[Closed] Bloody hell Liverpool!

JY Torres and Shevchenko where Abramovich buys, do we think he's still calling the transfer shots ?

My guess is Morinho insisted he runs the transfers so if Falcoa is going there it will be his doing.

It could all be a bluff mind to try and get ManU to pay up.

The deal has ended they dont want him
TBH who on earth would pay that fee and those wages for what he did last year?
A strange deal IMHO

what did mufc actually win last season?

No one could argue it was a great result by man U and they are , at best, a work in progress. However liverpool clearly went backwards and UTD went fwd [ we can debate how far these steps were but not the direction.

I think the league tabe was a fair indication of the performance of both teams over the season. Trying to be unbiased (assumming de gea has gone) I think there would only be rooney who I would want in the Liverpool team (and maybe the manager)

Soooo, Arsenal to finish second this year ?

Top 4 will be in the same order as last season.

Liverpool are way off the pace. Sterling should be sold - he doesn't do enough.

£35m is too much!

Liverpool will take the £40 from Citeh....they have no choice. The way inflation is going in Footie, it may well turn out to be a bargain for Citeh.

I'd love to see Arsenal making a proper challenge for the title this year, but unless something changes within the team, I just don't see enough strength of mind in the team to achieve it. Jack Wheelchair's England performance may give him the confidence to move to the next level, but can he stay injury free? I can't see Man U improving on 4th and you just know the 'loathsome one' will propel his team into the top two minimum.

The 'unknown' is Citeh who may struggle... or may find some consistency....depending on the Dressing Room mood. I like Pellegrini, but am not convinced of his ability to motivate the Prima Donnas like JM does.

Anyway, when do The Ashes start? 8)

binners - Member

66deg - because its funny

Are you sure? it could simply be fags and pies withdrawal symptoms. 😀

bump, hope Sterlings enjoying this 😆

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Indeed heard Stuart Pearce on the radio this morning saying what a good move it had been for Sterling.

Congrats to Liverpool, a quality spanking of City in front of their own fans

MOTD will be good tonight.

Klopp. You've made us believers. Given us hope. And it helps that unlike Rodgers, you clearly know how to manage a football team.

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A new messiah then! Never mind the home defeat to Palace the game before....

Backheels and pretty much walking the ball into the net. It was truly wonderful to watch.

Klopp. You've made us believers. Given us hope. And it helps that unlike Rodgers, you clearly know how to manage a football team.

Hilarious.

Fair play to Clippety he has got them playing his high tempo pressing game really well.

Pelligrini's team selection made it easy for them though. Mangala and Sagna looked (understandably) out of sorts and Demichelis was very rusty. Playing Yaya and Fernando in front of them gave them little protection.

Lucky that Hart was at the races or it could have easily been 6 or more.

The league is wide open - interesting times.

It had more to do with MC being defensively awful than anything else but I like Klopp so good result. Still think Liverpool will struggle for top four though and MC will finish above them.

Scouse ****s are clearly going to win the league and the lot this season now 😯

Disgraceful display today, standard for the match after the international break though. Its a worry though, West Ham, Villa and now the Dippers.

Klopp. You've made us believers. Given us hope. And it helps that unlike Rodgers, you clearly know how to manage a football team.

I think Brendan's downfall was finishing 2nd, Suarez getting peckish at the world cup and then not having the resources to complete in the champions league and the premier league.
The same will happen to klopp after the fa cup gets started/next season should they get that top 4 place.

6-1 away to Southampton tonight. No bad.

Are you still going to win the League this season?

What happened to the cricket score?

There was talk of the first double figure scoreline in EPL history. 🙄

#kloppout

Just thought I'd wake this one up...
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Beginning of the end for Klopp?

Sounded like a truely dire game. First shot on target was in the 89th minute. Liverpool own goal preceeded that but doesn't count in those stats.

I will be trying to grab MOTD2 later on to have a look myself, my folks were actually dreading heading down to the Toon before hand but very happy after 🙂

Also Newcastle are a decent side, they are onky 2 points behind Chelsea 😀

Yeah Liverpool are crap though 9pts behind Leicester not exactly progress, still we will build on this with 2 sendings off and conceding 9 against spurs next week.

