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Why TF is this being turned into an actual issue given all the real issues the UK is facing?
Listening to some politician earlier on R4 you would have thought that without these bells ringing then Brexit means nothing.
Bullshit of the highest order....
And screwed up thing is, this will become a burning issue for a certain group of little englanders.
Looking in from the outside, it really looks like the UK has lost the plot.
Dead cat on table
Nothing Brexit based suprises surely?
Jingoistic Bells, Jingoistic Bells.
I've never heard of this?
This to me is the equivalent of the orangemen marches in Northern Ireland, where the winners of something go & taunt the losers, way to bring the country together you thick ****s
It does nicely sum up how out-of-touch some politicians are, that they think it is well worth paying half a million quid to ring a bell that only those in the very centre of London will actually hear live anyway.
Dead cat on table
Quite possibly, yes.
Maybe the bells are "ding ding ding round 1" for the massive punch up as remainer protesters bump in to kippers?
Cardigan wearing ****s.
Anyone else got a nagging feeling they've forgotten something very important? I've got this dim recollection about some sort of...report? The words "Russian interference" keep popping into my head for some reason.
Probably nothing.
Anyway, about these bells...
martinhutch
Member
Jingoistic Bells, Jingoistic Bells.
Brilliant!
It isn’t they’ve made it clear it won’t happen it was a bunch of gammons who tried the raise £500k but managed £86
#remainerplot
And to make things even worse, faarange and his hateful cabal have secured public space to celebrate Brexit in Westminster.
The words “Russian interference” keep popping into my head for some reason.
I think it would be funnier if the Russians leak the report before boris can publish it
Great. Another Brexit thread for all the moaning windbags to complain about how a democratic vote was so unfair (twice)!
Great. Another Brexit thread for all the moaning windbags to complain about the moaning windbags to complain how a democratic vote was so unfair (twice)!
Great. Another Brexit thread for everyone who's concerned about the direction this country is taking to have their say
FIFY
Ahhh, thank you
Great. Another Brexit thread for all the moaning windbags to complain about how a democratic vote was so unfair (twice)!
First bells then a purge. It won't end.
gives you lot something to have a big old blub about & create another brexit thread though doesnt it.
Distracted the voters as they've quietly distanced themselves from various election pledges, the Russia report, various experts saying a deal can't be done by December....
Actually @trailwagger I think this is (or was) specifically complaining about Boris's "Bung a Bob for a Big Ben Bong" nonsense.
You can support Brexit and still think that raising £500k to hear a bell ring is a rather ridiculous thing to do.
I think it is a great idea. I really hope that 500k is raised, then passed to a deserving charity.
https://m.facebook.com/manbehavingdadly/photos/a.2238590419487001/2944156555597047/?type=3&source=48
not unfair, just a hilariously daft thing to do!
bell-end francois & all the nonsense around this are perfect examples of brexit
Just read the Go fund me thing & it finished with...
Yours faithfully,
Rebecca Ryan, founder of #StandUp4Brexit and Mark Francois MP
So it appears that Mark Francois MP is a character played by someone called Rebecca Ryan?
Actually @trailwagger I think this is (or was) specifically complaining about Boris’s “Bung a Bob for a Big Ben Bong” nonsense.
You can support Brexit and still think that raising £500k to hear a bell ring is a rather ridiculous thing to do.
No-one brought up the cost when it was rung on NYE, or armistice day or any of the other times. But suddenly now its an issue for the point scoring losers.
Compromise:
Use a recording rather than interrupt the ongoing repairs. Give everyone the day off to celebrate with a bank holiday instead. Landlords will be thankful for a January boost.
No-one brought up the cost when it was rung on NYE, or armistice day or any of the other times.
Perhaps, because at those times the project team had actually planned for the clapper to be present in the machine and wouldn't introduce a delay to the already expensive restoration?
I'd rather they spent the money on an MRI scanner or something equally useful.
NYE is celebrating something everyone likes
Brexit is something that at least half the country thinks is a ridiculous waste of time & money, that has already poisoned & divided the country & cost us £bns
us point scoring losers would rather not see the country damaged even more.
Perhaps, because at those times the project team had actually planned for the clapper to be present in the machine and wouldn’t introduce a delay to the already expensive restoration?
I’d rather they spent the money on an MRI scanner or something equally useful.
Actually I agree with you, its a huge waste of money. What annoys me is that no-one caused a fuss when it has been rung before. Its only now that Brexit is involved that people are jumping on a bandwagon and getting all up tight about the costs.
