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Justice at last 😆
Wow
Dammit...got my numbers the wrong way round. I went for 18 months suspended.
I wonder what my old MP Jim Devine will get then? Hopefully this sets some sort of precedent.
I hope his cell mate doesn't find him attractive.
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Justice at last
You think so?
As he was a public figure in a position of great responsibility and public trust, they should have made an example of him!
3 years minimum in prison, so 6 years.
This may sound a bit harsh, but what the powers to be need to do is send a message out to the ordinary man, that they won't tolerate people in key positions behaving so dishonestly!
The way it comes across to me is that the prosecutor has handed down the minimum sentence he can because Chaytor is part of the establishment.
It stinks!
It would stink a lot more if he'd run over a cyclist in his car, he'd be back in Parliament by now with a slap on the wrist!
Justice at last
So after he stole £20k from the tax payer the tax payer now has to pay for him to be inprison too!!!!
18 months paid by himself would have been justice!!
mmmmm the great scent of poverty, and no lubricating properties
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So of the 100 or so MP's that were wetting their beaks, four get pulled up by the courts and the first and apparently most guilty gets a pretty lenient sentence, other three will probabaly walk without any time. The others get to pay back the money no questions asked and no action taken.
That's not justice in my eyes, crooked bastards.
Comapred to what we've seen in the past in the way of punishments, this is quite good. Bloody hell gang - the guy's a theif who was in public office but he don't deserve the gallows.
The tragedy in this is that there aren't more of his like behind bars repaying a debt to society.
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Think about it - 18 months in prison is quite sufficient. His career is over, and the opportunity for him to commit further crimes of the same nature is zero.
We've sacked people at work for fiddling their expenses, none of whom were reported to the police. When other public servants have been found guilty of similar offences (councillors mainly) they've had lighter sentences
http://www.northamptonchron.co.uk/news/local/councillor_sent_to_prison_for_fraud_1_891230
**** me, no wonder they don't allow the victim near the courts.
Think about your own life and the impact that an 18 month prison term would have on you. Its a life changing sentence, (deserved), but have sense of proportion people. No one died.
Spongebob - MemberJustice at last
You think so?
As he was a public figure in a position of great responsibility and public trust, they should have made an example of him!
3 years minimum in prison, so 6 years.
This may sound a bit harsh, but what the powers to be need to do is send a message out to the ordinary man, that they won't tolerate people in key positions behaving so dishonestly!
The way it comes across to me is that the prosecutor has handed down the minimum sentence he can because Chaytor is part of the establishment.
It stinks!
He was just an MP.........someone elected by his constituents to represent them in parliament - nothing more. You appear to have a very rosy picture of what a politician is Spongebob, but they just mere mortals like everyone else you know. There is nothing at all special about them - some are more honest than others, some are more generous than others, etc, etc, a bit like the rest of the population I suppose you could say. Of course we expect them to comply with the law of the land - just like we expect everyone else in society to do so. But don't place on some sort of pedestal ffs.
And you really think other MPs are now planning new ways of fiddling their expenses because Chaytor "only" lost his job, was forced to agree to pay back the £18350, and received an 18 months prison sentence ?
[i][b]"the prosecutor has handed down the minimum sentence he can because Chaytor is part of the establishment"[/b][/i]
Tell me Spongebob, because I am quite genuinely interested, do you [b][i]actually[/i][/b] believe that nonsense, or is it a case of you just can't help yourself ?
btw, although I'm no legal expert, I'm fairly certain that the prosecutor and the judge aren't the same person in this country...........maybe you're getting confused with "Spongebob's Utopian World" ? 💡
TBH, I think it's throwing good money after bad....
The average cost per prisoner place in 2008-2009 was £31,106
I would have thought that a heavy fine would have been a lot more appropriate. When you add up the cost of prosecuting him, plus cost of keeping him in prison, does it really serve the public to waste more money on this?
was forced to agree to pay back the £18350
People convicted of benefit fraud usually have to pay an extra 30% back on top of the sum fraudulently obtained, so that would have been fitting.
BTW, 18 months custodial sounds fair enough to me, he'll probably serve a maximum of 9 but more likely will be out before the middle of the year.
Seems a reasonable enough sentence. Anyone know what the average sort of sentence would be for a £20K fraud? I've known a couple of people who got done for fraud (branch-level bank staff) and neither was imprisoned, but I don't know how representative that is.
I don't approve of "making an example" personally, I think you punish everyone as befits their offence, no more or less.
A few easy months in an open prison where its BYOB and he can have the occasional BBQ.
I can't understand how his brief keeps on about how he would have been entitled to it and more if he had gone about it legally.
Its not a bit of extra bunce, but reimbursement for money you have actually paid out, so how could he ever have got anything for living in houses he and his family already owned
Somewhere up there it says that nobody died. I'm not so sure about that. The money that the MPs stole from us could have been spent on the NHS or decent body armour for our armed forces. The MPs may not have pulled the trigger, but they bought the bullets.