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I always get accused of only gloating about Man United's woes on here, so here's a positive one (is there a football thread somewhere I've missed?).
Pretty amazing to see Liverpool on top at this stage of the season, especially playing such pretty football. City must surely still be favourites but.... crikey....
I'm enjoying seeing Liverpool do well. As a Leeds fan, its yet another season of misery for us lot but I have a lot of time for Brendan Rogers. Like him and his style of football at Swansea...
YNWA!
Nice to see someone different at the top.
Next game will be tough - doubt the ball will be on the deck much as West Ham launch it up to Carroll. And he (and Downing) may have a little extra motivation too....
There's a little man in the east end who'll be a very happy fayn!
Quite a few neutrals seem to be routing for Liverpool, which is nice. They still have a lot to do to win it but whatever happens it's been an amazing season.
Refreshing to see the way they played today - the Sunderland game was edgy and it looked like they were tightening up but they came out all guns blazing today.
I hope no one will mind me expressing that I experienced massive amounts of schadenfreude at Terry's expressions after his own goal and at the end of the game. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy. 😀
Yeah great that the racist cannibal suarez might sour the league by actually getting a winners medal
I'm a Man U fan and if we can't win (!) I want Liverpool to win so it ain't just neutrals... At the minute they're a pleasure to watch.
But Tottenham were absolutely awful ... the defence didn't even turn up
nora, you and he have a lot in common. Only thing is, he's shown he's not beyond rehabilitation.
We won't win it. But we barely expected to be in the top 4 this year. But at least CL will allow us to attract 'top top' players, had loads of snubs from players who went elsewhere for CL action in the last couple of seasons.
Leeds fan here and I would like to see Gerrard win it, he is a grafter and has had personal problems but is a bloody good footballer Suarez has his faults but there is no better striker in the premier league. And all those Man U fans remember Giggs is a good footballer but he still shagged his brothers wife
6 English players in the starting line up yesterday as well. Pretty rare these days.
Was it 18 months ago when people were saying "Brendan who?"
Then after a poor run, calling for him to be sacked.
Maybe Moyes will get the same results next year, and be lauded as a great manager rather than the abuse he gets from some quarters now.
We won't win it. But we barely expected to be in the top 4 this year. But at least CL will allow us to attract 'top top' players, had loads of snubs from players who went elsewhere for CL action in the last couple of seasons.
I know it's just being realistic, but the competition is devalued by this attitude - whereby "top four" and the prospect of Champions League £ - is seen as an end in itself and pretty much as good as winning the league.
Liverpool will never have a better chance than this year, when they, alone among the big clubs, have not had the distraction of a European campaign.
They've been great to watch this year. I know they're hardly a cuddly little local club themselves but it will be good to see the oiligarch's playthings thwarted by them, if they do go on to win the league.
They've been great to watch this year. I know they're hardly a cuddly little local club themselves but it will be good to see the oiligarch's playthings thwarted by them, if they do go on to win the league
Strange how some like to differentiate between clubs owned by Russian billionaires, oil sheikh billionaires, and American billionaires.
I know it's just being realistic, but the competition is devalued by this attitude - whereby "top four" and the prospect of Champions League £ - is seen as an end in itself and pretty much as good as winning the league.
My point being that being in the CL gives a great platform to build on, with increased revenue and the ability to attract the best players comes a realistic ambition of winning and challenging for the league every year. The hardest step was/is getting back into the CL in the first place. Liverpool and Utd have a British and global fanbase way ahead of other English clubs and our inability to attract top echelon players whilst not in CL illustrates how the football landscape has changed these days with players opting for big pay packets and CL rather than playing for the biggest clubs.
Double post.
Strange how some like to differentiate between clubs owned by Russian billionaires, oil sheikh billionaires, and American billionaires.
There are plenty of differences in how the three clubs (assuming the other two are City and Chelsea) are run - financially as well as the reach of the owners' vanities.
The main difference seems to be the vanity of fans trying to convince themselves there is something special and deserving about themselves and their club.
There must be something in the water at the other end of the M62, as Everton are playing the same type of attractive attacking football too. Its certainly going to make the run in to the end of the season pretty interesting. You'd be a brave man to put any money on the top 4, in what order. Theres been some cracking football played this season!