This thread still has great character.

This thread still has great character.

I watched the Southampton game with a scouse mate. By the second half she was doing 'The Scouse Thing', as we like to call it. otherwise known as [url= http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/liverpool-fans-braced-for-months-of-futile-optimism-20151204104445 ]'Its Our Season' syndrome[/url]. They just can't help themselves.

Embracing the moment, after she said they would definitely be challenging for the title this season, I said she should put her money where her mouth is. She did and put twenty quid on definitely finishing Top Four! The bloody fool!

Yesterday was a reality intrusion. She's been quiet. Normal service will now be resumed. Sturridge will pick up an injury next week that'll keep him out till February. Benteke will carry on being Benteke, so they'll have to resort to the traditional 'hoof it up front to the big man' thats so easy to defend against

The defence will be the leakiest in the premiership, with Skertl contributing at least another 4 own goals

You'll finish 7th

Again

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But did you take the counter-bet that Utd would score more than half a dozen goals in the remainder of the season? 😀

I think thats probably over optimistic! We'd already started ironically doing the old one nil to the Arsenal chant. We now seeem to see if we can play out a nil nil every week. Dire! The 'highlights' on MOTD are mercifully brief.

But then we're a bit more realistic than those at the other end of the M62. Everton, who are quietly getting on with it, without the Hyperbole, will finish above Liverpool

But did you take the counter-bet that Utd would score more than half a dozen goals in the remainder of the season?

Odds too short to make it worth it I should think. Anyway, we know binners' opinions are so clouded with obsessive hatred that they merit little attention and he needs diversion from the boredom of Van Gaal's tactics.

Anyway, no doubt Klopp has been good for Liverpool - but Newcastle just did what Liverpool have been doing for the last half dozen games. They pressed and hassled them, won the ball back and ground out a bloody good win for them considering how shit they are these days. And in the face of it, Liverpool had no answer - Alan Green righty pointed out that anyone thinking they could have a title challenge should be looking at that game. Liverpool are an average side with a few very good players but nobody world class. 5th or 6th would be a good finish, top four would be miraculous, and highly unlikely.

History jokes aside, the reality facing Liverpool is that if they go another say, 5 years without a title, their past successes really do start to become a historical rather than living memory thing. The Anfield faithful might delude themselves into thinking they somehow deserve to be a "big club" but the reality is they're nowhere near punching with the established top 4. Not with that squad. Too much dead weight that needs to be pruned. Their wage bill for players that do little or nothing must be staggering.

Still, Klopp's tenure has been enjoyable thusfar.

And we get to laugh at Chelsea losing at home to Bournemouth - this season really couldn't happen to nicer team, manager and set of supporters. A few of whom remain very quiet on STW this season.

Other than that, does anyone still believe it's actually a good league anymore? It's a bit shite isn't it? The worry long term on a national level, is that the EPL is becoming a graveyard for careers - look at world class players like Fabregas, Hazard to mention a few - now being barracked as shite because everything has to be won NOW! (They're both still earning a fortune I presume.) Hardly a world-class game changing English player on display in the top five or six teams

Going back a bit but...

PrinceJohn - Member

...I think Brendan's downfall was finishing 2nd, Suarez getting peckish at the world cup and then not having the resources to complete in the champions league and the premier league.
The same will happen to klopp after the fa cup gets started/next season should they get that top 4 place.

I think Brenda's downfall was wearing eyeliner and getting botox.
Might be the in thing at the other end of the motorway but he lost the city with them moves (and with the "reason" behind it)

This season could be the season for anyone still in touch by January (sorry Jose) nobody is being consistent apart from Leicester.

Leicester won't win the title and even qualification for Europe would be a miracle. All their "tilt" shows is that the public would welcome a competitive league, not necessarily that it is one. Normal order will be restored by March, with the possibility that Chelsea may finish outside the top 4 (we can but pray). If that happens, whoever fills the spot (Spurs most likely perhaps) better enjoy it...it can't happen twice in a row given the way the league works.

We now seeem to see if we can play out a nil nil every week.

