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 Mark
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Appreciate the info @brakestoomuch That's helpful.

@bruneep any chance you could help us out with some more info on your browser?

 
Posted : 30/09/2021 9:59 am
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<div>@mark</div>
<div>Chrome is up to date Version 94.0.4606.61 (Official Build) (64-bit)</div>
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<div>W10</div>

edit  🙄

FFS !

 
Posted : 30/09/2021 10:03 am
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Having the same issue. On every single page. I accept the but asks me when i navigate to another page.

THis is on android and chrome

 
Posted : 30/09/2021 12:53 pm
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hmm, came to this thread in hope of finding resolution - but not really.

Logged in as member, have hit the consent I think, but popup ads everywhere still. Safari (15.0) on macOS 11.6.

Not sure I'll be on much until the ads go away - and yes, have actioned the cookie killer link.

 
Posted : 30/09/2021 2:07 pm
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This is just a suggestion, but having faced issues like this in the past, I think it would be useful to STW to know/be told if you have deleted ALL your STW cookies.

The cookie killer link doesn't do this, it only expires selected ones - and your browser will sending old cookies mixed in with new cookies, confusingly with the same name ( due to some technical stuff with domains and paths, which you can don't care about).

Please delete them ALL via the link below for STW, and then report any ongoing issues.

Once you have deleted your STW cookies, you will have to sign in and give consent again.

If after that you are still having issues - then the STW code is faulty for you, but until you have deleted them, you will get random results, as new cookie values are mixed in with old ones.

My browser for example has 160 cookies, many with the same name but different paths and domains just for STW.

Here is example steps on how to do this:
https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity-privacy-how-to-clear-cookies.html

 
Posted : 30/09/2021 2:29 pm
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@malgrey sorry for the ongoing issues. We are developing our own specific cookie ‘flush’ and building it into the site so that the old cookie (THAT WON’T DIE!) will be flushed as soon as you open any page. A bit like building in the cookie killer to every page but for a specific cookie only. Hopefully when you are back that will clear things up for you.

Mark

Thanks for the reply Mark.

Unfortunately, no change yet and just done the cookie killer again, but I'll be patient!

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 9:39 am
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seems to have fixed on my W10 laptop on Chrome, but not on my android phone!

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 10:04 am
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This is just a suggestion, but having faced issues like this in the past, I think it would be useful to STW to know/be told if you have deleted ALL your STW cookies.

Thanks @haloric, clearing the STW cookies fixed the problem for me. I owe you.

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 10:29 am
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You can't see specific cookies on chrome on an android device. If doesn't give you that option. WHat i find strange is this problem doesn't occur on desktop for me. Even though i've bene browsing this site for years

seems excessive to need 19 cookies for this domain?

Screenshot-2021-10-01-at-10-55-46

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 10:57 am
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I can explain what I think happened if you want, but its only guessing 'cos I don't have any knowledge of what actually changed, and its very technical involving cookie domain name changes, and path complications, and a fairly misunderstood technical spec regarding what should happen when a cookie is sent to a website, but multiple cookies actually match the spec for what should be sent, etc. It's a common problem, often mishandled.

I have 160 valid cookies for STW as it happens, but as a non-member I only needed to clear the euconsent-v2 cookie, and it all seems to work, so I don't care how many there are until it doesn't. I have just 11 for facebook for reference.

Presumably there is a delete or clear button cropped off your image ? After using it, does it work normally again is what STW would probably want to know.

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:23 am
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W10 and chrome here. Deleted all STW cookies. Got the cookie message only once but am still getting ads.

 
Posted : 01/10/2021 11:40 am
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Completely unusable on stock Chrome this morning with no extensions. Got stuck in a loop of cookies on the cookie killer page!

Under my Firefox install with various adblockers/no tracking extensions installed (that I normally wouldn't use for STW) - it works fine...

This is on Android

 
Posted : 02/10/2021 7:03 am
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This fixed it for me on Chrome:

1. Click the three dots in the top-right corner, and then "Settings".
2. Scroll down to "Privacy and Security", and then under that section click on "Site Settings".
3. Click on "View permissions and data across all sites".
4. In this new page, type "singletrack" into the search bar. You'll probably see multiple entries.
5. Next to each one, click the three dots and then "Clear settings".

 
Posted : 02/10/2021 9:07 am
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I've just got back online after travelling to France and finding our internet connection bust.

