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Balotteli is not a lone striker, he was never bought to be the lone striker and he looked like he was trying to me in the game. He would have scored against another keeper as well IMHO.

You need to see what he and Sturridge can do together

Its harsh top blame him for being crap at a role he was not bought to do and we all know he cannot do

We may as well sell Ashley Young because he he is not a left back.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:10 am
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Ballotelli though, god he HAS to be sold in a few weeks time.

This was the bizarre one. Rodgers must have occasionally glanced a few miles up the road and seen what a wasteful liability he'd turned into at City? Not to mention his pisspoor return to Italy.

God knows what he's actually worth now.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:11 am
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I'm not saying he's at fault as a player, he can only give what he's got...

But for the life of me he's not the right player to resolve any issues the team currently have.

Sure, i accept if you give him the ball in the right place then it would end in the net.. but he's not getting in the right place as well as them not giving it to him if he ever does.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:19 am
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Rodgers must have occasionally glanced a few miles up the road and seen what a wasteful liability he'd turned into at City? Not to mention his pisspoor return to Italy.

I suspect every manager dreams of being the person who "tames" someone like Balotelli and helps him realise his potential.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:20 am
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I suspect every manager dreams of being the person who "tames" someone like Balotelli and helps him realise his potential

Agreed, Brendan is famed in his own head for this, the ability to get the most out of average players... But it just seems as though he's totally failed with that with Ballo.


 
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It does make me wonder what Fabio Borini has done to be excluded when Balotelli and Lambert haven't been exactly firing on all cylinders - I know he turned down a move to Sunderland at the weekend but seems a bit of a daft move to play without a striker when you have one available.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:31 am
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I think it's very amusing.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 10:48 am
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I feel a bit sorry for Rodgers....last year he had Sterling and Sturridge playing fantastically, plus the enigma that is 'The Cannibal' scoring continually. This year not only have they lost two out of three, but Sterling has lost all ability (for England too.) He's nothing like the player he was a year ago....perhaps the WC did his confidence and he's never recovered?

Funny how so many fast flair players don't last the pace so to speak, I can think of loads over the years who are on fire for a few years and then just disappear.


 
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Funny how so many fast flair players don't last the pace so to speak, I can think of loads over the years who are on fire for a few years and then just disappear.

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Posted : 16/12/2014 11:15 am
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Does he really have Hora's name tattooed on his arm?


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 11:16 am
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on fire for a few years and then just disappear....[i]and then reappear[/i]

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Posted : 16/12/2014 11:17 am
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Nigel Adkins is available if you want him 😀


 
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How about....

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Posted : 16/12/2014 11:25 am
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You know a manger has lost it when he changes the keeper for a big match and not to someone promising and up and coming, but to a guy who has a dreadful track record. Brad Jones' keeping at the weekend was so dodgy I half expect he was paid off to chuck the match.

Liverpool's problem is they were setup to score more goals than the opposition, now they can't do that they are in big, big trouble. Coupled with the fact that Gerrard is seriously awful this year.

Although personally I hate these modern formations of 4-3-3 or 5-3-3, they are just asking for problems, all the attacking players cutting inside getting in others way, while offering the defence little cover. Repeatedly on the radio it was mentioned that Moreno was caught upfield and Joe Allen was having to come across to cover, makes no sense to me. Defenders are there to defend first and attack second, if you are a rarity and can do both well e.g. Ashley Cole, then feel free to consider yourself world class.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 11:30 am
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Suarez was in my opinion the best forward I have seen play in the British top flight and I was lucky enough to be around to see Best, Law,Gaiscogne,Greaves, Shearer, Dalglish, Henry etc etc. He was and probably still is a flawed genius, at times nasty, warped and delusional but his speed of thought, reading of a game, movement on and off the ball and yes, his total win at all costs marked him out as being extraordinary and Liverpool were never ever going to be able to hold on to him.

Where Liverpool screwed up is what they did with the Suarez money.You really would have thought they would have learnt a hard lesson when they blew the Torres money but it appears not because the recent signings are simply not working as a unit.

