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How hard is it to pick up a bin, empty it and put it back where you got it.
Why do you decided to dump it 300 yards down the f**g road.
Also, make sure the bin is empty before you decide to dump it somewhere in the postcode.
Then you hang around at Christmas for a f**g tip.
Ours are brilliant - work long, long hours due to council cuts, collect everything (even stuff left neatly with bins) and do kerbside recycling. They even manage a smile and wave at next doors toddler. 8)
They even manage a smile and wave at next doors toddler.
But the ungrateful little shit still manages to launch a tirade against them! 🙂
Ours are flipping useless. I know they have a pretty crap job, but that's no excuse for doing it badly.
one on our road demolished a lorry wing mirror and half a kerbside tree by backing through it.
I do like their cor blimey trousers though.
Ours won't take anything that isn't in the bin - with the lid closed perfectly.
Otherwise they'll walk back to the wagon, get a tag, walk back to the bin, place tag on hinge of bin that states either "overfilled" or "wrong items in bin" or "wrong plastics in bin" etc.
Could've emptied it during that time and walked half the distance too.
Oh - they also won't walk too far either - you have to take the bin down the road to a specified point or they won't empty it.
I personally like the morzine way, probably other euro places as well, with communal bins & recyclers scattered around.
Wouldn't work over here though, some dick would try to put a sofa into in.
or set fire to it for the lols
Every Wednesday, I put my bin on the drive. When I come home it's empty, so I put it back next to the garage.
I might be joining them in that career soon, so no criticism here.
Pretty good here TBH, although the recycle bin has been rejected once because they don't take glass bottles..
Like who knew.
As above. I lived in Geneva and we had large communal bins which were ace.
No problems with fires etc but I know here in the UK it wouldn't work.
I do like their cor blimey trousers though.
and daisy roots.
Not too bad in Selby District, although a couple of the drivers choose the most stupid place to stop and block the whole road.
Although I'd probably do the same or you'd get some knob trying to overtake and running the rest of the lorry crew over.
Ours are useless also. Council Tax at record highs and refuse collection every 2 weeks. People are nice enough, service is poor.
Why don't you try doing their job for a week and then post back here when you have!
have any of you ever tried this job?
they are so busy and so pushed to finish that they have to run/jog/trot to keep up with the truck so they drop the bins where they finish
I am sure, with a hike in council tax prices you wont need to take your bin to somewhere near your house or collect it from somewhere near your house.
Try the job or watch them at work or complain you dont pay enugh to get a good service but dont blame them for them having to work quickly to get the route done
Its also not their fault you overfill your bin
No complaints about our bin men as such, they always do a reasonable job.
My issue is the Council reducing our refuse collection to bi-weekly and me not getting a cut in council tax for the inconvenience.
Every Wednesday...
All the best people have bin collection on Monday - you know that...
DrP
I lived in Geneva and we had large communal bins which were ace.
No problems with fires etc but I know here in the UK it wouldn't work.
Much of Brighton has them now. Only real problem is people sleeping in them.
they are so busy as so pushed to finish that h=they have to [s]run/jog[/s]stroll to keep up with the truck so they drop the bins where they finisj
more closely aligns to anything I've ever seen.
DrP - MemberAll the best people have bin collection on Monday - you know that...
DrP
This. Means you don't have to hold onto the rubbish from the Middle Class Dinner Party any longer than strictly necessary.
Currently, in my garden, I have 9 wheelie bins and a food recycling bin.
It stopped being funny some time ago.
In the US they just drive by your bin and a hydraulic arm reaches out to your bin, grabs it, lifts it up and dumps the rubbish in then places it back exactly where it found it. It's quite something.
Ours are pretty good, bins are always left back where they found them and they usually give my toddler a wave as she loves watching them.
Had communal bins at our old apartment, the bin area was always full of TVs, mattresses etc that the bin men wouldn't touch.
I don't blame the lads and girls who do the job, they are brilliant, but it's the rules and cuts which are the problem.
We are now on 120 litre grey bins on a fortnightly collection.
Bloke I know is a bin man and he's told me about how the council get fined etc if they drop stuff off at the recycling centre which shouldn't be in the bins.
In the US they just drive by your bin and a hydraulic arm reaches out to your bin, grabs it, lifts it up and dumps the rubbish in then places it back exactly where it found it. It's quite something
It doesn't always go to plan...