Its only now that Brexit is involved that people are jumping on a bandwagon and getting all up tight about the costs.
It's only now that an "extra" ring being added to a project plan costs money.
If they'd said (at the beginning of the restoration project) "we want to ring the bells on 31st January 2020" then it would have been built in to the project and they wouldn't have taken all the gubbins away after NYE...
NYE is celebrating something everyone likes
Controversial! 🙂
I think the problem is that Brexit has been such an expensive & divisive venture so far,
with the brexiteers orchestrating a relentless campaign of lies & BS, that us 'point scoring losers' will be pointing out the stupidities & saying 'I told you so' at each & every shambolic step for the next 10 years
No-one brought up the cost when it was rung on NYE
It was BORIS that specifically brought up the cost by coining his ridiculous "Bung a Bob" catchphrase: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51107646
Can we not just bung Boris at the bell?
NYE is celebrating something some people like
Brexit is something that less than half the country thinks is a ridiculous waste of time & money, that has already poisoned & divided the country & cost us £bns
FTFY
No one likes my compromise of us all taking the day off and going down the pub?
Anyway… it’s almost as if some people just want something to argue about…
https://twitter.com/haveigotnews/status/1217772009783988224?s=21
trailwagger
Member
NYE is celebrating something some people like
Brexit is something that less than half the country thinks is a ridiculous waste of time & money, that has already poisoned & divided the country & cost us £bnsFTFY
that may have been the case in June 2016, but as the recent GE showed the majority of the electorate want a 2nd ref or to remain
its why the brexiteers were so terrified of a 2nd ref
It does nicely sum up how out-of-touch some politicians are, that they think it is well worth paying half a million quid to ring a bell that only those in the very centre of London will actually hear live anyway.
Yeah they should get all the church bells ringing across the land just like VE day. Oh and beacons, everyone loves beacons.
And now it’s turning into a berxit thread. Stick with the discussion on the bells or it’ll be closed.
Wouldn't the sound of a Rolls Royce Merlin and the DAGGA-DAGGA-DAGGA of machine gun fire chasing Johnny Foreigner away be more acceptable?
I hope the tower falls down and squashes the lot of them as they party underneath it.
Half a million quid because Big Ben doesn't have a clapper?
I'm astounded that the brexiters can't lay their hands on some bell ends way more readily than that...
Half a million quid because Big Ben doesn’t have a clapper?
They've taken the entire belfry floor out, so, perhaps fittingly given the circumstances, there is nothing solid to support the entire enterprise.
The rest of the money would be eaten up by costly delays to existing projects...
It’s all just manufactured outrage…
https://twitter.com/gregdwordsmith/status/1217780020707500033?s=21
Johnson is PM, with a majority in the commons, and the upper house nodding through all his Brexit nonsense because of his fresh election mandate. But still “Remainers” are holding the UK back from a patriotic bong.
If a load of nobheads want to spend their own money to ring a bell to celebrate their nobheadery then meh!
1st Feb will still dawn, nothing will have been achieved, nothing will have changed. Brexit was stupid, is stupid and will continue to be stupid.
Let them have their moment if they want to pay for it. Nobheads.
a patriotic bong.
trailwagger
Member
What annoys me is that no-one caused a fuss when it has been rung before. Its only now that Brexit is involved that people are jumping on a bandwagon and getting all up tight about the costs.
You've managed to miss the point here despite it being explained pretty clearly. It doesn't cost half a million quid to ring big ben. It costs half a million quid (and a load of disruption) to get the currently partly disassembled big ben reassembled so that it can ring, and then immediately redisassemble it afterwards so that the refurbishment can continue. And much more so when it wasn't planned well in advance like new year's eve where it was part of the refurbishment plan.
If the bell was in working order this thread wouldn't be happening, but it ain't.
It's not for an event which unifies the country so, no, it shouldn't happen.
As for the cost and crowd funding to raise the funds, it's not a given.....'The PM's spokesman highlighted "potential difficulties" in using money raised from public donations'.
If some clowns want to pay for it out their own pockets then bash on. I'd resent 1p of it coming out my own taxes however
that may have been the case in June 2016, but as the recent GE showed the majority of the electorate want a 2nd ref or to remain
its why the brexiteers were so terrified of a 2nd ref
Are you even living in the same country as me? If what you said was the case then surely Labour would of won the GE?