David Moyes has his critics and as a life long Everton fan I was never thrilled by his overwhelming desire not lose a game, that negative mindset made him a square peg in round Old Trafford hole. That said I cannot think of a premiership manager who has come close to being so good at buying real talent for buttons (yes I know Utd overpaid for Fellani and Mata but my gut feel is that Woodward was responsible for that in the same way Utd overpaid for Shaw without Moyes) Arsene Wegner in his early years was good but that refusal to spend big has been hurting Arsenal badly over the past 5 years.

Off the top of my head Moyes bad buys were Bilyaletdinov, Richard Wright, Andy Van Meyde,Per Koldrup and James Beattie.The total for that lot was £26m which is not bad for ten years in charge, the upside is simply to long too list but recent gems have been Seamus Coleman £60k and John Stones £3m.

Having money means nothing unless you spend it wisely and none of the top English clubs comes remotely close to winning that accolade, the difference is though some of them can afford it and some of them win a trophy or two through spending big. All in all pretty depressing and indicative of a sport that is now a global industry and the play thing of the uber rich 😥


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 11:55 am
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Nigel Adkins is available if you want him

...and Pulis is always available. Does a good job in saving clubs from relegation.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 12:07 pm
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Bournemouth await.....

They're good, but they're no MK Dons 😉


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 12:12 pm
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Where Liverpool screwed up is what they did with the Suarez money

[i]See also, Tottenham Hotspurs/Gareth Bale.[/i]


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 12:14 pm
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The risks of buying talent I guess but it is £30 + million cheaper than class.

Not sure Di maria nor Falcao can be considered a success and they would be what 60 and 45 [ if we buy him]


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 12:27 pm
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Off the top of my head Moyes bad buys were Bilyaletdinov, Richard Wright, Andy Van Meyde,Per Koldrup and James Beattie.The total for that lot was £26m which is not bad for ten years in charge, the upside is simply to long too list but recent gems have been Seamus Coleman £60k and John Stones £3m.
It's Sylvain Distin's 37th birthday today, speaking of canny Moyes buys. An imperious defender in his prime, and some athlete, still has his legs. Is making more mistakes these days, but asking an old time defender to change the way they play, like Martinez has done, is always going to be tough.


 
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Bournemouth await.....

They're good, but they're no MK Dons

We are in form, top of the Championship, at home and have nothing to lose. However if Liverpool lose it is a crushing blow.

I imagine BR is bricking it 😀


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 1:15 pm
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+1 on Distin, top pro and a great buy at £4m. The whole Everton defense of Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka & Coleman cost £17.06m 😀 Thats less than Liverpool paid for Lovren and obviously less than Utd paid us for the big Fella.

Evertons net transfer spend since them Prem started is £58m, Liverpools is an astonishing £322m, Utd's £408m, Chelsea £650m, City £595m, Arsenal £116.5m (see my earlier comment)and finally Spurs £165.5.

Along with my fellow blues our question to Bill Kenwright is simple, wheres all our money gone Bill since you got your "luvvy dovey" hands on our once great club ?

Its only over paying for Lukaku that pushed it over £40m, prior that we were circa £38m Newcastle net number is over £100m and West Hams is £54.5 but I cannot remember if they have been in the Prem every year since it started ?

ps I say astonishing re Liverpool because the net transfer number was roughly the same as Utd's until Van Gaal and Woodward starting throwing money around and Utds income has always been vastly greater than Liverpools.


 
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Along with my fellow blues our question to Bill Kenwright is simple, wheres all our money gone Bill since you got your "luvvy dovey" hands on our once great club ?

Blue Bill seems a lot more incompetent than malicious, to me. He is an actor, though, so it could all be a devious facade.
Think I've put more money into Everton than Bill has, tbh.


 
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I love the idea that a club owner automatically has to be parted with vast quantities of his own dosh in order to satisfy the expectations of fans (which have been grossly skewed by clubs like City, Chelsea etc).

As far as I can see, Kenwright (and Moyes) hasn't done a bad job. Everton have kept themselves firmly in the top division with relatively little outlay on players. No, they're not going to win it, but they probably wouldn't win if if they bought a couple of £30m players.


 
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INdeed its hard to think of a better chair in terms of living wiht in your means, achievement for £ spent and not selling the club to anyone just for the money and still they are not happy and think he is shit.
Lovely fella, loves the club and he has done the right thing by the club.
Seems to both love the club and be competent. Two on most chairs of football clubs.