I expected to see that this problem had been resolved but not for me anyway....

laptop, windows 10, firefox.   Any suggestions please.  It's too painful trying to go through all of this thread to try and find answers... thanks.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 7:44 am
 Drac
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Try this.

www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/bloody-cookies/page/5/#post-12055812

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 7:47 am
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@Flaperon - yup same for me. Cleared out everything for Chrome, no more nag.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:00 am
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Try this.

http://www.singletrackworld.com/forum/topic/bloody-cookies/page/5/#post-12055812

Thanks...I tried that but no success.

I've just tried using MS Edge which I've had sitting dormant on my laptop for ages and never used. Thought I'd try that...so far so good.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 11:35 am
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whats all this now?

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 9:27 pm
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whats all this now?

I’ve been wondering that but suspected it would be a waste of time asking

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 9:30 pm
 Mark
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It’s a video?

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 9:47 pm
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I’ve been wondering that but suspected it would be a waste of time asking

seems paying  not to have adverts and pop ups is also a waste of time

It’s a video?

👏  bravo 🙄

why the need to have a pop up and take up half my screen?

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 9:49 pm
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I love a moan as much as anyone, but to be clear are you complaining about the website you pay to support prompting its own content?

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 9:57 pm
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I’ve just used the norton link that haloric posted further up this page and it seems to be working for me 👍👍

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:04 pm
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i'm quite able to click on content if i want to view it, we now have a pop up video I have to close every time page loads and a video that takes up half my page.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:06 pm
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I love a moan as much as anyone, but to be clear are you complaining about the website you pay to support prompting its own content?

I admit I hadn’t considered that it may be intentional

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:07 pm
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It’s a video?

My suspicions were correct

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:09 pm
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I love a moan as much as anyone, but to be clear are you complaining about the website you pay to support prompting its own content

Yes, because we pay money not to be shown adverts, whether 3rd party or in house, if I wanted adverts I wouldn't pay a yearly fee.
It's not cricket.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:16 pm
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..a pop up video I have to close every time page loads and a video that takes up half my page.

Well that does sound like a pain tbf.

Your blind manufacturer recommendation many years back has been invaluable btw and saved me a fortune, thanks.

 
Posted : 08/10/2021 10:43 pm
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It’s a video?

And it keeps popping up when I go back to the main forum page. As in every.****ing.time.

It’s ****ing annoying having to cancel it.

And there was me thinking being a paid up member meant ad free 🤷🏼‍♀️

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 12:04 pm
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Even better, videos now embedded in the main page like, you know, adverts...

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 12:12 pm
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And the Coronavirus thread apparently has only 5 posts

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Posted : 09/10/2021 1:58 pm
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Main page sorted out for me now.

Also seeing right no. Of posts on corona thread now... (but clicking on last post takes me to page 1...)

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 2:20 pm
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I hate to sound harsh but it's very very poor.

I wonder what sort of income comes from forum either through Subs or magazine purchases and how much they'd lose from closing the forum etc.

They don't seem to care about the forum as much as the mag so I'm guessing that tells the answer on finances

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 4:04 pm
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I just spent a strangely long time getting here, via the ridiculous advert that pops up after clicking chat, then the thing that keeps asking for permission to use cookies at every page change, just to join a thread moaning about it.

There comes a point where there is more stuff to navigate than the content posted, then it all slides off the cliff of over exploited user created content milked for all it was worth.

Frustration vented, 5 mins of life lost, 4 'do you agree with cookies' clicks, lost the enthusiasm to post anything else.

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 9:04 pm
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I wonder what sort of income comes from forum either through Subs or magazine purchases and how much they’d lose from closing the forum etc.

They don’t seem to care about the forum as much as the mag so I’m guessing that tells the answer on finances

two issues - the forum drives traffic to the website and the forum makes money to support the mag ( although less than previously from Marks answers)

I do believe there is a disconnect between what most visitors want and what STW towers want to do

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 9:53 pm
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Just realised that I haven't seen any cookies tonight.

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 10:37 pm
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I do believe there is a disconnect between what most visitors want and what STW towers want to do

Me too.  Is the forum a vanity publisher?

https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/vanity-publishing

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 11:00 pm
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And the Coronavirus thread apparently has only 5 posts

According to my first page, there are 33,211…
But I don’t use Chrome, or Android, or Windows.
I do pay a subscription, and I use Brave with DuckDuckGo as my search. And I don’t seem to get any of the issues that so many seem to suffer from, nor have I for what seems like years, even prior to becoming a subscriber, and that was more a guilt-based thing, because I wasn’t seeing the adverts, so I decided to cough up to support the site.
I’m on iOS 15, occasionally using Safari with DuckDuckGo as my search, but mostly I use Brave with DuckDuckGo, or else I use Firefox or Ghostery, but always with DuckDuckGo as my default search. I also use a VPN, and I won’t touch anything to do with Microsoft or Google with a barge-pole. Unless I absolutely have to.
Hope that helps.