Highlight of the weekend was John Terry's superb own goal though 😀
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Whatever the outcome, it's been a remarkable 12 months for Liverpool, going from a team who struggled to score for the last several years to being the side you now expect to score 3+ every time they walk onto the pitch. Happily it is all of the side though that are producing the results, not just the great and quite frankly ridiculously talented Suarez.
The other brilliant thing from yesterday was the atmosphere. So many times you hear the away fans being by far the loudest at games, but yesterday the whole of Anfield seemed to be joining in the fun, it's been a long time since the days of that i can tell you.
Will they win it... i don't know you know... i still see holes in the defence that someone like City can absolutely cut through with ease, i see issues with Aggers pace, i see Skrtle as sometimes a liability (although he's been exceptional recently), i see Allen as an incomplete player and Henderson as still the unfinished article.
Flanno was bloody astounding yesterday, not just his tackling, but his positional play, composure and also his disribution.... fantastic perfornace from the youngster
Lets see where the next few weeks take us... it's a hell of a ride at the moment.
As a city fan, it's certainly squeaky bum time, even with the games in hand. If Liverpool win all their remaining games, it's their title, which is definitely not something you could bet against with any confidence, the way they're playing.
Brilliant to have a do or die fixture coming up at Anfield, it's been a great season.
The main difference seems to be...
I wouldn't say that's the [i]main[/i] difference between them to be fair. I don't hear much of this from fans to be honest, but I guess if you really [i]want[/i] to see that, you will. Anyway, I don't think I'll be changing your mind, nor do I want to, so I'm leaving it there.
Brilliant to have a do or die fixture coming up at Anfield, it's been a great season.
This. It's dreamland for Liverpool fans for the team to have it in its own hands with six to play. I can't see them getting six points from the Chelsea and City games though...but that's just twenty something years of pessimism. 😀
Will they win it... i don't know you know... i still see holes in the defence that someone like City can absolutely cut through with ease, i see issues with Aggers pace, i see Skrtle as sometimes a liability (although he's been exceptional recently), i see Allen as an incomplete player and Henderson as still the unfinished article.
I think Ageuro's injury may be the key to who wins, if he is back for the rest of the season I think it will go to city. It is funny to say about a team with so much talent throughout, but the are 2 or 3 players who when aren't there seem to have a physiological impact on the whole team, there still seams to be a mental fragility to city.
Where as realistically, looking at the teams on paper, apart from Suarez who is undoubtedly in the top 3 players in the world at the moment, Liverpool seams a much weaker team, yet they are just playing with such confidence and belief, you look at the remaining games and see them winning them all. Suarez is key, but I still think if they lost him for a game or 2 they could still win them all. They still play with the same intent when he is not there.
I can't even see City feeling comfortable going to Anfield at the moment Bravissimo. Theres a pony-tailed weak link right in the middle of their defence that Suarez and Sturridge could terrorise.
You may do alright against Chelsea though. Everyone must surely be looking forward to the return of the last striker that was as prolific as Suarez, who now couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo
Chelsea are going backwards, and City are still vulnerable away from home. And Liverpool are just getting better and better.
Too close to call. I hope Pellegrini doesn't play for the draw, but this doesn't seem to be his style. Could be 4-3!
I don't hear much of this from fans to be honest, but I guess if you really want to see that, you will. Anyway, I don't think I'll be changing your mind, nor do I want to, so I'm leaving it there.
It is in every thread about football, you may want to pretend it is not, but my first post here was a [b]reply[/b] to such a comment.
MSP - MemberThey've been great to watch this year. I know they're hardly a cuddly little local club themselves but it will be good to see the oiligarch's playthings thwarted by them, if they do go on to win the league
Strange how some like to differentiate between clubs owned by Russian billionaires, oil sheikh billionaires, and American billionaires.
I know - but it feels as if Liverpool, even allowing for the Andy Carroll/Sewart Downing madness, have had [i]a wee bit[/i] less money chucked at them than the other two.
Gerrard is only one yellow away from a 2 match suspension too. Hope he behaves at West Ham (and that they win there too.) 🙂
You may do alright against Chelsea though. Everyone must surely be looking forward to the return of the last striker that was as prolific as Suarez, who now couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo
If Chelsea use the same tactic they did (successfully) against city, they'll park the bus at Anfield. Hopefully they'll still be in the mix and need the points as much if not more than Liverpool.
they'll park the bus at Anfield
True. The only hope against that tactic is that Liverpool run at defences with such pace, that they end up winning lots of free kicks, penalties, opposition players carded, especially at home. Hopefully Coutinho will play the full game for that one - he's been perhaps the best recent signing at Liverpool (outside the SAS partnership).
