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I have now been asked more then ten times in twenty minutes to accept.
Even accept all does makes this SH!T go away

No add blockers or fancy stuff running, way to old for that fancy stuff.

Why seems singletracks programmers getting this stuff wrong all the time

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 7:56 pm
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STW's new coder

though it's probably the eu's fault

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 7:59 pm
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Yup..... currently unusable

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 8:07 pm
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Aaarrgh this is worse than usual!

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 8:09 pm
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Yup.
Every. Damn. Page.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 8:15 pm
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Can I be the first to say what you on about? £2 a month.......

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:02 pm
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I'm not having any problems.....

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:13 pm
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Every page I get asked. Every page. The quality control is pretty poor.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:15 pm
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I had it pop up once which was a tad odd which did make me check if I was logged in still (which I was) but it was only once for now.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:16 pm
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Intrusive and unuseable!
Quite a nice green though...

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:37 pm
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The past few weeks have been bad for ads etc.  I’ve not been kicked out much but get ads, accept this, accept that, full screen ads that have to be closed despite being paid up and logged in

Can I be the first to say what you on about? £2 a month…….

Yup for only £2 a month you can have a less crap experience.  Not great but not as bad, what a pitch 😀

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:39 pm
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I’m not having any problems…..

Me neither

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:43 pm
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I thought it was just me!
Stupid cookies

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:49 pm
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It's been a problem for years tbh. "Remember my logon on this computer".

It does. For about a week. Or until you change pages.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:52 pm
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I'm sure it's my fault for not paying a subscription :rolleyes: but autoplay videos for the last two weeks and now massive interpage adds and relentless cookies questions and a third of the screen lost to another advert is a pisstake.

It's not been great since the rhubarb and custard screen went but I'm looking and posting fewer times a week because of the ballache.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 9:58 pm
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Every new page, that's after closing all the various ads, and I can't go on Mols car thread, just goes blank and asks me to wait or close, as forums go it is painful.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 10:20 pm
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I'm a paid member and I'm logged in and I'm getting them too - ****ing PITA

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 10:25 pm
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On a positive note, I've not been able to reply to any threads all afternoon until now, due to the glitch. 😆

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 10:26 pm
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Sites been running a bit slow, but no ads or pop ups for me. Think I have to log back in about once a month.

Surprised other full members are having issues though

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 10:38 pm
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Look on the bright side, eh, chaps?
At least you can have the irritating new Privacy popup in any one of about a dozen European languages. Despite Br**it.

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 11:44 pm
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Yup for only £2 a month you can have a less crap experience. Not great but not as bad, what a pitch

Functioning fine on my iPad. I’m a subscriber, but I didn’t have a problem before, mainly because of the browser combination I use. I get kicked off occasionally, usually if I haven’t been on the forum for a few days. Unusual, I know, but it does happen…

 
Posted : 24/09/2021 11:58 pm
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Had the same issue using an android phone(note 10+) with chrome browser.
Quick search for another browser, installed opera and no ads or anything...for now

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 12:32 am
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<crosses fingers> All ok on my Samsung phone using DuckDuckGo browser...</crosses fingers>

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 2:34 am
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Every new page, that’s after closing all the various ads, and I can’t go on Mols car thread, just goes blank and asks me to wait or close, as forums go it is painful.

Yes but you're a freeloader, shut up and stop complaining. If you want an opinion you have to pay for it.

FWIW it's running like a heap on Chrome at work and hangs like a sloth on Firefox mobile. Both have a white bar along the bottom which appears to be a greyed out ad (work has built in ad blocking and god knows what it's doing on mobile). Cookie popup on every single page or refresh.

Oh and "Keep me signed in" only works if you use one device, otherwise it just logs you back out again.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 6:03 am
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I’m a paid member and I’m logged in and I’m getting them too – **** PITA

Same here.

Oh and “Keep me signed in” only works if you use one device, otherwise it just logs you back out again.

And here.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 7:27 am
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Same here. Prompted to accept cookies on every single page.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 7:57 am
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Same here, never had it before and I've been using this phone/browse combination for 3 years.
Painful

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 8:28 am
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works fine for me, both logged in and logged out

can only guess that it's cos I've whitelisted cookies for STW (and told it to delete most other cookies on browser exit, and deny 3rd party cookies)

or STW is selectively singling out users to treat one way or the other

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 8:30 am
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It's a feature......

That or distributed cryptocurrency mining.............

