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Crazy crazy....
My quasi m-in-l here in Germany told me it was raining in London. I replied with a flippant "is that anything new?".
Just looked at the news and it looks as though it's more than your usual downpour. Hospitals flooded. Residential streets look like canals.
Something is happening....
No, it's ok GB News ran a piece on this.
Perfectly normal changes in climate. Nothing to do with human activity and anyway, we couldn't do anything even if it was.
Phew.
I think I need to watch GB news, just to help put my mind at ease....
^^ Christ no, I'm still reeling from Right Said Fred** on there extolling the virtues of letting Covid rip and how vaccines are BS.
** Yes, they are on there for their obvious learned views on such matters.
Such views are why they are no longer storming the charts. Apparently. Cancel culture etc.
Go figure.
"I'm too sexy for my mask... Too sexy for my mask... Too sexy for my mask... It hurts"
Driving back into London on the A12 last night about 9 there were some lakes and stranded cars at bits where the road dips or cambers. M11 had been shut at M25 but not sure if that was rain related. Was very wet though
Happened in Edinburgh a few weeks ago and hardly made the news!
Happened in Edinburgh a few weeks ago and hardly made the news!
It’s the third time in the last month it’s happened in London. TBF, first time I’ve heard of hospitals flooding but tube & train lines have been shut regularly due to flooding.
I was on the North Downs and it was biblical.
I'll be honest, think the wettest place was about 1.6 inches of rain in 24 hours, which I wouldn't have expected to be quite so devastating? Not disputing the effects of climate change, but possibly existing infrastructure failed?
That said, when I was working in insurance in the 90s the Association of British Indurers was having discussions with the government about "when" sections of London would be uninsurable, not "if".
As Gb spews and this paper someone dumps in my shop say ,it’s all fake.
“We must be oxygen free” jeez
Just had a call from my guys at Hoddesdon to say the site is closed as its been flooded.
Perfectly dry outside, but apparently a build up of debris due to years of no maintenance on the roof has meant the valley gutters have overflowed dumping their load into the building ( which has done a great job of holding the water ). Not going to affect us, but all the ply and plaster on the floor is done for.
Parts of London were getting 30mm+ in an hour yesterday. Our infrastructure isn't built for it.
It's suggested that the 1 in 100 year event is now a 1 in 7 event. This requires some significant change both to protect existing but also in the planning of new projects.
@zippykona I've had that newspaper come the door as well. Hurts your head after a couple of pages...
So a 1 in 7 event... is that once a week now.
We live on a hill, so fortunately spared any real problems. I've seen downpours, but Sunday's rain was ****ing mental. And it wasn't just for a few minutes either; the heavy rain lasted a few hours. A friend's allotment flooded; her side was ok, but the other side was completely flooded. Many years of hard work, ruined, for some poor folk. That has never happened before; the large amount of rain we've had this 'summer' means the ground is absolutely waterlogged, so any more water has nowhere to go. In a city like London, this is a major issue. So much infrastructure needs to be urgently considered, to help prevent future damage, but I doubt that will ever happen. The ravages of capitalism have meant essential maintenance/preventative works just haven't been done, and the entire system is close to collapse. In a city with 8-9 million inhabitants, this is an issue of global significance.
Happened in Edinburgh a few weeks ago and hardly made the news!
Why would it?
Happened in Edinburgh a few weeks ago and hardly made the news!
Sorry where?
the large amount of rain we’ve had this ‘summer’ means the ground is absolutely waterlogged, so any more water has nowhere to go.
Whit? Has the weather been consistently bad in London this summer? It's been awesome in the north west of England, so I assumed it had been everywhere.
Interestingly a few years we had a leak from the roof, but couldn't work out why.
When I got the Slater over he suggested that one of the valley gutters wasn't wide enough to cope with the volume - I questioned why, as the building is 150 years old and it's never been an issue.
He said that he's seeing it a lot on older buildings and thinks it's related to the weather and how we're getting my 'intense' spells of weather. Whether its rain, sun, snow etc.
Either way, he did the work and we've not had an issue since.
Flooding is awful. Used to live in a lovely spot that would routinely get flooded (happened 3 times to me), and it was more mentally taxing than I think anything I've dealt with before. really very stressful.
The wettest part of the country on Sunday was St James’s Park in London, where 41.8mm of rain fell.
The average rainfall for July in London is 45mm
That's why it causes problems as the infrastructure is not designed to cope with that intensity.
Whit? Has the weather been consistently bad in London this summer?
No, it's generally been ok; we've had some proper mad heat as well. It's the sheer intensity of the downpours, that have led to the saturation. On the plus side, it's great for the plants and gardens etc; it's looking positively tropical. Really lovely. But obviously flash flooding is not something most people are geared up to cope with. But I think the idea that it's just 'freak weather' is making way for 'this is how it's going to be from now on'. But equipping a city this size, to be able to cope with such extreme weather, is practically impossible; London was founded with very different climatic conditions to what we're seeing now.
Currently bucketing down again. It's the sheer volume of water that's falling from the sky, that's alarming. The creaking ancient old Victorian drains just aren't coping. Local businesses have been severely affected by it.
https://www.hamhigh.co.uk/news/muswell-hill-floods-devastate-park-road-record-shop-8141326
Unprecedented.
Edinburgh floods made the news, but they appeared to last about a day and a bit so quickly left the news.
We've had a great run of great weather the last few weeks here...bit sad the trails are going to be damp but also glad the ground and plants are getting a soaking. We aren't saturated so the rain will be away quick enough.
Seeing the stuff in London it looks grim and makes me glad I'm not there, but it can't be good for those affected, not matter how much argument is made for knowing about flooding and stuff, it must be really grim for this affected.
In Salford, we had about two hours of thunder and lightning this afternoon along with intermittent biblicals. Quite entertaining. Not for the cats though.
It finished raining here about half hour ago. The sort of rain that makes you stand at the back door in awe and wonder.
Obviously happens from time to time, but 3 times in as many weeks? Seriously wrong.
I'm guessing Twickenham green will become Twickenham lake yet again
Currently bucketing down again. It’s the sheer volume of water that’s falling from the sky, that’s alarming. The creaking ancient old Victorian drains just aren’t coping.
That's because they weren't designed with climate models in mind. They were designed for Victorian London which had significantly more green space.
I’m guessing Twickenham green will become Twickenham lake yet again
It's a SUD
what's a SUD?
Actually it's correctly called SuDS, my error
https://www.local.gov.uk/topics/severe-weather/flooding/sustainable-drainage-systems
but 3 times in as many weeks? Seriously wrong.
And what are your meteorology credentials?
They were designed for Victorian London which had significantly more green space.
Although thats not always a good thing if its mostly grass and bone dry.
The amount of water pouring through the gates of Finsbury Park on Sunday just after the rain had passed through was pretty spectacular.
biblical but short rain showers in south london today!
Climate change, global warming ... LOL!
Yes, keep cutting down the forest and with population increase, you can blame everything you wish.
I suspect Philip Pullman is chuckling to himself, it's as if the Book of Dust is coming to life.
Yep I had to cycle between sites in London today, only about 3km but caught one of the monster downpoors
I'd left my waterproof trousers at home so pants, shorts socks, shoes completely sodden within minutes
Was quite an impressive amount of surface water for a while