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our lot have a tendency to put more rubbish on the street than in the back of their truck!
Here's my little bin man rantette...
In our area they don't give out wheelie bins - people just leave a bag of rubbish on the pavement and the bin men come along with their own bin, chuck the bag in, and carry on. This then gets tipped into the truck.
It's an area of lonely old people who make about one tiny bag of rubbish a week.
My wasteful, nappy bagging family have our OWN wheelie bin, just like the bin men. But they still won't take that, instead they grab teh bags out of my bin, fill theirs, and then tip THAT bin.
As such, there's a collection of 'stuff' at the bottom of my bin that, frankly, disgusts me, because it never gets tipped....
What would Jesus do?
DrP
As such, there's a collection of 'stuff' at the bottom of my bin that, frankly, disgusts me, because it never gets tipped....
Do you not have a fella who comes around and cleans your bins once a month?
Mine is great, £7 for all 3 wheelie bins and leaves a lovely smelling disinfectant in them afterwards.
Do you not have a fella who comes around and cleans your bins once a month?
No....
Off to google local bin cleaning services.com
DrP
Do you not have a hose and a bottle of bleach?
Do you not have a hose and a bottle of bleach?
I do. You want to borrow them?
DrP
As for doing their job to see how it feels.
Well, no. They get paid around 30k (where I live) to do their job and they should do it properly.
I'm sure it's so much more stressful than being a nurse or a fire fighter.
you can get massive bags for lining wheelie bins - I bet great for bivvying too, if you're of that persuasion (maybe use for bivvying [i]BEFORE [/i]lining the wheelie bin)
[I]Do you not have a fella who comes around and cleans your bins once a month?
Mine is great, £7 for all 3 wheelie bins and leaves a lovely smelling disinfectant in them afterwards.
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See, now, this is something I just don't get. Why does anyone need the inside of their wheelie bin to be clean? It's a bin, it's where dirty things go.
*gives DrP kudos for having a wheelie bin and some bleach*
Reported for online bullying...
DrP
seems a reasonable excuse for posting this again:
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See, now, this is something I just don't get. Why does anyone need the inside of their wheelie bin to be clean? It's a bin, it's where dirty things go
+! it stays outside you only ever put waste in it of course its going to smell
What would Jesus do?DrP
Use washable nappies, recycle more, generate less waste and preach to others whilst saving their souls
and you call yourself a healer.
Use washable nappies
Actually more wasteful, I believe (or I choose to believe, maybe..)
recycle more
We recycle all we can...
generate less waste
Agreed - need to aim for this...
preach to others whilst saving their souls
Every saturday afternoon, just outside the bandstand, on my soapbox..that's me that is...
DrP
Locally, Calderdale council are doing a really good job. They've just increased the range of recycling options and now have some fancy new hybrid-diesel trucks to collect the stuff. The staff seem cheery enough and they work hard.
The other week they failed to turn up on Tuesday, then Weds etc etc. Saturday morning they came round apologising for being delayed due to local road closures, trucks breaking down and so on, and then collected the stuff they were supposed to collect earlier that week. It's hard to find fault in that level of service when most of it was out of their control.
30K for a binman ?no wonder council tax is high
Here in north Sweden the bins are collected once a fortnight. You are charged around 8 quid per collection, and if you need more collected you are charged for the extra. The Idea is of course to encourage recycling. 95% of glass getting recycled, 85% of newspapers, 70% of metal and 65% of plastic.
I wonder what the correlation is of those complaining about fortnightly collections and voting for brexit 🙂
Edric 64 - Member30K for a binman ?no wonder council tax is high
Stressful job apparently
they are so busy and so pushed to finish that they have to run/jog/trot to keep up with the truck so they drop the bins where they finish
You've obviously never watched the bin men in south Devon then. I can assure you those beys is in no hurry 😀
They get paid around 30k
*applies for bin man job where on_and_on lives
they are so busy and so pushed to finish that they have to run/jog/trot to keep up with the truck so they drop the bins where they finish
IIRC, that's because of Job & Knock not because they have performance targets
Hoole chester long narrow streets of terraced houses, black bags left in huge piles at end of entries, one driver.collection operative to move about 200 bags along street, me stuck behind screaming idiot in bmw,who couldnt get past, after watching bin man/driver loading binbags into back of crusher, i got out of van and started helping them, they where so surprised, said many thanks and moved a hundred yards up road, stopped and repeated the same,bmw driver just sat there fuming after i suggested he help out.
you dont realise how heavy stuff is in bin bags, and some burst, and some have liquids in, by the stuff leaking from back of bin truck, huge respect to them.
