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In the light of recent showbiz fatalities , what would be the movie you urge your kids to watch to steer them away from the dreaded Class A's.?
Requiem for a dream for me followed by The Basketball Diaries and Trainspotting.
When they're old enough I'll just tell then a few tales from work, should do the job.
trainspotting
requiem for a dream
that is all
Requiem for a Dream is a film I'd recommend people watch, but not one I'd want to watch again.
Sid and Nancy
Yup Requiem is fairly brutal and Trainspotting IMO seems to almost makes skag appear to be kinda cool which It aint. That said Irvine Welsh's books are brilliant at high lighting the good and bad of a High life.
Not sure any film would steer you clear of drugs IME.
Spun is worth a viewing though
Easy Rider.
Requiem for a dream, a grim tale.
Human Traffic is a great film. However, unlikely to achieve the results you're looking for 😛
It's not the drugs killing people by the way, it's the celebrity they crave. Warn the kids off that, maaaan.
I know the title says drugs, but if count alcohol in that, then maybe take a look at 'rain in my heart' you'll find it on YouTube in chunks
Leaving las Vegas has Nicholas Cage drinking himself to death. Could backfire if your kids see that as a positive positive though 😉
Before a sixth form field trip to Morocco many many years ago we were sat down and made to watch Midnight Express.
requiem for a dream is possibly the only film that doesn't glamorise drug use it also makes me fear getting old
Amy winehouse was killed by drink a socially acceptable drug that doesn't attract the same kind of cautionary tale
Bad Lieutenant -put you off most things
Christiane F.
Agree with the comments on Trainspotting as well. The book seems to do a lot better job of showing both sides than the film
Drugstore cowboy? -but maybe matt dillon is to hot in it!
i Was going to say Christiane f as well.
Christiane F
+1 but I only read the book - that was quite enough
Maybe a film isn't the best way. Maybe take them to meet actual drug addicts? Would that not be more effective if it is in any way practical?
In the light of recent showbiz fatalities , what would be the movie you urge your kids to watch to steer them away from the dreaded Class A's.?
I think if I wanted to warn my (hypothetical) kids off Whitney Houston's fate, I'd be putting Spinal Tap or CB4 on. Possibly Sid and Nancy or Kurt and Courtney.
(By the way, if it's true that Houston died by drowning after ingesting Xanax and alcohol, you'd be wanting to steer the kids away from Class C and unclassified drugs).
The more you try to steer them away from drugs, the more likely they will want to satisfy their curiosity...
So perhaps an educatation into what they are, and how they aren't really all they're cracked up to be?
Probably best just side stepping the films altogether and just show them a slideshow of celebrity corpses explaining what killed them, or a before and after.
Just sit them down and make them watch the video for comfortably numb on loop for an hour or so...
Steering them with a Hollywood film will do nothing.
Giving your kids accurate information about drugs will help them make the decision themselves, and if they do choose to take drugs at some point, the education you have given them might just be enough to save their life.
At my school they told me that taking just one ecstasy tablet would probably kill me. Once I had established that wasn't true, the world was my oyster. I had absolutely NO other knowledge about drugs other than that they are "bad for you".
Someone should have sat us down and told us the real consequences of drugs, how to mitigate the biggest risks, how to avoid ending up killing yourself and when to identify that you might need help (whether immediate or long term).
I'd start with a good education the dangers of the worst and most harmful drug of all (also the one your kids are most likely to **** up their life with)....booze.
I'd show them a pic of whatsername's nose - you know, the one who used to be in 'Enders and rotted her septum away with too much nosebag.
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Peterfile is pretty much bang on there. Drugs are bad. Just say no kids! What a devastatingly effective message that's proved to be
Tell them if they're going to take drugs, at least do it in a [relatively] safe environment.
i.e. don't go double-dropping, while out on your own, in a foreign country.
Before you know it, they'll be all grown up, off to University (if they choose) and popping pills every weekend for a few years. Then they'll grow out of it.
Showbiz fatalities? I can only think of two recent high profile ones; Amy Whinehouse and Whitney Houston*.
I've not seen anything that confirms the cause of Whitney Houston's death yet but Amy Winehouse's premature death was alcohol related and not class A drugs. Alcohol is easier to get hold of, just as deadly and socially acceptable. But then everyone likes a drink and saying otherwise makes you a bit of a party pooper.
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There may be others that I've missed as it's not really an aspect of the news that i follow.
