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did you hear the fan on talk sport with Stan Collymore?
Was he discussing dogging?
James Milner for nowt seems like good business
Agreed. Respect to him for wanting first team football rather than sitting on the sidelines of a potential championship team and the Champions League
Maybe free but reportedly on £200,000 a week. More than he was on at city. Seems a ridiculous amount for a player who's hardly a really top player.
It will be like another Glen Johnson signing. Couple of seasons he will look like a good signing but the last 2 will be neverending £200k per week for that???? Its near impossible to get someone like that off the books so you have to write it off even if they aren't good enough. That's £40m over 4yrs, wow!!
At least with Johnson off the books now it will be £100k per week towards Milners wages.
40m over 4 years total, 200k a week is probably bollocks to, what would he have cost on the open market?
seen a few news articles saying he'll be getting around 120k per week with a signing on fee included
Reports suggest that he was offered 165k at Manchester City but accepted a lower offer from Liverpool as he's more chance of games.
Good lad is James and he'll be worth his wage.
Milner is an underrated player, and has been underutilized by city and England, for England especially a lot of the work he puts in and the runs he makes have always been ignored by his team mates as they look to pass to the bigger names.
It was 165k at Citeh - and I doubt he has gone to Liverpool for much less ...
Less face it , Liverpool are very desperate ...
However he's a great buy for LFC and he will be a real loss for us as Citeh .....
It's not exactly an exciting signing though is it. You've lost Gerrard , and you're replacing him with Milner....
He's decent, but he wouldn't get in the teams of any of the clubs ahead of you. Arsenal wanted him as a squad player , LFC have clearly guaranteed him a starting place.
Milner? He's toilet. Really awful, over rated player.
I think he'll do well at Liverpool.
Jack of all trades master of none.
He will be on £200k+ a week with his signing on fee. He ain't taken a pay cut on what City were offering, lollerpool fans are deluded if they think he took a paycut to join them to play week in week out.
Can I just say, as a United fan, how happy I am that Rodgers is safe in his job. If he spends the same money as last time, for the same improvement in resulting form, you'll be 11th next season. If you're lucky
You're paying Milner 200k a week? Fantastic! He's definitely a 200k a week player. Like Andy Carrol was definitely a £35 million striker! 😆
United fans cannot laugh, look at some of the shit Ferguson bought, Bebe, veron, Anderson, Zaha.
We really can, you know. Looks like the comedy is set to continue. 2 words.... Mario Ballotelli 😆
He was ok when he played for us, had some good chants as he scored some good goals and we were able to laugh about him. Cannot even laugh about him at lollerpool as he isn't doing anything funny and is worse than Falcao LOL.
Does it really matter what he's being paid each week? 🙄
Honestly, you Liverpool haterz are behaving like Raheem Sterling! Given that Milner is a free transfer, is a hard working professional and undoubtedly easier to manage and motivate than the aforementioned and overrated kid, then IMO, Milner is a good free signing for 'Pool.
Sell Sterling to Rafa this summer and let the greedy and self-important youngster get found out and wanting, pocket the extortionate amount of moolah and look to the market for a goal scorer.
Haterz will always be haterz, but at least I've got Bob Paisley's autograph 😉
Yeah but Sterling is a decent player. You're seriously comparing Milner with him?
Yes 😀 Read my post. 😉
It seems to me that Rodgers offering Milner £200k per week is purely out of spite to Sterling, a bit like your ex girlfriend snogging a bloke in front of you at a party. You don't care, but it makes them feel like they're getting one over on you.
hard working professional and undoubtedly easier to manage and motivate than Sterling
Has football gone that mad, that supporters now consider these qualities are good value for around £10 million a year?
Can I just say, as a United fan,
Is that West Ham, Newcastle or Southend?
You're paying Milner 200k a week? Fantastic! He's definitely a 200k a week player. Like Andy Carrol was definitely a £35 million striker!