 
Posted : 09/10/2021 11:38 pm
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Seems to be an issue with the Classifieds too. My ad got moderated yesterday pm, it appeared this morning, I edited a spelling mistake and it disappeared.

Paid for a new boosted ad and there's no sign of it.

 
Posted : 10/10/2021 8:19 am
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Yeah, we ****ing get it Drac - you don't have a single problem, ever.

However, people running standard stuff that works happily on every other website come here and their regular everyday setup shits a brick.

It's a shite forum with serious amount wrong with it.

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 9:44 pm
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@haloric

I deleted my cookies and it seems to have fixed it. (opera)

Thanks

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 10:49 pm
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I deleted my cookies and it seems to have fixed it. (opera)

Excellent. I think some browsers must not be clearing all the cookies for the site to be still having a problem for them.

As a reminder:

Please delete them ALL via the link below for STW, and then report any ongoing issues.

Once you have deleted your STW cookies, you will have to sign in and give consent again.

Here is example steps on how to do this:
https://us.norton.com/internetsecurity-privacy-how-to-clear-cookies.html

 
Posted : 11/10/2021 11:28 pm
 Drac
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Yeah, we **** get it Drac – you don’t have a single problem, ever.

If you bothered reading the thread rather than jump in on a personal attack you’ll see I had issues too, luckily like many others it was fixed by deleting a cookie.

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 12:21 am
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luckily like many others it was fixed by deleting a cooking.

Sounds a bit half baked to me 😉

 
Posted : 12/10/2021 12:22 am
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Still getting prompted when I open STW if I've not been on for a while.
I've tried deleting cookies AGAIN and going through the privacy settings again. Let's see if that fixes it.
Weird that only this site needs me to delete cookies after accepting/setting privacy settings.

FWIW (probably nothing) I'm finally starting to lose patience with the shit performance of the site and increasing issues when using it.

 
Posted : 16/10/2021 7:52 pm
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Still having to go through and untick "legitimate interest" (wtf is that supposed to mean?) and sace settings.
I've deleted all cookies, saved settings, I subscribe - what else is there that I can do to stop this crap?

 
Posted : 23/10/2021 10:31 pm
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Visit properly functioning forums?

 
Posted : 24/10/2021 9:58 am
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Still having to go through and untick “legitimate interest” (wtf is that supposed to mean?)

Consent: tick this box to opt in for cookies/emails/etc

Legitimate Interest: actually we're going to do it anyway. Untick this box to opt-out

It's a bit of a mess

 
Posted : 24/10/2021 11:14 am
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I’ve deleted all cookies, saved settings, I subscribe – what else is there that I can do to stop this crap?

Use a VPN with a non-EU address. Only if you're happy not to be asked for consent to place cookies though.

 
Posted : 24/10/2021 11:24 am
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cookies message tonight just now, followed by full adverts even though signed in.

 
Posted : 28/10/2021 1:49 am
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I am getting the 502 bad gateway a lot right now

 
Posted : 28/10/2021 6:55 am
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The cookies content and legitimate interest unticking is a pain the hoop.

My other iPad I can’t uncheck some boxes and there are ****ing hundreds to go through. Again and again. So I’m not going to use stw on that one anymore.

In fact think I’m going to stop bothering on this one too…

 
Posted : 28/10/2021 7:41 am
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I am still seeing this occasionally on each device, any idea what could be driving it?

The consent handling is as complicated as the Daily Mail's, in making each single advertiser a tick box - IMHO highly unethical given the purpose of the legislation behind it.

Sure nobody would care but it is enough to drive me off this site. Subscription already cancelled with the constant hammering when the issues first started but it doesn't feel anything like sorted.

 
Posted : 03/11/2021 11:56 am
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Interesting times ahead as IAB Europe's (the trade association for the adtech industry) consent popups are proven unlawful. Second bullet point in link very relevant to sites relying on "legitimate interest".

https://www.iccl.ie/news/gdpr-enforcer-rules-that-iab-europes-consent-popups-are-unlawful/

 
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