There's 2 of us in our household and we struggle to even half fill a plastic bin bag a week, often we'll go 2 weeks between putting out refuse. We fill our green box though with glass, paper and metals every week. I don't understand quite how some people produce so much refuse.
Although from experience at work where we have a rubbish bin, a recycling bin and white/ coloured paper recycling - being generous, about 75% of people here can't work out what goes in which bin...
Only problem I have is that when our recycling bin is slightly overflowing they wont take it but they take the 8 bin bags of mostly recyclable waste from next door in the non recyclable collection. We had 0.5-1 bin bag per week as a couple a 1-2 now we have a baby.
You've obviously never watched the bin men in south Devon then. I can assure you those beys is in no hurry
I have and the ruralness meant they were in no real rush nor much pressure.
Harbertonford and Cornworthy FWIW
I did a summer on the bins between travels. Hard work, round here there are no limits to bags put out. 6am start lifting 12 - 15t of horrible crap in searing heat, mainly running. Some crews were great, some were nasty. Same went for public, some had tea out every week, some would shout at you if their new empty black bags were not in the exact place. One lady asked us not to reverse into her vile cul-de-sac as the truck 'smelt'.
On the whole the career men were pretty depressed and agency staff pretty useless. If you have a complaint, do it via your refuse office at the local council, it will likely get dealt with (it does here) failing that, spend your free time getting worked up about something a bit more important.
There's 2 of us in our household and we struggle to even half fill a plastic bin bag a week, often we'll go 2 weeks between putting out refuse. We fill our green box though with glass, paper and metals every week. I don't understand quite how some people produce so much refuse.
Same here, when people get up in arms about their bins only being emptied every couple of weeks I can't really see why they care.
I can see it might be different if you have kids though.
Surprised no none has said it.........
It's a rubbish job really......
IGMC
I can see it might be different if you have kids though.
THIS.
All the 'art and craft' they bring home from school has to go somewhere....
DrP
Here in north Sweden
Cool place reference dude !!
I wonder what the correlation is of those complaining about fortnightly collections and voting for brexit
Why dont you research it, something to do on those long dark nights.
Otherwise they'll walk back to the wagon, get a tag, walk back to the bin, place tag on hinge of bin that states either "overfilled" or "wrong items in bin" or "wrong plastics in bin" etc.
Luxury!
Around here and at previous address they simply refuse to empty bins that contain alien objects.
I mentioned to a binman that rather than leaving the un-emptied bin that it might be a good idea to leave a note for the houeholder to explain why. Fairplay to the guy, he left a little note.
My heart felt warm anyway.
Locally, Calderdale council are doing a really good job.
hmmmmm, have to say the bin man that does mine is a grumpy ****er, and has a bit of a "jobs worth" attitude. I live alone and struggle to fill a bin, but leaves me 15-20 black bin bags every week. He had a right strop when I tried to give them back and put them straight into the bin...
Family of four here. Half fill our rubbish bin for its fortnightly collection.
Put out 6-7 bags of recycling every two weeks. And we are by no means fanatical about recycling every possible item.
they are so busy and so pushed to finish [list]by 9.15am[/list] that they have to run/jog/trot to keep up with the truck so they drop the bins where they finish
FTFY but ours are all sat in the caff eating bacon sarnies by 9.30
Family of four here. Half fill our rubbish bin for its fortnightly collection.Put out 6-7 bags of recycling every two weeks. And we are by no means fanatical about recycling every possible item.
Not dissimilar here.
Two in the house, weekly collections alternate between rubbish and recycling (so each fortnightly). We've a full sized wheelie bin for crap, a 'blue box' for crap and two large sacks for paper and plastics.
On a collection, the recycling is full. The rubbish is barely half full.
Nothing against the bin men but where we live, the council send them out during rush hour, completely blocking up the narrow streets round here. And yes I have watched them do their job on many occasions whilst been stuck behind them while trying to get to work, and they walk very slowly, they don't trot around in a hurry like Junkyard's bin men do.