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 8:43 am
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Becoming a very unpleasant experience. If it doesn’t improve I doubt I’ll be back.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 9:36 am
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I had that last night, this am I used the cookie killer, closed the browser and the restarted it. I’ve had no issues since, might be worth trying.

Also remember to report any issues please.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 9:40 am
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Terrible here too on Android. I'll pop back in a week or so to see if it's sorted.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 9:44 am
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Had this as well this morning on my Android/Chrome browser. Just clicked on the STW Cookie killer link at the bottom ⬇️, logged back in and seems to be ok now.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 9:47 am
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See what you mean OP - was fine yesterday, but a total pain on the hoop today.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:05 am
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Tried the cookie killer. Logged out, shut down browser, rebooted phone and the very first thing I see on opening STW is the privacy popup. And again on on every page. With that and pop ups and banners obscuring the text that would shame a local newspaper website, it's virtually unusable.

Same on tablet and PC, with different browsers.

Yes I have reported it.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:13 am
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I keep thinking I should sign up and pay,then stuff like this happens. If you want my money, it has to work properly, all the time.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:30 am
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Yes I have reported it.

Thank you.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:46 am
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Yep, every page.

Have cleared cookies, but no difference. Chrome, Windows 10.

Things like this do affect how often I visit this site, it has always been far more painful to use than every other forum I post on.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 11:24 am
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If it makes non-subscribers feel any better, not running much better here. Logged off repeatedly, still get occasional ads and everything feels clunky and slow

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 11:25 am
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Ads, being logged out whilst reading a thread, accepting settings seems to be the norm at the moment.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 12:18 pm
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credit where it's due - somebody has (I assume) fixed the problem (for me, at least)

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 1:10 pm
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Annoying (and yes, I’m a subscriber). Very dubious use of pre-ticked legitimate interests too.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 1:29 pm
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Wtf is this shit?

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 2:10 pm
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Agree, I hope my subscription mag doesn’t have as many popups as the website when it arrives.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 2:16 pm
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No change here other than the pop-up now being blue!
FFS
🤦🏻‍♂️

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 3:29 pm
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If you are still having issues could I ask you to try something? In Chrome. Open an incognito window. Leave 3rd Party cookies on (There's an option to turn them off - that will not work). Then login with your account details and report what happens.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 3:38 pm
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FTS

F* This S*it

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 3:50 pm
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Can you at least make it so it changes colour all the time automatically?

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 4:08 pm
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If you are still having issues could I ask you to try something? In Chrome. Open an incognito window. Leave 3rd Party cookies on (There’s an option to turn them off – that will not work). Then login with your account details and report what happens.

Mark tried this and it does inded stop the privacy pop up. Hoorah! Hope that points you to a permanent fix as it would be a PITA to have to open an incognito page just for this site and log in every time!

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 4:32 pm
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Updated Chrome, re-started PC (Win10) and now OK...touch wood...

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 4:58 pm
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No change here other than the pop-up now being blue!
FFS
🤦🏻‍♂️

I should add that is on Android with Opera browser. On Ubuntu/Chrome now and it's fine.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 5:23 pm
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@mark Yes, it looks like the incognito window approach you suggested appears to have worked. I've not returned to the un-incognito one yet, it was too much of a pest

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 6:10 pm
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Incognito is not the long term fix but it does suggest that we need to clear out some old legacy cookies from our previous ad/server setup. So try going to Chrome > Clear browsing data and then just select the cookies option. Hopefully you should find that it works in ordinary browser mode and not just incognito.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 6:53 pm
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try going to Chrome > Clear browsing data and then just select the cookies option. Hopefully you should find that it works in ordinary browser mode and not just incognito.

@mark He shoots, he scores!

Worked fine. Can't see this cookie killer but I'm not so worried about that now.

Incidentally this has also fixed [s]a lot of[/s] some issues with missing images and molgrips' merc thread [s]now appears to work properly[/s] nope, still broken. Some weird stuff going on there but not complaining.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 9:18 pm
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Every effin page! even after clicking cookie killer.
I'm outa here!

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:14 pm
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I know this will annoy those involved but why oh why is this site so problematic so often ? Is it money related or staff related or perhaps both? Something else? Never had so many issues with a site ever since the web first fired up. Love the forum and it would be terribly missed but jeez I've been using it for 15yrs and so many weird technical issues I have to wonder why?