Maybe Moyes will get the same results next year, and be lauded as a great manager rather than the abuse he gets from some quarters now.
Nah, he's doing a great job at the moment. Long may it continue!
And all those Man U fans remember Giggs is a good footballer but he still shagged his brothers wife
And Gerrard punched a DJ for no apparent reason.
Give over will you. Cantona assaulted a fan, Keane broke a player's leg on purpose ending his career, Rooney shagged a granny. This could go on forever. They are footballers. Some of them do very silly things sometimes. We aren't talking about that. We are talking about how well Liverpool are playing at the moment.
For me watching my team playing so well is fantastic. Even when we concede we create so many chances going forward you are confident of winning. I hope we can win the title but whatever happens it's been a fantastic season. Genuine optimism for Liverpool fans at last!
Why is this thread turning into what footballer did what? They are people that entertain on a football pitch and get paid crazy money and most end up living in big houses and are divorced from a normal life,of course some of them are going to be idiots with that lifestyle.Just enjoy the game for what it is,none of us are perfect are we :-).And Swansea will beat Chelsea to do Liverpool a favour 🙂
Give over will you. Cantona assaulted a fan, Keane broke a player's leg on purpose ending his career, Rooney shagged a granny. This could go on forever. They are footballers. Some of them do very silly things sometimes. We aren't talking about that. We are talking about how well Liverpool are playing at the moment.
Oh, I agree. I just point out that it was unwise to suggest that Liverpool have some kind of moral superiority over Man U.
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Ok, that was funny.
Oh, I agree. I just point out that it was unwise to suggest that Liverpool have some kind of moral superiority over Man U.
Lucky no-one did that then eh?
I do think it's fair to say that both Liverpool and Man U have a [i]slightly[/i] more respectable pedigree in terms of having achieved a great deal of their success without a foreign oligarch sugar daddy.
Just enjoy the game for what it is,none of us are perfect are we 🙂
Yup - unless all fans start doing some kind of moral audit of all their club's players then I think they can STFU moaning about Suarez being a bitey racist. Just enjoy the ridiculously good football he is playing.
liverpool six games from being unbearable again
Bring on the unbearableness 😀
Looking good for the Pool for sure
I guess it just a nerves/squeaky bum time
I cannot see many teams stopping them scoring
With the Sunderland game I thought the pressure was getting to them and I really suspected they might slip up against Spurs. I was very wrong though!
Mrs Binners noted, as the camera panned to a close up of Flannaghan yesterday, that since Peter Beardsley retired football really has been deprived of a proper bit of eye candy 😀
In seasons past Liverpool would have conceded at the end against sunderland and thrown away two points,in fact they were a bit lucky at the end they didn't.But then a bit of luck and not drawing at home against teams they should beat on paper is sometimes the difference between champions and just top four,should be an interesting end of season.
Mrs Binners noted, as the camera panned to a close up of Flannaghan yesterday, that since Peter Beardsley retired football really has been deprived of a proper bit of eye candy
Ok so he's not Mrs Binners type but i bet you got a low down tingle .
Jokes aside not only is Mrs Binners right if you listen to to one of his interviews it makes your ears bleed and melts the brain.
Oooooh that wasn't the performance we know and love...
The result was though 🙂
Massive game next Sunday now! Could be anyone's this! (Apart from ours, obviously) You'd still be mad to put any money on the top four. Everton looked bloody good this afternoon too. Totally outplayed arsenal from start to finish.
Everton played really well yes . I think if the beat Wenger to 4th he could be on his way out.
Sunday is Liverpool's biggest game for many many years.
Bloody hell Liverpool!
I think if the beat Wenger to 4th he could be on his way out.
I think the FA Cup has more significance on Wenger leaving. Although, as shown below, I think the end result is inevitable, it's just how he gets there.
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2. Get knocked out/lose the FA Cup. He will probably call it a day, and go read Japanese poetry under a hedge for a bit.
As an aside, as an Arsenal fan, I really don't begrudge Everton getting into the CL instead of us. Might be tricky if there loan players get recalled, tho. As Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barry kind of put them in a false position in relation to their strength of squad.