 
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What Jamie says. Both clubs have shown that one £80m player is worth more than 4 £20m ones


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 4:35 pm
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Your entitled to your views and I and all the other long standing blues are entitled to ours. There exists a large number of Everton fans who want to believe Billy boy but as always action speaks louder than words.

Bill would have anyone who listens believe he and his backers (Robert Earl et all)spend every waking hour trying to find an investor to fund a new stadium and a bigger better squad.

The facts are clear, since Bill took over Everton in 1999 the Premier League has gone through the roof from a value perspective and yet according to Bill no one has made a firm offer for Everton whilst nearly every premier club I can think of has had a change of ownership in the past 10 years. That fact leaves us all only two options to consider, 1) Bill and his mates are completely and utterly clueless to the point of being incompetent 2) Bill is not telling the truth and there have been one or more firm offers however Bill and mates have turned them down seeking a larger payoff.

Now before I'm burnt at the stake, I will make it clear I would rather have Bill and his mates than the Glaziers or the Fenway group,Vincent Tan and a whole cast of other premier league rouges but where Bill is concerned you need to read between his luvvy press lines.

Anyway enough of Everton, this is a Liverpool thread and I am handing it back to you long suffering Kopites and your legion of detractors.


 
Posted : 16/12/2014 5:26 pm
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Suarez was in my opinion the best forward I have seen play in the British top flight

That is some statement - unless you are a Norwich fan 😀

Not saying that he was a bad player but he did not always do it in big games. I think Aguero is better of current players and this would be more widely recognised if he could just stay fit.

Henry was the best of the modern era imo.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 12:51 am
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It will be interesting to see what impact Suarez has at Barca, I guess its the Barca move that will determine how football remembers Suarez in the future.As for Henry he was outstanding but I am still happy with my view that Suarez was the best I've seen across a season, the trick is to maintain or improve on that performance.


 
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It will be interesting to see what impact Suarez has at Barca

So far he's looked ordinary but then he was [s]probably[/s] Liverpool's best player and stood out as such.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:44 am
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Is that the sound of a corner being turned?

Bournemouth are doing their bit by missing several sitters, tho.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:15 pm
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probably more of awaits Bournemouth if they go go up,


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:18 pm
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How many passes before the sterling goal! Sorry, on catch up hence about 30 mins behind.


 
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This is not the Bmth I know. Nervous and star struck methinks. We have missed two sitters. Seems like LFC have found their level.

Next goal is crucial


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:51 pm
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Sterling has pulled a reverse Torres.

Cut his hair, and got better.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:54 pm
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Well that's that


 
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So Sterling can score. Whodathunkit.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 8:55 pm
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Surely not....


 
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😯


 
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Suarez was in my opinion the best forward I have seen play in the British top flight
That is some statement - unless you are a Norwich fan

There were occasional bits of play last year where he honestly seemed to do that bollocks that one of the Italians went on about after a world cup (was it Scillachi ?), where he found underground passages to get to the point where he scored the goal.

Or: his movement off the ball was sometimes absolutely bloody brilliant


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 9:01 pm
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...trying to avoid spoilers.

Bournemouth should really be doing better. If this ends like it is now, it will not be fair indication of how the game went.


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 9:12 pm
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Were we watching different games?


 
Posted : 17/12/2014 9:38 pm
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Were we watching different games?

I think I must have been watching a different game from Brenda yesterday, judging from his post match comments

[i]"We played better and dominated more than we did last year when we won 5-1. We had that intensity and pressing in our game but we are very disappointed with the goals we conceded.

"We were brilliant but we need to make better decisions defensively.[/i]

[i]"Can we now challenge for the top four? Yes. Absolutely."[/i]

Brilliant? They were just slightly less awful than an Arsenal team who never even turned up! And the result said they weren't even that! 😆


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 11:49 am
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He does seem to be living in a parallel universe at the moment.


 
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The shadow of Klinsmann??

Good header for the equaliser though but must have been frustrating to watch.


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 12:38 pm
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There was literally no winners in the LFCvAFC match.

Shower of shite all round.


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 12:41 pm
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Liverpool is a parallel universe in general- I was there last week
In football terms for a Scouser its 1984 and they are still European champions

Brendan does seem to have Olympic levels of positivity.


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 12:42 pm
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Brendan does seem to have Olympic levels of [s]positivity[/s] self delusion.