However he will be good value compared to Falcao, De Maria and Anderson. And Berbatov, and Rafael, and van Persie ....
I love ManYoo pitching in about other teams squandering money ....
All teams make mistakes with players and you cannot really attack a partisan post with an equally partisan post
Decent player and he is only a tiny bit below being a top top player.
He wont improve the team that much if at all IMHO
Is he worth the wage no but none of the EPL players are
However he will be good value compared to Falcao, De Maria and Anderson. And Berbatov, and Rafael, and van Persie ....
VP? Is that the same VP that pretty much won the Premiership single-handed?
Falcao, and after an initial flourish, De Maria, have been bloody awful. Falcoa particularly. But then we never actually bought him. He was on loan.
The bizarre, and less commented on thing about that is, that its got Ashley Young and Fellaini (both the much maligned Moyes purchases) playing really well towards the back end of the season, to keep them both (deservedly) out of the starting line-up. So every cloud....
Offering Milner 200k may indeed wind Sterling up, and god knows he deserves it, but it'll put a good few other money-obsessed noses out of joint too, I suspect
Ashley Young and Fellaini (both the much maligned Moyes purchases)
Ashley Young was bought a few years before Moyes wasn't he?
In fact I can definitely remember Fergie trying to keep a straight face while claiming he didn't dive on quite a few occasions.
True, but was generally maligned last season under Moyes, but was regularly putting in man of the match performances, while keeping Di Maria out of the squad
Milner is journeyman stodge IMO, solid but never going to be great - as is most of citeh's squad, and they really need to get some pace in their set-up and playing style
I think he'll be OK for Liverpool and citeh probably better balanced without (depending who comes in, of course)
Fellani is great if you play to his strength which is lump it up to the big man
He wants to be the new carrick- always says Def Mid is his best position- I remain unconvinced of him in this role
Young has been great this season as well
I think Milner is a decent signing , but the wages are pretty daft.Fair play to him.At least he tries.
Him and Henderson should give Coutiniho more freedom.
Hopefully Raheem will be a big success at utd. 😉
RVP won the league for Man U !
Teams need solid midfield players, Carrick (ex Spurs saldy they couldn't keep him). I mean look at Keane or Vierra hardly Zidanne or Messi where they but absolutely vital in their respective teams.
Milner will be a success and his signing is good business.
I haven't paid much attention to James Milner during his career, but if he does half the job that Hamman or Lucas did at their best then it'll be a worthwhile signing.
Milner is a brilliant signing for Liverpool. An international, signed on a free, who is a consistent performer at that level. He's a model pro and is a whole lot better than much of Liverpool's current squad. Is he has good as an on song Stirling? No, but he is better more often.
The question is this - will he be better this season than Gerrard was last season? Can't be too difficult, so jobs a goodun.
Falcoa particularly. But then we never actually bought him. He was on loan.
just the £13m on wages though 😉 - which is how this argument started 😆
And the loan fee that I believe was more then most teams pay to buy a player!
With Falcao wasn't the signing on fee 25 mill?
Not such a bargain ...
It could have been worse - you could have bought Malanga ....
Where do people get all this info on wages and signing on fees from?
I assume the clubs and players don't immediately tell the press as soon as they have inked a contract exactly how much they are on and how the payment is structured. If only so the rest of the players in the team don't immediately get the hum because player X is on 50% more than them.
I am pretty sure a lot of the high end numbers are A) wildly inaccurate and B) headline figures linked to various performance and playing bonuses.
FWIW as a Liverpool fan in think and hope the Milner signing will be a good one. Like all clubs we've made some stinkers in the past, only we can less afford expensive mistakes than Manyoo and the oil money plastics.
The thing is that United can afford to sign the likes of Falcoa, even if it doesn't work because they're a big club/title challengers/top four/champions league club.