Ist like he thinks the aim is no goals conceited and whoever had the ball the longest wins

Klopp is a good fit for Pool and they were unlucky yesterday - belting disallowed goal and IMHO they have enough flair players that if they can get some stability they can challenge in the near future

Chelsea who knows what is happening there but I think the players are just wary of Jose. Great when he is winning you will put up with him but when you are shit you see him and his methods for what they are...annoying.

Ist like he thinks the aim is no goals conceited and whoever had the ball the longest wins

Whilst it's rubbish to watch, I reckon as a platform to build on it's a hell of a lot netter than the cub scout attacking football other teams seem to be playing this year.

Chelsea who knows what is happening there

It is baffling to be fair. Same squad as last season more or less but absolutely dross this year. Yes, Ivanovic and Terry are a year slower but the rest of that team should be banging in goals for fun really.

I reckon Eva Carneiro was highly rated and well liked by the players and her treatment by Jose and the club has damaged the relationship between him/club/squad.

I reckon Eva Carneiro was highly rated and well liked by the players and her treatment by Jose and the club has damaged the relationship between him/club/squad.

Rumours put her as quite bit more than 'liked' by a certain players, which was the real reason that Jose got shut so clumsily and inexplicably. This has led to something of an atmosphere in the dressing room.

I'm loving Joses post match interviews. The ramblings of a paranoid madman. Its a good job Fergies not still around. He'd probably have driven him insane by now 😀

To be fair to Man U they are still in the hunt, a pretty ordinary Chelsea won the league last year. I do find all the talk of lining up the next manager a bit strange, sign of the times I suppose. Ditto with City.

Fabregas had a good season last year but if he was really world class Barcelona wouldn't have sold him (he wasn't even a regular starter) and Arsenal would have had him back. Hazard hasn't scored now for 25 matches (so I read). I don't see how Chelsea could turn their season round with January buys and there is the issue that they cannot be sure they will have Champions League football so may struggle to attract good players.

EDIT: I find it hard to believe the rough treatment metered oit to the club doctor is the root of Chelseas problems. I cant really see any of todays footballers or indeed the management of a club like Chelsea caring two hoots about the doctor. She did a daft thing and should have known better, she didn't deserve the response. The club doctor is eminently expendable

Well, she's a good looking woman, and they're a crowd of sex addicted footballers - I'm sure she was regularly doing the whole team in one marathon post match session. Jesus wept...rumours indeed. Football and its fans - welcome to the 21st century where we can safely assume sometimes that female doctors can operate professionally amongst sportsmen.

a pretty ordinary Chelsea

You don't confine your delusions to politics and the middle east. We can safely say that.

Odinary they where @dd, played for a draw at Liverpool and got lucky. A draw would have been enough for Liverpool and they should have been smart enough to take it and thus the PL. Chelsea won the league as their challengers imploded, this season they've been found out.

Sorry Bravissimo. I'd forgotten that something would have to be right-on and politically correct for there to be any shred of truth in it....

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jamba, you're talking about the season before you muppet.

EDIT: I find it hard to believe the rough treatment metered oit to the club doctor is the root of Chelseas problems. I cant really see any of todays footballers or indeed the management of a club like Chelsea caring two hoots about the doctor. She did a daft thing and should have known better, she didn't deserve the response. The club doctor is eminently expendable

She's not expendable if she's doing a good job and the squad like her. Whether she did something stupid or not is debatable (I think anyone with common sense thinks she did the right thing - the ref called her on didn't he?) but her subsequent treatment by Mourinho and the club was pretty shocking - it might well be enough to make the team "not like" the manager.

Sorry Bravissimo. I'd forgotten that something would have to be right-on and politically correct for there to be any shred of truth in it....

I just have a dislike of "rumours" binbins...if they're borne of sexist attitudes, I dislike them even more. If she wants to shag the team, then it's her business, not mine or anybody else's.

Other than that, does anyone still believe it's actually a good league anymore? It's a bit shite isn't it?

Yes, me. This has been a fantastic season so far.

Fair enough - what do you think has been fantastic about it?

(Chelsea's season has been fantastic for lots of people, I'll accept that.)

It's entertaining in that it's so unpredictable but the actual games have been pretty dreadful. The quality of football is the worst I can remember it.

fantastic, it's actually competitive, we are in November and it's still open for 6/7 teams, the bottom end of the table is wide open and there will be a lot to play for for a good few months.