FTFY 😉

He was going on about how many 'shots' they'd had. Shots? Spooning something into Row Z, from 30 yards out, isn't really a 'shot' is it Brenda?

It was an absolutely bloody awful game to watch!!


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 12:58 pm
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Not seen any of the footie over the weekend so cannot comment


 
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There was literally no winners in the LFCvAFC match.

Shower of shite all round.


That's a bit harsh, quite entertaining and Liverpool's first goal was well taken.


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 1:16 pm
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Entertaining? Compared to what? Apart from the Liverpool 'strikers' who were obviously having a festive bet to see if someone could get the ball into the top tier.....


 
Posted : 22/12/2014 1:20 pm
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Its ok Binners him disagreeing with you is proof that your description was correct


 
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That's a bit harsh, quite entertaining and Liverpool's first goal was well taken.

Unless Apple were sponsoring the match, I can see no way you saw this as a good match.


 
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Gerrard confirms he's moving on. Wonderful player, I still feel a sadness they didn't win the title last year and as has been written on that he will undoubtedly blame himself for "the slip" but truth is the title slipped form their grasp elsewhere.

Whilst posting on football I have to say - Come on You Spurs - Five past Mr Defensive 😀


 
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Berahino pissed off for starting for WBA today meaning he is cup tied .To LFC for 23m ... Thoughts?


 
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I thought Henderson missing the last 3 games was a more important factor than the infamous slip.


 
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I think Berahino would be a good signing for LFC as he is likely to get playing time unlike if he signed for Chelsea, City, Arsenal etc.


 
Posted : 04/01/2015 3:55 pm
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Arse.


 
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Never in doubt! Liverpool were playing with ten until Joe Allen went off - what does he actually contribute?


 
Posted : 04/02/2015 9:32 pm
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Very little SB, very little. How he gets a shirt is beyond me.

Happy days, right result.

Night all!


 
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I'm sat with a very disgruntled, Bolton supporting Mrs Binners. Fair play... 2 great finishes though.

Bolton looked good though. You're always going to get a game off a Neil Lennon side.

I'm presently getting a comparative run down of the best Bolton sides. The two Kevs rattling people's legs from underneath them.....


 
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It's not just me then. He's just anonymous!


 
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Anonymous is a funny way of spelling crap.


 
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two cracking goals

Big miss on the header from the icelandic guy whose name i cannot spell


 
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Excellent


 
Posted : 20/04/2015 4:30 pm
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Oh Dear..


 
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Rodgers out.


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 4:14 pm
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Paging Herr Klopp.....


 
Posted : 24/05/2015 4:37 pm
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or Signore Ancelotti...


 
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Ancelotti has stated he is taking 12 months out to have back surgery and recover. Klopp has stated he is taking 6 months out before looking at possible offers.


 
Posted : 26/05/2015 11:21 am
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Bring back King Kenny!!!!

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Big Sam or The Wally with the Brolly are available


 
Posted : 26/05/2015 11:22 am
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Benitez off to Real Madrid 😯


 
Posted : 26/05/2015 11:26 am
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He can't be. I've been assured by various scousers that he'd soon be back at Anfield to [s]saddle them with a load more expensive donkeys[/s] lead them once more to Champions League glory 😆


 
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Benitez, very popular with me as he made Chelsea look inept in the CL 🙂 I'd love to see him at Real.

Not much of a sign off for Gerard, losses to Crystal Palace and Stoke and shipped in 6 !

Spurs finished 5th and Liverpool are only 2 points behind. Liverpool (fans?) are in grave danger of assuming they could repeat a title challenge without Suarez. Yes, the team under Rogers has struggled but 6th is really not too bad particularly without a decent season from any striker.


 
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It was nice of Rodgers to concede that he'd leave if the owners wanted him to. I mean, he wouldn't have a choice, but...


 
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It was nice of Rodgers to concede that he'd leave if the owners wanted him to. I mean, he wouldn't have a choice, but...

he wont resign...he'll wait until he gets the sack so he can get his payoff!!


 
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Liverpool (fans?) are in grave danger of assuming they could repeat a title challenge without Suarez.

I'm sure there will be some deluded fans. All clubs have them after all. But I'm sure no realistic Liverpool fan would think Liverpool could mount a title challenge without spending around £793 million (spending it astutely that is 😆 ).


 
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