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:31 pm
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This issue is a change of ad service provider. We have moved to a provider called Ezoic. They do more than just put ads on the page - there's a lot of optimisation going on. It's a slow process to migrate from one complex system to another and when it's all done it will have take over a month. The complexity is due to us having a very large database of millions of posts all bundled up with a membership system that runs the subscriptions for both online and print. It's not an excuse but it's pretty complex and making big changes involving lots of systems all while trying to keep the site running is tricky. It's not a staff issue, it's a complexity issue. We have out two tech guys working with counterparts at Ezoic to get everything in place. We are starting to see light now though. The next task is caching and that starts on monday.

Why do this? Well ultimately it is a better system that will generate more money for us than the previous systems.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 10:59 pm
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Will I still need to close adverts to view pages after the changes? the option is adblock software and Ezoic will hurt if everyone resorts to that.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 11:15 pm
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The vignette ad should be no more than once per visit.

It's worth pointing out that all the settings we have for ads (and the complexity fo needing to show a different profile (ads) to one user group and none to another) relies on standard web technology - namely cookies. If you have settings in your browser that alter how your browser deals with cookies then that could potentially cause issues that we can't control. Clearing cookies from your device/browser should clean out all our old cookies and allow the new ones to settle in. The cookie killer we have on our site that some have used will only clear out Singletrack cookies ie. the ones we set ourselves but it won't clear out any from our old ad networks and Ezoic.

 
Posted : 25/09/2021 11:25 pm
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Well its just happened to me

there was I smugly thinking I don't get this

then next visit - logged out, privacy pop up. all non essential cookies refused as I do on every site, privacy pop up again, logged out again, logback in and it worked but the shadow ad ( white banner) across the bottom of the screen

Prechecked "legitimate interest" seems a bit off to me as well - I thought it was all supposed to be opt in not opt out.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 12:22 am
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“ I know this will annoy those involved but why oh why is this site so problematic so often ?”

I have no idea but I don’t know of any other website this bad. It wasn’t much better when I was a subscriber to be honest so don’t fall for that one.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 12:23 am
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I had no idea what you guys were talking about as everything seemed fine for me then this morning........ cookie request òn every change of page.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 8:01 am
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Today has been fine unless I follow a link to an external site (forum PSAs for example), but when I click back to STW it goes apeshit again.
iPad/Safari.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 10:07 am
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Anecdotally, Safari does seem to be a persistent problem child.

Just to reiterate what Mark said: the STW forum looks basic. Believe me, it is not. I have stared into the belly of the beast and it would shit up HP Lovecraft.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 1:05 pm
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They're back on my Android phone.. Annoying bastids

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:14 pm
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Happening to me too now.
Using firefox, no untoward settings.

Darn, annoying.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:15 pm
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Hurrah 🙄

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:19 pm
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Just started getting them, 2 minutes ago. Windows 10 and Edge.
And Android and Edge.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:23 pm
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Posted : 26/09/2021 2:25 pm
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OMFG . I would edit that but it will just lead to more frustration.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:26 pm
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I wasn't getting the cookies thing, now it's every other time I click/do anything on here. This website is an absolute shitshow.

Android and Chrome FWIW

Subscribe they said, then all the issues will magically disappear. 🤥

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:27 pm
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The cherry on the shit-cake is any objections to 'legitimate interest' are not being saved.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:29 pm
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It just happened to me too.

I'm gathering as much info as I can and providing it to our tech guys both in house and at Ezoic. They won't be able to get on it until the morning and there's not a great deal I can do myself but I did just clear my browsing data, including cookies and it stopped the CMP popup on every page. I know it's a right PITA right now but i'm pretty confident we'll have it fixed in the morning. In the meantime try a cookie clear out.

Mark

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:31 pm
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Just to reiterate what Mark said: the STW forum looks basic. Believe me, it is not. I have stared into the belly of the beast and it would shit up HP Lovecraft.

Maybe that's the problem. Is there not off the shelf forum software?

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:31 pm
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Just had that (iOS 15 safari iPad) and now getting ads too

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:34 pm
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Closed my STW tab then reopened it - all fine. Still logged in. refusing all cookies I can here so maybe that gives someone a clue.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:52 pm
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Ads or no ads TJ?

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 2:54 pm
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Has started doing it for me now

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 3:02 pm
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@mark just as an aside referring to my earlier post, I found out the reason why I'm not seeing a lot of posted pictures is because I had a facebook container blocker running, if you get anyone else complaining that's worth a look.

@everyone_else I run a cookie request blocker called 'I Don't Care About Cookies' on Firefox. It's really good.

 
Posted : 26/09/2021 6:22 pm
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Ads or no ads TJ?

No ads but I also run that thing that must not me mentioned 🙂

i did get the white areas for ads when not logged in

 
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