Liverpool, despite perpetually gazing back to the long-since-over glory days, are a mid table club with delusions of mediocrity, who will be competing for position with Swansea, Stoke (6-1), and Crystal Palace
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Liverpool, despite perpetually gazing back to the long-since-over glory days, are a mid table club with delusions of mediocrity, who will be competing for position with Swansea, Stoke (6-1), and Crystal Palace
Like last year ?
Binners. The classic bitter Manc. Spends more time talking about Liverpool than his own team......
One off. While everyone else was in transition. If you note my prediction (earlier on this thread) at the start of the season. I said that normal service would be resumed, we'd be top four, Liverpool would be seventh (6th... Who cares) and at least 15 points behind Chelski.
I'll predict 7th again next season, at best, as Rodgers continues to go backwards, after spending the money from Stirling on another bunch of donkey's, and waaaaaaaay off the top four
Quite happy to take your money if you fancy putting it on a different outcome?
Mid-table club. With a top four delusion and wage structure
Edit: bitter? I'll be bitter if you won owt. Not much chance of that. I just think it's funny. The delusion! It's incredible(ly amusing) 😆
Liverpool are still a massive club and to claim otherwise is madness
They have not had the success they deserve but to compare them to those teams is just an attempt to rile their fans
Depending on who they buy they will still struggle to break into the top 4 as it is about money and they dont have as much as the others.
I think they will be 5th next season.
City may go backwards though and IMHO LvG is erratic and I am fence sitting about his brilliance. We did well because others were poor and almost never looked potent...one good month basically.
See that's how you do a credible post..... 🙂
5th? Woooohoooooo!!!! The Europa league!!!! With players on 200k a week?
Mid-table club. Stoke with delusions of grandeur
I'll stick with 7th. And Milner being their best player, after Rodgers signs another bunch of overpriced hoofers who fail to deliver. Again.
Thursday night. Channel 5. In Lithuania 😆
Probably best to save your gloating till we are in the CL proper
For this season, not having to fly to the Ukraine on a Thursday for a game to be shown on channel 5 will do 😀
I presume it's already been posted, but the [url= https://twitter.com/RAWK_Meltdown ]RAWK meltdown twitter account[/url] is well worth following (a selection of posts by Liverpool fans on the Red And White Kop forum)
I don't hold anything against any football club, but in my experience Liverpool seem to be have more than their fair share of delusional fans.. couple of genuine quotes from two diff fans in the pub last weekend..
"No disrespect but Liverpool are probably the biggest club in the world, and deserve to be winning the league every year."
"Liverpool have the best fans in the world, far more devoted than any other club."
As a City fan I am sad to see Jimmy go. He did a great job for us and had games where he really starred to belie his workmanlike image (Bayern away a couple of years ago springs to mind).
In some ways I admire his conviction that he would rather play in his favoured position (central midfield) for a second tier team than play for one of the top sides in the country.
He will be missed at City and I just hope that we replace him with someone with a similar attitude and commitment.
Good luck Jimmy - hope you do not live to regret it!
Man utd have gone for LvG who rightly so has a proven track record in world football and will continue to do so ,Liverpool have gone for Rodgers who done nothing at Swansea apart continue Martinez's philosophy and get sacked at Reading for a run of poor results ....Suarez made Liverpool that season nothing else .... Rodgers should of done the honourable thing after this third season ,like he said judge me after 3 seasons ....
Agree with binners (manc bugger! ) got it all spot on
Rodgers quote after the Stoke game was pretty funny/deluded..
"I have always said if the owners want me to go I will go."
Seems to be implying that he thinks his bosses can't sack him, instead he'll generously decide to walk..
Which Liverpool players are on £200k? I'd hazard a guess at none of them.