Where do you earn 30k as a bin person?! Ours are pretty good and take everything I put in whether bagged or not. Occasionally put my bin back next door but that's hardly a big deal. We get weekly bins and fortnightly recycling but I'd rather it was the other way round.
I was a binman for two summers and it was one of my favourite jobs. Any moany faced grey tops got their bins put back miles away on purpose. We ran the rounds so we could finish by 11am.
One person used to have a single carrier bag in their bin most weeks. I'd reach in to grab the bag and run to the next bin so the truck could make fewer stops, but they wanted their bin PUT ON THE TRUCK! They'd deliberately also put a bottle top or piece of paper in there so they could complain about their bin not being emptied properly.
I know their bin got eaten by the truck at least twice...I'm sure that did nothing to lower their stress levels!
As long as my bin's within sight I'll not be losing sleep. Who cares if it's put back where you left it? It's an arbitrarily-selected point on the pavement.
some councils in manchester and north wales are now going to 3 weekly collections of rubbish
Junkyard - lazarushave any of you ever tried this job?
Sort of..
I did for two weeks, years back, I was working as a parkie for a local council and was asked to cover for two weeks on the bins.
Wages started at £7.00ph! The gang I worked with pretty much had to jog the whole shift, the abuse they had to put up with from drivers was unelivable! Good team spirit and the driver said the job was easier now that there was no splitting black bags to shift anymore.
I just remember been covered in dust stuck to my sweaty neck and back and painful feet that stopped me sleeping at night!
Going back to digging 8hrs in the park was a doddle in comparison, top respect to our binmen out there.
Every Monday we get our recycling collected and the recycling box thrown on to the drive adding another crack (to the box not the drive) and means when one of us comes home we have to leave the car in the road and get out to move the box before pulling on the drive.
Every other Monday they also collect our green waste. This entails emptying 1/3 in the lorry, 1/3 on the road, and leaving 1/3 in the bag so there is something to spill out when it is thrown back on the drive (also see above).
Every other Monday when they are not collecting the green waste they empty the big black smelly bin of nappies. This they usually manage ok as the contents are contained within a few black bin bags so more effort for them to scatter across the road. Also the big bin seen a little too heavy for then to manage to throw back on the drive. So it's left on the pavement, often obscuring access to the drive.
And don't get me started on going to the [s]tip[/s] waste recycling center 👿
The best thing in the world to my 2 1/2 year old is a road sweeper, followed closely by the bin Lorry. Great lads around here and deserve every penny.
They quite often have two jobs, cos theyte paid piss all and They rush because they're on ' job and knock', a highly questionable practice the unions choose to protect, so they can get to their second jobs as taxi drivers/ delivered very drivers etc. Two people from companies I've worked for are dead as a result of this practice. We don't value these people and the service they do all of us and the bin men don't decide collection regimes and a 180/240l fortnightly residual collection is plenty for a family of four, assuming you're not a grotesquely wasteful, idle get.
£30k? Possibly, pulling some serious overtime, about 8-9/hr for a loader 10-12 for a driver (paid per shift so 8x hourly typically) a lot are agency so get **** all in terms of pensions etc too
Interesting that you'll call out the union rather than the employer that offers terrible conditions.
The market innit. They get paid what the contractor bid for in 2008 (pre austerity) - 20%. A lot of collection contracts are making big losses hence a lot of consolidation and joint procurement exercises between councils. Most of the permanent staff are tuped so not being paid any less than they would be as a public sector employee, but will have squeezed in other ways. The contractors got to deliver a universal service for not a lot of money when you look at at what's involved. Not a defending emoyers particularly more we just don't recognise the work of public utilities (which this should be) we'd give up the protection from infectious disease and resource depletion before we surrendered our cars iPads etc.
Also the convenor and safety rep are usually long term employees so the current way of working is often what suits them and they're used to, they'll have spent years getting it to that point, its not a conspiracy people just resist change cos they've got their own view on it
Clackmannanshire has gone to 3 week bin collections...they seem to do a great job, but suspect the 3 week gap will cause issues.
Stirling appears to be good as well, but where I am apparently the streets are too narrow to get the recycling truck down, so they only recycle paper (the wee mini-artic trucks; ignoring the removal and delivery trucks that do fit down these streets daily!). We go to the tip with our recycling when the car is full, so it isn't just thrown away in landfill.