading the app and signing into it may help. GPS shouldn't make a difference as the app won't have permission to use that information.
The app is goosed but the URL is still working:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live/bbc_6music
On the PC it's the same as it was before. On the phone you have to set your browser to 'Desktop mode' so it will keep playing after you switch off the phone screen.
Obviously this is only for live radio. If you want to listen to previously broadcast stuff then I guess you're looking at VPNs and whatnot.
Which VPN are you using?
Proton VPN works fine for me. Was listening on my phone at work yesterday, then when I got in the car I got a message saying Android Auto might not work with VPN, and then, the music played. Very happy as 6 is my default station. But also can't miss listening to Tongy when I'm cooking my brekkie on a Sat morning. Or the Essential Mix.
I have not changed any settings at all, other than installing the VPN. Initially it took a while to buffer as I was on the work wifi. Took 10 mins or so, but it's a super slow connection. Zero issues at home.
For me personally, I make my kids listen to 6music
Careful, there are probably laws about child cruelty where you live.
Geographicaly limiting is just dumb. Lots of us exiles have a vote yet any attempt to get information about the UK comes from far-right owned news sources. On a personal level I threw a hissy fit at the Beeb in the run up to Gulf war II and don't use it, but cutting off voting British citizens does seem dumb, perhaps to be expected from a dumb organisation run by ****s under a royal charter from bigger ****s.
Sometimes the swear filter is welcome.
What's interesting is the BBC radio ads/ idents at the moment keep referring to it as "the voice of the UK". There's lots of questions you could ask about that ("surely you mean '...of Nigel Farage'?" for one), but it also sounds like the perfect reasoning as to why BBC Radio should be available outside the UK...
Proton VPN works fine for me.
Dumb question, but Proton VPN works on mobile data then, not just on WiFi?
Absolutely fine. The work wifi is pitifully slow. I'm sat here at my desk right now, streaming via my phone / VPN and using 5g cellular.
"A VPN works on mobile data just as well as it does on a WiFi network. However, while using a VPN on your mobile device improves your security and privacy, it can also increase your data consumption due to the encryption involved."
Weirdly - would not connect at all this arvo. I changed the VPN I was connected to, to "fastest" which is an Aussie server and it's playing fine, connected very quickly. I don't really understand, but I don't really care as long as it's working. A few mates have not been able to connect so it seems very hit and miss. I've purposely not updated the BBC Sounds app, fear of a new app and tweaked location settings. No doubt tho I'll forget and update a stack of apps.....
@BruceWee - thanks, that URL worked once I connected to my VPN AND uninstalled the BBC Sounds app
👍 I'm much less pissed off today 😉😄
On my phone (Google Pixel 6a plus Brave browser)...
On the phone you have to set your browser to 'Desktop mode' so it will keep playing after you switch off the phone screen.
...this step isn't necessary so even better
That's interesting. I can listen to all the stations without a VPN. And I haven't gotten round to uninstalling the Sounds app yet.
I can't get to any other links though on the page though.
Still working at the moment in New Zealand, just listened to the football on radio 5 . Had to use Nord VPN but you always had to for sports commentary.
I'm hoping that with a VPN the app will continue working . Due to the time difference I tend to listen to catch up shows on 6 music and would really miss it .
Home in Cataluña now, our Roberts Internet Radio works exactly as before as does Android Car Play in the car which is odd as it doesn't work just streaming through the phone
Shameless bump so as not to loose the momentum of this shit show. In reality I've not got a lot to complain about as I've now tried listening to stations other than Radio 4 or World Service on a variety of the radio types I own and it mainly remains unaltered. I've got a Sonos system which connects fine and is controlled from my phone, a Roberts Internet radio which plays all the stations it did before and oddly my Android Auto unit in the car connects via my phone and allows catch-up, podcasts etc etc. The main issue is that if I try to listen to 6music etc on my phone, the sounds app doesn't work and the replacement bus service app only allows R4 and World Service. The slightly dodgy garfnet link earlier on this thread works but given my numptiness, I can't find a way to create a shortcut on my android phone to access it quickly. The brucewee one just loops back to Sounds and the doom message Anyone able to help with words of one syllable would be gratefully received. Ta
I dunno what's happening. It's a schmozzle. Listening on my phone right now, in Australia, with no VPN. I guaran-bloody-tee that the moment I cancel my VPN I won't be able to connect (an no, the VPN isn't running in the background).
Hmm..
Here's a link to RadMac shows:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0100rp6/episodes/player
I use Brave browser on an Android phone (Pixel 6a) and clicking the highlighted icon below let's you bookmark the relevant page, so go to the above link and use the bookmark function of your browser.
Then when you want to listen, get the web address from your bookmarks
So it looks as though I cannot get the full range of stations on my mobile without a VPN. I've therefore been looking to buy another internet radio like my Roberts Stream 94i. Seems an exact replica isn't available on Amazon.es (sorry but few alternatives) but I'm being bombarded with ads for so called internet radios which seem to be just a Bluetooth speaker as they run from your phone's internet connection which is clearly no good to me. Any ideas on a stand alone radio costing up to €100 that is available via Amazon? I'm still completely perplexed how my phone enabled android car play device allows me to listen to the full BBC range whilst in the car.
Hang on, Marc Radcliffe said there was a new website available for overseas users on his program yesterday.
Something like bbc.com/audio I'll try to confirm.
The BBC audio website is their half arsed attempt to placate the listeners who only use R4 and World Service and are prepared to dig around for certain podcasts. There's no live sport or music, probably due to rights restrictions. I'm resigned to ditching the phone apart from Andriod Auto which I cannot fathom how that is unaltered. So the question is, are there any decent stand alone internet radios available that operate like my trusty Roberts Stream but not as spendy?
Hang on, Marc Radcliffe said there was a new website available for overseas users on his program yesterday
IIRC, he implied it was being extended and mentioned some date in the future (can't remember the date).
However, he also mentioned that it would be live streams only - which I assume means no catch-up...
Just noticed this the other day. Don't use BBC app that much.
Working with Nordvpn. Have a link with a discount code if anyone needs it .

