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Binoculars - general use max £150 - what should I get?

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For a mates 40th -  I wouldn't dream of spending this on a mate usually but he did with me so...

He's into walking, not hiking, just nice longs walks in the countryside / coast - he's mentioned a few times about getting some nice binoculars so seems a good idea

Although I understand the basics, I just don't really know enough about them.

I'd rather get him some 'proper' ones as opposed to the mini style ones - but nothing too cumbersome.

I've seen these ones - Nikon PROSTAFF P3 10x42 Binoculars - looks like the sort of thing I had in mind.

Any ideas from people whio know about these things welcome - thanks

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:13 am
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I've got some retro 8x30 carl zeiss jena that are 40 years old. Image quality is superb, proper normal size binos. You can still pick them up if you peruse dealer websites

They are lovely to hold and use, so as thats what  I have I recommend them and I would be delighted to get them for my birthday. They have a stitched leather case, really nice kit. I have some tiny Pentax too, horrible and plasticy in comparison

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:22 am
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My wife bought me some Hawke Endurance ED Waterproof 10x42 a year or so ago.

They are not too big and heavy, rubberised so don't slip when wearing wet gloves and are easy to use. They cam with a load of info about focal length etc but basically are good enough to zoom in on the birds in the bushed on the other side of the garden or sheep on the other side of the the mountain valley. It makes them great for when you are out and about walking as they are pretty much capable of zooming in on anything you see.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:27 am
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Just checked and from my desk I could see a bumblebee on a flower about 35m away, the little hoverfly flitting around behind it and a couple of ants walking up the leaves. Without them I can see a bush with a few flowers on it.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:31 am
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I bought a pair of Opticron binoculars a while back. They seem nice and should last forever. Unless I drop em.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:48 am
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I work in a shop that sells binoculars, primarily to tourists with a price range from £30-£300.  Basically, as the price goes up, you pay for better quality optics, weatherproofing/waterproofness and for some, a premium for brand name etc. At the top end, there are the likes of Leica, Swarovski and prices go into hundreds if not £1000+.  For £150 the main difference is multi-coated optics vs ED optics on higher price models. ED optics give a slightly brighter image and less colour-fringing/ distortion at the edges - for most casual users looking at a moving object they’d probably not notice.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:50 am
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+1 for Zeiss, mine must be at least 45 years old.

Just taken a look on ebay, looking at £175 for the same model with an original case.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 10:54 am
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In terms of general use, many prefer an 8x magnification as you get a broader angle of view which makes it easier to track moving objects. With higher magnification, it accentuates shake plus they are heavier. Bigger front optics (eg 42 vs 32) improve light transmission, but make them heavier. Optical coatings degrade with age, particularly exposed to moisture.

 
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I've got Hawke like WCA but 8x25 as I much prefer the smaller bins when out walking. I've some Opticron 8x42 which are also great but I don't use now as I don't like the size, and I don't want them round my neck. Prefer some that I can stick in my pocket. The Hawke are noticeably brighter too. You can get them for £150.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 11:33 am
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We’ve got some Vortex Diamondback that are v.good and compact/light.  We paid around £150 but that was a while back and I suspect they’ve gone up since.  Worth a look.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 12:00 pm
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@dovebiker where do you get your £30 bins from? Are they any good?
We are a gift shop and I would like a man's gift other than the usual socks or beer glasses.
Every man on the planet loves binoculars.
I couldn't find any at the NEC this year.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 12:00 pm
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I have had the Nikon ProStaff 7S 10x42 for a few years now and they’re a great compromise between portability, magnification and price. I think I got them for approx £175.

 
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As @dovebiker says I was advised to go 8x42. I chose a cheaper hawke model, very pleased.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 12:30 pm
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i find opticron offer great value at the lower end of the price range for bins

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 12:40 pm
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As others have said, go for 8x rather than 10x as the difference in weight and holdability outweighs the extra magnification.

Hawke, Vortex all do really good binos at that price point, with not much difference in quality. Worth bearing in mind that Vortex do an unconditional lifetime waranty, so send them any knackered pair (even accidental damage) and they'll repair or replace them. Hawke do a similar deal.

No experience of Opticron, but they are highly regarded, as are GPO.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 1:11 pm
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Thanks for all the very useful advice here 🙂

Based on all the above I've gone for Hawke Nature-Trek 8x32

Its easy to get price creep but I think/hope he'll be happy with these

Thanks again

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 3:17 pm
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I would get the 8x mag equivalent of the Nikon or if not available in Prostaff range pick from another range of Nikon. I speak from experience. For the money they are excellent.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 4:49 pm
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Find your local auction house. There are ALWAYS binoculars for sale.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 7:13 pm
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Opticron

Viking

hawke

All solid bins just go and try some.  People have different preferences

 
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Based on all the above I’ve gone for Hawke Nature-Trek 8×32

We've those exact ones. Superb for the 'oooh, What's that?' moments. They're small enough to pop in the bike bar bags, powerful enough to see.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 8:55 pm
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Fancied the Celestron Nature DX 10x56 About £140-150.

Good for looking up too.

 
Posted : 02/04/2024 9:28 pm
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I'm just wondering (because I have wonky eyes and binoculars don't work well for me), does a monocular (or telescope) do the same job.

 
Posted : 03/04/2024 10:18 am
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Dont the RSPB shops have a range that can try?

 
Posted : 03/04/2024 5:21 pm
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If you're looking at monoculars you really want to be looking at Opticron

It'll do the job just fine if you struggle with bins. I often carry a Zeiss mini quick 5x10, it's only usable in good light but I'm always surprised by how useful it can be. Have taken it in my waist pack on bikepacking trips

For bins I personally find anything up to 8x magnification to be the sweet spot. I have them ranging from 8x20 up to 8x42, although my main pair are 8x30. They get used most days

 
Posted : 03/04/2024 7:28 pm
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Yes monoculars are great for wonky eyes, there are plenty on the market. Same rules apply as binos really.

I also use mine to look at interesting bugs and creepy crawlies. If you look through the wrong end and get the eyepiece really close it acts like a very powerful magnifying glass. Moths and beetles look amazing close up

You can do it with binos too but it's a bit awkward

 
Posted : 03/04/2024 7:37 pm
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Olympus 8x40 DPS worth a look at the lower end of the price range - not a pair you can easily put in a pocket but solid and great bins for the price.

 
Posted : 04/04/2024 3:25 am