This thread has gone from a reasonably sensible discussion to a parody of a tabloid comments section. United fans are always more interested in Liverpool than their own club 😛
You just keep telling yourself that. We're actually more interested in watching a team that wins stuff, or at least is there or there-abouts - with an admittedly indulgent side-line in watching a team that used to win stuff, a long long time ago, and bizarrely thinks it has some God-given right to do so, while at the same time being consistently shite*
Mid-table club. Still a mid-table club no matter how much you pay James Milner. 7th at best next season. Possibly 11th if Newcastle get a decent manager, and Stoke have a bit of a run 😆
* tonked by Villa and Palace, then getting utterly gubbed by Stoke 5 nil by half time
Danny Ings [url= http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33046003 ]signed[/url]
Couple of not bad signings. Keep signing that quality of player and next season could be the season. 😉 How funny would it be if Liverpool won the league the season after Gerrard left the club. 😀
I presume it's already been posted, but the RAWK meltdown twitter account is well worth following (a selection of posts by Liverpool fans on the Red And White Kop forum)
Thanks, that's killing a boring evening in the office, so funny.
My worry with Ings is that he's basically a 2nd tier striker at best. He's going to bring you a few goals... but only that.... He's a Borini/Lambert, not a Suarez.... I must admit, it's a bit of an underwhelming signing that
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Recently Man U have won what exactly ? 😉
Must get your voucher organised, will use you email address here.
I think Rodgers got confused with the planned
"we want signings" was the banner
not
"we want sign Ings"
Liverpool face Stoke, Arsenal, Manchester United, Everton, Tottenham, Chelsea and Manchester City in their first seven Premier League away games and the bookies have Rodgers as the favourite to be the first top-flight manager to leave his post.
*wanders to the bookies to see the odds of Liverpool being bottom of the table at the end of the first week, with a goal difference of -5*
😆
Tough start for them.
My seat neigbour at work (very big Liverpool fan) just made a similarly negative comment binners. Rodgers will be sharpening his excuses already.
First match at the Britannia? You can bet your life Sparky will be looking to start the season the same way he finished the last. They'll be well up for it! Liverpool could start the season with an absolute battering! Worryingly that battering could also represent their easiest game out of the next 7 😀
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Falcao for Chelski? What odds on him ripping up the Man U defence?.
66deg - because its funny 😆
Might have another punt on Falcoa being the highest scorer in the premiership next season too.
2 injury prone 30 goals per season hot-heads. the special one will make that work.
he’s looking at the bigger picture of europe not just trying to be in the top 5 and be the biggest team in the city. 😉
It's harsh of Stoke to enforce the follow on.
I will be amazed if Falcoa has a radical transformation into world beater and Chelsea have a reputation of doing this with strikers see also Shevchenko, Torres etc
he looked pretty poor tbh though he was once world class
He'll only be a back up to Costa anyway, like Drogba was this season.
Are Liverpool the new Newcastle? Over excited fans and under performing team.
JY Torres and Shevchenko where Abramovich buys, do we think he's still calling the transfer shots ? My guess is Morinho insisted he runs the transfers so if Falcoa is going there it will be his doing. It could all be a bluff mind to try and get ManU to pay up.
Are Liverpool the new Newcastle? Over excited fans and under performing team.
Newcastle fans are at least realistic, if giddy. Liverpool fans live in cloud cockoo-land. They're a mid-table team, with delusions of mediocrity, who might sneak into the top four once every 6 or 7 years, if everyone else has a really bad season.
they are an arsenal but without the cup wins, nice stadium or charismatic manager.
they have ‘history’ though which as every kopite knows is more important than winning the premiership.
Just seen that Man City are offering £35.5M or Raheem, and Liverpool are expected to turn it down!? £35 million?!!!?? Take it and run!
They value him at 50 million. See what I mean about cloud-cuckoo-land?
I know I'm going to regret this but what did mufc actually win last season? And if Liverpool were 'tonked' by Villa and Stoke how does that compare to what Everton and Wimbledon did to MUFC...
Hang on.... we've got one!!!!
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Would you like to talk about just those 4 specific games? Or can we widen the remit a bit?