The real dark horse of the race!
I keep seeing the results when I get up and I was surprised to see Everton winning, saw the goals and it was a bad day for Arsenal. The fun and games in Salford may keep Wenger in the job until he wants to go though.
I'd like to have seen Arsenal take it this year but things just seem to have fallen apart for them. After that Liverpool to win just to piss off the others up there is good enough.
At least there is something to watch for as a Newcastle fan, there might even be a trophy at St James this year (when they give it to Liverpool) but having 3 teams in it with 5 games to go is the best thing that could happen to the league. Much better than us not being content with 9th and battling hard for 10th.
that since Peter Beardsley retired football really has been deprived of a proper bit of eye candy
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Might be tricky if there loan players get recalled, tho. As Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barry kind of put them in a false position in relation to their strength of squad.
Aye Everton have some real issues next season if they do get CL
Squad too small and lacks quality in depth and their best players are not theirs- would they have enough money to invest? Could they get good enough players?
Wengers interview seemed rather resigned almost like he feels like everyone else does - you wont win anything that way, Wenger where is the steel in the team?
Been unlucky with injuries to be fair
I think he will go as well tbh.
What happened to him ? The early teams did not do ticca-tacca they had steel in midfield and pace out wide
What happened to him ? The early teams did not do ticca-tacca they had steel in midfield and pace out wide
If he still had the equivalent of Patrick Viera then that would be an option. There really aren't that many midfielders of that type and quality around any more, sadly.
He still has pace out wide, but if you can't draw players in the middle to counter your 'steel', or beat people outright in centrefield, they won't have space to run at folk.
As a City fan, starting to brick myself about Anfield. Such an exciting season, stuff still going on at all parts of the table.
If he still had the equivalent of Patrick Viera then that would be an option. There really aren't that many midfielders of that type and quality around any more, sadly.
This. He never replaced the Patrick Viera/Gilberto Silva types.
The fact Patrick Viera made it known, he would have liked to come back to Arsenal and be on the staff, like he is now at Man City, pisses me off no end.
The biggest problem with Arsenal, is that it's a very well run business. As long as this continues, what happens on the pitch seems secondary.
There are enough players out there it is just that he likes to buy the other kind of midfielder- Carzola, Ozil....the list goes one.
They may not be as good as Vierra - few are- but even Barry would improve their steel.
Did i just say that
Perhaps financial stability is more important than winning but I always thought he had money and he never spent it
Oh and some decent strikers would help no end as well.
Aye Everton have some real issues next season if they do get CL
Squad too small and lacks quality in depth and their best players are not theirs- would they have enough money to invest? Could they get good enough players?
Yep, not easy, but I did see an interview w Roberto Martinez where he said that clubs are very happy to loan him players as they are getting experience of first team games in a team that (for now) values ball skills.
Yes I heard that as well - 5 live iirc- he has a point but it is is not a long term sustainable approach to challenge for the top honours. No offence lot of time for Everton and their fans [ far more reasonable than Liverpool fans IME of working there].
Will he really replace players with ones of the same quality year on year on year.
I doubt it but I wish them well.
The one I can't understand is Lakaku. Jose's busy throwing his toys out of the pram about his lack of strikers ( I'm sure many toon fans and scousers are allowing themselves a wry smile about the failure of his £60 million+ strike force ), yet he's still out on loan at Everton, having a great season!
It makes no sense. But then Chelski often doesn't. I'm sure Martinez isn't complaining. And Lakaku's goal celebration on Saturday suggested a 'please make this a permanent move!' attitude towards Everton. Understandable. Getting games every week, under a quality manager, rather than warming the bench while the £50 million guy gets played, despite not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo, just because… well… he's the £50 million guy, isn't he?
Getting games every week, under a quality manager, rather than warming the bench while the £50 million guy gets played, despite not being able to hit a cows arse with a banjo, just because… well… he's the £50 million guy, isn't he?
Yep, saw the Chelsea game and he looked barely interested. When Willian was making the run before his goal, Torres was to his right and the opportunity to make a run for Willian to slip a cheeky little through ball onto was there. But he just stood still on the edge of the box. So Willian just wellied it into the corner (great shimmy and finish). Torres didn't celebrate initially, just looked hacked off.
As a gooner I have to say I'm gutted, but not surprised. Started out so well but haven't been the same without Ramsey and once Walcott was ruled out soon after I thought we'd end up getting found out.