Fair enough - what do you think has been fantastic about it?

That we're being entertained by competitive, attacking teams who are outside the established 3 or 4 who usually have the season sewn up by now.

Oh, and Chelsea's implosion, of course.

It's entertaining in that it's so unpredictable but the actual games have been pretty dreadful.

+1 See my point about Leicester's tilt above. I welcome the competitiveness, like any fan, but the quality has been poor. Even Liverpool's three big away victories, while all excellent results, were accompanied by nothing like the quality of their 13/14 season.

Its fascinating that almost everyone has had the same problem. The one Liverpool demonstrated this week. The same squad, maybe with a few changes, will be brilliant one game, then the next one they'll look like they've never met each other before.

The only team who have been consistent is United (excepting Leicester obviously). Consistently bloody dull! Oh... and Chelsea. I'm loving every minute of every Chelsea game at the moment. 😀

Imagine if we could have competitiveness without dullness and emerging English talent that might compete at an international competition?

Fascinating and competitive (although I'd put my house on a team that has won it before winning it again this season) yes, but high quality? For me, no. Jeez, even Serie A is more exciting to watch than the EPL at the moment. 🙂

Fascinating and competitive (although I'd put my house on a team that has won it before winning it again this season) yes, but high quality? For me, no.

The established top 4 are certainly of poorer quality than usual, but several "lesser" teams in the top half are playing some quick, attacking football, and to call the likes of Leicester poor quality does them a disservice.

There's not much point worrying about the national game unless the league is re-structured to support it.

and to call the likes of Leicester poor quality does them a disservice.

Aye, to re-phrase, I'm just talking about the league as a whole, not specific teams.

There's not much point worrying about the national game unless the league is re-structured to support it.

Yep, pretty much.

Yep, pretty much.

Expanding on that, if we want to re-structure the league to support England, we could probably look forward to a German or Spanish model where the league is dominated by a couple of teams.

I've been lauding Germany for years, but the Bundesliga is now kind of a one team league. 😀

However, it's the structure throughout the country that leads to the international success.

Swansea are falling apart 😥

She did a daft thing and should have known better

What daft hing did she do? I watched that match live and she was called on by the ref to treat a [s]time wasting[/s] injured player, if anything the player (Hazard?) should have been given the rocket not the doctor. Anyway Mourinho has never won anything in his 3rd season anywhere so they may as well sack him now and save the embarrassment.

Leicester let in too many goals to go the distance IMO and they will get worked out.

jamba, you're talking about the season before you muppet.

@dragon, she should have phaffed around, not come to the sdieline and wasted time in the same was as Hazard. The ref would have stood over Hazard and he would have got up when told it was that or leaving the field for treatment. I don't approve of any of that but its the way of the game

Whether she did something stupid or not is debatable

She did her job as required. Aplayer was down injured and the ref waived her on there was nothing else she could do at that point so blame the ref of her duty of care but dont blame her

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Funny old season

Klippety finding out quite quickly you can't polish a turd

Oh crap.

For the love of God ! ! Bogdan is terrible

Bloody hell Liverpool! 😀

Who needs Stevie G!

I stopped listening at that happens!

Cracking cracking game

Not sure if it was deserved or not but it was a breathtaking game

Not sure if it was deserved

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cockernee liverpool fans on 5live just now - wonder if the shouty one was Fred ? 😀

That was smart.
Grinning like a bag of chips.

Realy DD over two legs you think Liverpool were clearly the better side- there was very little between the two sides and either could have won it.

Still a great result for pool and a great game

Lol - I heard that too scardeypants. Fred will have self-combusted.

Quality game and outstanding result. Klop looked chuffed

Realy DD over two legs you think Liverpool were clearly the better side- there was very little between the two sides and either could have won it.

There was very little between them but Dortmund's manager said Liverpool deserved it so that will do me. 🙂

People may like to mock but you can't help feeling the famous Anfield atmosphere at European matches played a part in getting them through. As soon as it went to 2-3 you could sense Dortmund looking rattled and Liverpool looking like they were starting to believe.

In true scouse style, I've already heard the 'its our year' talk of this prophesying that they're definitely going to win the Premiership and the Champions League next season 😆