Before you know it, they'll be all grown up, off to University (if they choose) and popping pills every weekend for a few years. Then they'll grow out of it.
As a side point, given the "weekend" focus of recreational Class A drug use, I'd say that you're FAR more likely to end up missing university lectures as a result of a hangover than a comedown.
I don't remember many midweek drug nights, but I can recall plenty of boozy ones which led to me lying in my bed all day 🙂
An interesting strategy, when I was about 13/14 yrs old my mum gave me a Ducados cigarette because my father, a smoker, couldn't handle them. I smoked for about 20 years before giving up.
I'm just saying that what might seem like a good strategy to you might just backfire.
When I was a youth the main reason I didn't try anything stronger than cannabis was the fact that I could have no idea what was in what I could potentially buy. I'd certainly have had no problem trying ecstasy though the effects of speed or cocain didn't really appeal.
When I was a youth the main reason I didn't try anything stronger than cannabis was the fact that I could have no idea what was in what I could potentially buy
Absolutely. Which is why I think it's important to give young people the tools to make taking drugs as safe as possible.
To use your example, EZ Test kits are widely available, cheap and completely legal. They will quickly tell you if your pill contains what it's supposed to. A drawback is that it WON'T detect something sinister in there, but experience and research suggests that such pills are rare anyway, you're far more likely to buy something which is a substitute. A test kit will tell you whether you've bought an authentic pill. The simple fact is that pill manufacturers DO NOT go to the effort of making a pill containing MDMA and then stick something dangerous in it. It's urban myth and scaremongering. The same way that NO PILL contains heroin. Look at the oral dose one would require for your body to even register the presence of heroin, and then look at the size/weight/cost of a pressed pill. It's a complete fabrication to scare people away from ecstasy.
There is also a very useful website called Pillreports, which details full reports of pills tested from all over the world. Sure, you can't guarantee that one which looks like the one you have bought is the same as the "safe" one you are looking at a review for, but like I said, it's all about providing people with the education and resources to mitigate the dangers as far as possible.
People will not stop taking drugs simply as a result of someone saying "you shouldn't do this".
Educate people, reduce harm and risk, provide proper help and information. It's not rocket science and it's a heck of a lot cheaper than waging a "war" on recreational drug users.
I always feel sorry for the poor sods rotting away in some third world prison being gang raped just so someone in this country can have a bangin weekend man.
I always feel sorry for the poor sods rotting away in some third world prison being gang raped just so someone in this country can have a bangin weekend man.
Again, education.
Show people the effect that cocaine use in Britain has on people caught up in the trade in Colombia etc.
At the moment, it's like buying beef from a supermarket, people are separated from how it ends up on their table. We like to gloss over anything horrible in this country.
Show people factual evidence and let them make their own choices.
Teach them how to take drugs responsibly if they are going take anything. Most people who take drugs do.
So perhaps an educatation into what they are, and how they aren't really all they're cracked up to be?
Problem with that is that its not true. Drugs can be fantastic as well as dangerous. If you are going to educate you need to tell the truth.
I always feel sorry for the poor sods rotting away in some third world prison being gang raped just so someone in this country can have a bangin weekend man.
I agree with your sentiment (broadly speaking). Cocaine and heroin are obviously reliant on third world inputs but cannabis and MDMA etc are increasingly made in the EU (by gangsters).
To be fair I wouldn't be a hypocrite and deny taking drugs as I was off my tits from the age of 19 to 25. As you say education is the key and If they are to experiment you would hope they will doing backed up with the info they need.
I used to be a youth worker, I used the educational dvd of Rick Kirkham TV junkie its really really good.
Before a sixth form field trip to Morocco many many years ago we were sat down and made to watch Midnight Express.
That is a stroke of absolute genius!
Cheech and Chong surely? Lays bare the inane tedium of being stoned. Easy Rider also does a pretty good job.
I thought Traffic was a great anti-drugs movie.
or rather it showed the futility of the US war on drugs policies....
A certain person who I used to..er... do business with tested everything which he...er.. sold on. Safety of his 'clients' was important, and he felt it was his responsibility to help them. Top bloke!
Trainspotting. Those that say it glamourises drug use. Did we watch the same film? Tommy getting ruined and then dying, Spud lying in a gutter unable to speak, dead babies, severe withdrawal. What it does is paint a real picture. Drugs always give before they start to take.