I think its a great idea especially if the brexiteers fund it themselves as it will corral a decent amount of ****ing idiots in one place so they will be quite easy to pick off from a high vantage point.
Nope. The majority of votes cast was for a remain or 2nd ref party. But First Past The Post ignores that, and means you get a majority government with 43.6% of votes.
The Lib Dems and Labour combined got almost the same votes as the Tories, never mind the SNP, Plaid, etc.
that may have been the case in June 2016, but as the recent GE showed the majority of the electorate want a 2nd ref or to remain
its why the brexiteers were so terrified of a 2nd ref
Are you even living in the same country as me? If what you said was the case then surely Labour would of won the GE?
Most of the individual votes cast were for pro-remain, or pro-2nd ref parties, but of course, this didn't translate to a victory for such a party, due to first-past-the-post.
Edit: ECHO! Echo! echo...
I'm all for a chance for boris to demonstrate nationalism through a public show.
BREXIT day, isn't important enough to make it a Bank Holiday but bells that >1% will hear is important. Really!
So they want to waste a colossal amount of money to symbolise the wasting of a colossal amount of money? Makes perfect sense to me...
It isn’t they’ve made it clear it won’t happen it was a bunch of gammons who tried the raise £500k but managed £86
Give me £500, ear defenders, climbing gear and a hammer.
Are you even living in the same country as me? If what you said was the case then surely Labour would of won the GE?
Your failure to understand UK elections makes me think we might not be in the same country 😜
Give me £500, ear defenders, climbing gear and a hammer.
Right, that'll deal with that little fat ****er mark frenchy but what about the rest of them?
Lol
Two minute silence please. The fact that the most iconic time signature in the country is non-functional just serves to further impress the folly of the decision.
If what you said was the case then surely Labour would of won the GE?
Would have won.
I hope the tower falls down and squashes the lot of them as they party underneath it.
Nah, far too dramatic and martyr-ish.
I’d much rather it just pissed down, a hundred or so pillocks turn up and then jack it in after 45 mins, wandering off in little dribs and drabs looking like what they are - a joyless, bitter rabble looking for someone else to blame for their own underachievement.
I’d much rather it just pissed down, a hundred or so pillocks turn up and then jack it in after 45 mins, wandering off in little dribs and drabs looking like what they are – a joyless, bitter rabble looking for someone else to blame for their own underachievement.
So another march for brexit then?
So another march for brexit then?
Yep, a similarly underwhelming fail from failures. Fitting.
A view from a modern day Londoner…
Arron has chucked in £50k... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-51149531
What an altruistic soul. Maybe he could donate an equivalent amount to Shelter.
National healing my arse.
When is the publication date for that Russia report again?
Should be legally obliged to match any such donation with a contribution to a fund to be distributed to every one who voted remain and/or is UK citizen resident in EU to cover all incidental expenses (eg for resident/work permits, any licences or other documentation etc. needed by haulage firms) that will be incurred as a result of brexshit too.
If anyone can sort out a bong for Brexit
It's gotta be this guy
The EU have a Cultural Heritage Fund for this kind of thing we should apply there for the money.
Any chance of some ethical hacker grabbing the crowdfund cash and redistributing to a homeless charity or similar?
It would be better marked a by a few minutes of quiet contemplation of what has gone before and where we go next. Bit of reflection on how to handle this and maybe heal a few rifts. Jingoism isn't the way but he's playing to the massed Bori, I'd rather he wasn't turning Big Ben into a divisive devision bell.
I'm surprised he hasn't called for the clocks to be brought forward by and hour so be can prattle on about it being the start of a new day for Britain.
Don't worry chaps, Boris has conceded it's not going to happen.
INSTEAD they're going to use taxpayer's money for a fricking lightshow!
Oh, and the commerative coin that got minted previously, then melted down, will be minted again.
**** me, get me out of this dumb-**** shit-show of a country...
Oh, and the commerative coin that got minted previously, then melted down, will be minted again.
Could have cast them into the Brexit Bell.
Oh, and the commerative coin that got minted previously, then melted down, will be minted again.
The farce is strong with the Bori.
It’s all just bluff, bluster and manufactured outrage.
Bottom line is, was and always will be that Brexit is a stupid and damaging thing to do.
These quarterwits haven’t got a blind clue about what to do for the best of the majority of people in this country and they never did. Whether they actually care or not doesn’t really matter because on 1st Feb we start a race to the bottom.