With regard to some of the comments above, Wenger's initial success was indeed based upon steel in the midfield and defence with pace on the wings (Overmars in his pomp), but this was combined with an ability to retain possession intelligently and play expansive, attacking football. By the mid 2000s, with the invincibles and the run to the Champions League final we were playing a brand of possession pass and move that was the envy of Europe and was, dare I say it, the blueprint for Barcelona's tiki-taka domination of the last 7-8 years.
Problem is you have to keep evolving. Players change, other teams work out how to nullify your tactics. We haven't evolved enough and against the better teams (top 5 basically) we've been a poor second best. It seems to me that some of the best teams now, play a style of football that is not dissimilar to what we were doing in 97/98/99. History repeats itself.
Good luck to Liverpool. Great club, great team, great fans, playing great football. Hope they do it. If not Citeh!. Just as long as it's not Chelski!
Good luck to Liverpool. Great club, great team, great fans, playing great football. Hope they do it. If not Citeh!. Just as long as it's not Chelski!
This, really. Obviously I want City to win it, but TBH it would be a great consolation prize for Liverpool to take it if we muck it up. They've played some great stuff this season.
That Arsenal squad at the time was awesome. It isn't just Vierra in midfield. You had quality all over the pitch. Bergkamp, Henry, Overmars, Jungberg. I used to love the United Arse games at the time. Proper battles. Game of the season.
Game of the season this year is next weekend at Anfield. Both teams playing fast, attacking football. It'll be a spectacle. I could see it finishing 6 - 4, or something daft. Though I wouldn't like to predict who too. A proper season decider. Like the Man Yoo Arsenal games used to be.
Chelski are going to have difficulty offloading the Spanish sulker. He's under contract for another 2 years, and his wage bill is over £9 million a year. I wouldn't give him his bus fare home on the strength of this seasons performances! He looks like he'd rather be anywhere else than on the pitch. Like he genuinely can't be arsed. No wonder the Special One let rip at him!
They won't be able to give him away, unless its on some bonkers loan deal where they're paying half his wages. Ba back to Newcastle, for a lot less than they payed?
I think Suarez should be looking at the sorry Torres saga when he considers his future at the end of the season. Is it really worth the lure of bonkers wages. There are more important things if you've got anything between your ears. Obviously as a United fan, I hope he's off to Real 😉
Everton have some real issues next season if they do get CL
Squad too small and lacks quality in depth and their best players are not theirs- would they have enough money to invest? Could they get good enough players?
It's not the teams that make the CL that have these issues, it's the ones that don't.
Top players wanted to go to Everton last summer without CL, it won't be harder to persuade them with CL qualification. Their loans have been a massive success, It's a great place to go as a pro footballer if they want you.
It's the teams like MU and Spurs that are gonna feel the difference trying to attract CL quality players (+managers? 😉 ) without CL involvement. And also finding the cash to pay the one's they've got.
Rooney back to Everton on a season long loan, you know it's best for all involved, to be next year's "Lukaku" deal.
And that's just nonsense that their best players aren't their own , Baines, Coleman, Jags, Stones, Howard, McCartey, Mirralas, Pieanaarr.
And Barkeley 🙂
And that's just nonsense that their best players aren't their own , Baines, Coleman, Jags, Stones, Howard, McCartey, Mirralas, Pieanaarr.
And Barkeley
Who is their best striker?
Sorry about the delay. Just seen the replay from the weekend victory. It was pretty unanimous that the centre forward Naismith was the best player on the pitch, so you can add him to that list if you like.
Stick by the fact that they've got the best pair of fullbacks in the league,
centre backs good enough to keep clean sheets against Arsenal,
attacking mids with a lot more goal threat than any of the pretty-pretty ones in the opposition ( injured Walcott excepted- awesome player and big loss to England too)
and a keeper that continues to make a mockery of the millions spunked by whiskeynose on his replacements.
All a bit irrelevent- Arsenal should still qualify though - Points on the board and easy run in.
Who's their best striker, btw?
centre backs good enough to keep clean sheets against Arsenal,
While I am not questioning the talent of Jags, Baines, Colemean ...and am a really big fan of Stones, having Arsenal attack you at the moment is like being punched by a kitten. So a clean sheet against them should not be a useful yardstick.
Who's their best striker, btw?
Lukaku.