Agree with Requiem for a dream.
Casino. Anyone who can watch Sharon Stones decline into drink and drugs, and not be at least a little put off is doing well.
The Basketball Diaries and Boogie Nights! Selling your body for lines is pretty grim for anyone.
Midnight Cowboy and Panic in Needle Park are also amazing films. Not just for the anti-drug message.
I would suspect that teaching moderation is the most important thing..
I've been to a few funerals that were a result of heroin overdose.. and a few more that could be directly linked to drug abuse.. not least my own fathers..
From my own experiences I personally would advocate moderation rather than trying to preach strict prohibition..
My movie recommendation for your purposes would be Ken Loach's Sweet Sixteen..
and Shane Meadows 'Dead Mans Shoes'
Take drugs in front of your kids and show then how inane and boring someone is who takes drugs or gets pissed. Surely the repetitive drone and retarded dancing will be enough to put them off.
Surely the repetitive drone and retarded dancing will be enough to put them off
this seems to have worked extremely effectively in most of the kids I know born from the rave generation..
being able to speak authoritatively from first hand experience on the subject seems to be a very effective method in educating your kids about how overrated drugs are
being able to speak authoritatively from first hand experience on the subject seems to be a very effective method in educating your kids about how overrated drugs are
In what way is MDMA overrated?
Just curious as to how you would articulate that.
I agree that certain other drugs are most certainly overrated, but MDMA? Seriously?
are you saying its underrated?
In what way is MDMA overrated?
I think... sorry, what was the question again? 😈
[i]Traffic[/i] has a great soundtrack (Cliff Martinez - also responsible for much of [i]Drive[/i]). Great cast, too, especially Benicio del Toro's Mexican cop.
Best anti drugs movie? Does the Tour de France count? 🙂 Its boring every year, even with the copious substance abuse.
RfaD has already been said enough times, so The Hangover II...?
Requiem for a Dream - i've never seen anything so harrowing as the last 20 minutes of the film
Tough question - make it clear when they're 10 to 15 that drugs are bad and that being caught with drugs could ruin your life
Then, when they start bringing they're scroat friends around, keep an eye out for kids are shifty looking
99% of the people who i used to get mashed with didn't do any harm to themselves - a couple of show off dealers got caught, a kicking or ended up with a problem
MDMA is a fantastic drug - some of my best nights ever. Shrooms are awesome to. Not to many if your riding though!! 😀
However, if you really want to put them of drugs for life - take them past the local needle exchange in a poor part of town.
zippykona - MemberI always feel sorry for the poor sods rotting away in some third world prison being gang raped just so someone in this country can have a bangin weekend man.
Or alternativly if all ,rather than just some drugs were legal then this wouldn't happen.And money would be taken out of the hands of criminals,terrorists and gangsters throughout the world and those at the bottom of the drugs food chain would commit less ,maybe no crime to fund their habits.......
Nicely said Nick1962
Take your child from an early age and teach him to hate losers, chavs and poor people. Introduce him to alcoholic beggars and tell him/her this is how they'll end up if they take drugs. Say around the age of four..... instill in them a sense of disgust towards low achievers and druggies from an early age because this is the age when it will sink in and take hold in their conciousness. When they get to about 11 they wont listen to you.
Keep them busy and instill in them a dire fear of failiure and then have them doing work or extracuricular activities 6 days a week. Basically think like an Asian mom and only let up if they show signs of burnout.
If they disagree with you or don't do their work, stick to punishments instead of letting them off the hook. Pushups are great. Reward them when they do their work.
However give them space and treat them like adults. You are there to dish out the rewards or consequences for their actions in a structured framework of rules and boundries, not to try and control every aspect of their day. You know....slowly teaching them to be adults from early on. Let them choose what they want to do etc but make sure they are busy.
If you do that it wasn't your fault they do/did drugs. They can **** up their lives and when they finally realize it you should just be there to say I told you so and get them out of it. Teenagers don't listen.
boltonjon - have to agree with you on MDMA being one of the best! Again, most memorable enjoyable partying of my life with that.
Grange Hill when Zammo became a baghead, harrowing.
True - you never heard about anyone doing drugs in the 80s after that.
money would be taken out of the hands of criminals,terrorists and gangsters throughout the world
Well, some money would - there's still plenty of criminals, terrorists and gangsters involved in the tobacco and alcohol trades even though they're (mostly) legal.