Anyway, I am not hating on Everton. Just mentioning their loan players have been pivotal for them this season, so hopefully they can retain, buy or replace with similar quality.
All a bit irrelevent- Arsenal should still qualify though - Points on the board and easy run in.
Who's their best striker, btw?
Bendtner?
Sorry, meant Arsenal's.
Which Kitten? 😉
That post saying Everton will have more pull in the transfer market than Man U is total bobbins as the Mancs say. All of this Man U are finished carry on is getting too much now. Ok they won't be in next year's CL but let us not forget they have dominated the league for the past 20 years and are still the reigning champions. Everyone lourding it over them makes me very uneasy. Just read it again and it must be a joke? Man U struggling to pay wages? I would stake any money that even if Everton make the CL then Man U will still have more pull in the market, more for transfers and more for wages. If you think Man U won't be back then you are dillusional.
Sorry, meant Arsenal's.
I imagine Thierry Henry....that's 2014's Thierry Henry.
As for kittens. Giroud on Sunday was pretty bad. I have seen glaciers move faster.
Ok they won't be in next year's CL but let us not forget they have dominated the league for the past 20 years and are still the reigning champions.
Bit of an aside, but how long does a claim to be Champions last?
They're 17 points off the top with 15 points to play for.
The season may not be over yet, but the table shows they've been knocked off that perch.
It might be a bit early to talk about who are the Champions Elect, too many teams still in it. But United aren't one of them.
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That post saying Everton will have more pull in the transfer market than Man U is total bobbins as the Mancs say. All of this Man U are finished carry on is getting too much now. Ok they won't be in next year's CL but let us not forget they have dominated the league for the past 20 years and are still the reigning champions. Everyone lourding it over them makes me very uneasy. Just read it again and it must be a joke? Man U struggling to pay wages? I would stake any money that even if Everton make the CL then Man U will still have more pull in the market, more for transfers and more for wages. If you think Man U won't be back then you are dillusional.
But it's unlikely to be next year,or the year after that, or even the next ten,TBH.
United are just too big and slow and lumbering to reverse a slide in a season or two, especially if they give the muppet another crack at running the team next year.
If you were a promising young player with talent to spare, who would you trust to improve your game? Martinez or Moyes?
Martinez has enough about him to attract players, in the same way Wenger had a few years back.
It'll be good to see both lots of Scousers mixing it up at the top again.
(Chelsea fan here, but hating the way they've been run recently!)
If you were a promising young player with talent to spare, who would you trust to improve your game? Martinez or Moyes?
Well the everton team is mainly made up of home grown players or ones Moyes bought or developed
Martinez is a great manager but Everton just do not have the pull of Man U.
I think you remain champions till the end of the season or at least until a new champion is declared so they are still the champions...not saying I agree with the tone of that post but simply answering the question
i think we can all see the league table but they have not so much been knocked off as dived bombed off themselves in to the arms of Moyes 😉
The broad thrust of what they say is correct football these days is about money and also MONEY [ and a little tradition]
Sadly everton have not enough money or global appeal to attract the best....may get better loan players is that what you meant 😉
Man u and Arsenal are what 18 years in CL and Everton not once [ bloody Liverpool eh]
No disrespect to Everton but look at how city did first year in Europe and then remember Blackburn rovers.
Ok they won't be in next year's CL but let us not forget they have dominated the league for the past 20 years and are still the reigning champions.
Liverpool supporters were saying that in April 1991...
Predictions of we will win it next year to 20 years of hurt say nothing more than what we hope will happen next
The earlier measuring stick was CL places, they are 7 points off that. So if Everton finish above them for the first time it makes them higher up the pecking order? Obviously it's all just opinion but that seems absolute nonsense to me. Last year's form doesn't mean everything as Liverpool fans know. I'll say it again, the notion that Everton will be ahead of man U in the hunt for top players is absolute garbage. Suggesting that recent history is worthless without finishing in the top for is ridiculous aswel.
Sorry about the mixed metaphors
- It was the commentary at the weekend that highlighted to me that their "defence of the premiership" was over - no longer defending champions. As the Spanish waiter would say - fact.
We could split hairs over whether that means they've been "dethroned" from their "reign" but it's not really important any more.
Who really knows anyway. I just feel it would be unwise to completey write them off as a force. You never know how it's going to pan out. Which is why the premiership is so exciting I s'pose.